Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.
Aslak Hellesoy wrote, On 02/04/2003 0.48: I just got an answer from Mark. So I guess it should be ok without further ado. Pleas let me know if it ain't. It seems just fine. Cheers, Aslak -Original Message- From: Mark Wutka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. april 2003 00:24 To: Aslak Hellesoy Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and LGPL libraries. Hi Aslak (and James), Sorry I have been so slow with this, but I just put out a DTDParser 1.21 that has a dual-license. You can either use the old LGPL license or an Apache-style license (pretty much cutpaste of the Apache license). Let me know if you have any questions, concerns or if I forgot something important. The only difference between 1.20 and 1.21 is the licensing change. Mark -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.
Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright holder he can explicitly address the issues that are of concern) Aslak Hellesøy wrote: Hi! As you might know, the XDoclet team is preparing for Jakarta membership (for XDoclet 2), and we're trying to sort out some political issues before we do so. (You can read about XDoclet 2 on TSS today). XDoclet 2 needs a DTD parser, and the only decent (actually great) DTD parser we have found is Mark Wutka's DTDParser (http://www.wutka.com/dtdparser.html). It's LGPL. I've heard that LGPL is a no-no for Jakarta projects. Would XDoclet's depending on Wutka's DTDParser (with its current license) rule out our possibilities for Jakarta membership? (As a side note, we're depending on a dozen Jakarta (commons) libraries). Cheers, Aslak - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.
Is this reply FAQ/Wiki'd somewhere? Seems to me to be a good set of questions to ask of an LGPL project to cause happiness all around. Assuming it's okay with the powers that be, boards/committees/usuals. Hen On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright holder he can explicitly address the issues that are of concern) Aslak Hellesøy wrote: Hi! As you might know, the XDoclet team is preparing for Jakarta membership (for XDoclet 2), and we're trying to sort out some political issues before we do so. (You can read about XDoclet 2 on TSS today). XDoclet 2 needs a DTD parser, and the only decent (actually great) DTD parser we have found is Mark Wutka's DTDParser (http://www.wutka.com/dtdparser.html). It's LGPL. I've heard that LGPL is a no-no for Jakarta projects. Would XDoclet's depending on Wutka's DTDParser (with its current license) rule out our possibilities for Jakarta membership? (As a side note, we're depending on a dozen Jakarta (commons) libraries). Cheers, Aslak - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright holder he can explicitly address the issues that are of concern) Andy, are you stating that in your legal opinion a verbal agreement superceedes a written license? How are your dicussions with Richard Stallman going? - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright holder he can explicitly address the issues that are of concern) Andy, are you stating that in your legal opinion a verbal agreement superceedes a written license? A verbal [email] agreement from the copyright owner? :) It would be so nice if something nice and simple could be used to stop LGPL pain. How are your dicussions with Richard Stallman going? How much are ringside tickets? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.
I just got an answer from Mark. So I guess it should be ok without further ado. Pleas let me know if it ain't. Cheers, Aslak -Original Message- From: Mark Wutka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. april 2003 00:24 To: Aslak Hellesoy Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and LGPL libraries. Hi Aslak (and James), Sorry I have been so slow with this, but I just put out a DTDParser 1.21 that has a dual-license. You can either use the old LGPL license or an Apache-style license (pretty much cutpaste of the Apache license). Let me know if you have any questions, concerns or if I forgot something important. The only difference between 1.20 and 1.21 is the licensing change. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.
Sam Ruby wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright holder he can explicitly address the issues that are of concern) Andy, are you stating that in your legal opinion a verbal agreement superceedes a written license? state did not intend verbal. I was intending this would be something similar to what the classpath folks do. (which extends the rights in the GPL) In any case, I took this information from a conversation with Brian B on the open licensing list. If this goes further, I'll look the up the email. I asked this question in regards to the Trove project and that was Brian's answer to me. How are your dicussions with Richard Stallman going? Good point. I'll write him real soon. Didn't get a reply from Eben M. I'll try the nice ways and networking first. -Andy - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
