Re: project ACE.

[sebb]

Just in case it is not obvious, I am -1 to the removal of the
.htaccess files under old retired TLPs UNLESS another way is found to
continue to redirect users.

Also, I feel a fundamental change such as this should be discussed in
a separate thread, rather than buried deep in an another thread about
project ACE.




On 14 February 2018 at 14:52, sebb  wrote:
> On 14 February 2018 at 12:55, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:07:56 +0100
>>> From: jan iversen 
>>> To: general@attic.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: project ACE.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 10:16, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to
>>>>
>>>>  svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX
>>>>
>>>>for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony
>>>>  jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>>
>>   Thanks.
>>
>>> Solely out of curiosity, do you know approx. how much space it will free ?
>>
>>
>>   Absolutely nothing :-) These projs only have
>>
>> /dist/XXX/.htaccess
>
> If this is removed, I think it should be replaced with a redirect to
> the archives.
>
>>   I just want to unclutter /dist/ ; and consequently, for instance :
>>
>> https://checker.apache.org/
>
> Surely you can check for .htaccess and ignore the folder accordingly?
>
>>> Jan i
>>
>>
>>   Thanks ; regards,
>>
>>
>>   HPP
>>
>>    _
>> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
>> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
>> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
>> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[sebb]

On 14 February 2018 at 12:55, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:07:56 +0100
>> From: jan iversen 
>> To: general@attic.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: project ACE.
>>
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 10:16, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
>
>
>>>If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to
>>>
>>>  svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX
>>>
>>>for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony
>>>  jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans
>>
>>
>>
>> +1
>
>
>   Thanks.
>
>> Solely out of curiosity, do you know approx. how much space it will free ?
>
>
>   Absolutely nothing :-) These projs only have
>
> /dist/XXX/.htaccess

If this is removed, I think it should be replaced with a redirect to
the archives.

>   I just want to unclutter /dist/ ; and consequently, for instance :
>
> https://checker.apache.org/

Surely you can check for .htaccess and ignore the folder accordingly?

>> Jan i
>
>
>   Thanks ; regards,
>
>
>   HPP
>
>    _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 12:07:56 +
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: project ACE.



 svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX

   for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony
 jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans



+1


  IF it is now (implicitly, by general consent) decided that attic'ed
tlp's are removed from www.apache.org/dist/ after 4 years,
  THEN
perhaps http://attic.apache.org/process.html
should say :

  1. ...
  2. ...
  3. ...
  4. www.apache.org/dist/${project}/ may be removed after 4 years.

  Groeten,

  HPP

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Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 13:07:56 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: project ACE.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 10:16, Henk P. Penning  wrote:



   If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to

 svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX

   for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony
 jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans



+1


  Thanks.


Solely out of curiosity, do you know approx. how much space it will free ?


  Absolutely nothing :-) These projs only have

/dist/XXX/.htaccess

  I just want to unclutter /dist/ ; and consequently, for instance :

https://checker.apache.org/


Jan i


  Thanks ; regards,

  HPP

   _
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Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[jan iversen]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 at 10:16, Henk P. Penning  wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Henk P. Penning wrote:
>
> >  I will "roll my own" if there is no wider interest ; that's ok.
>
> Here are the dates I gleaned from the attic pages :
>
>   moved to attic before 2014-02-14 ; 4 years ago :
>   2009-04-15 hivemind
>   2009-05-15 shale
>   2010-01-15 beehive
>   2010-06-15 ibatis
>   2010-12-15 excalibur
>   2011-11-15 harmony
>   2011-12-15 jakarta
>   2012-04-15 xml
>   2013-07-15 esme
>   2013-07-15 stdcxx
>   2013-07-15 xmlbeans
>
>   # keep 2014-05-15 click
>   # keep 2015-03-15 whirr
>   # keep 2015-04-15 lenya
>   # keep 2015-07-15 deltacloud
>   # keep 2015-07-15 directmemory
>   # keep 2015-11-15 shindig
>   # keep 2016-01-15 onami
>   # keep 2016-01-15 rave
>   # keep 2016-04-15 mrunit
>   # keep 2016-04-15 wookie
>   # keep 2016-05-15 continuum
>   # keep 2016-05-15 tuscany
>   # keep 2016-06-15 etch
>   # keep 2016-12-15 devicemap
>   # keep 2017-01-15 stratos
>   # keep 2017-03-15 abdera
>   # keep 2017-04-15 wink
>   # keep 2017-12-15 ace
>
>If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to
>
>  svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX
>
>for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony
>  jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans


+1

Solely out of curiosity, do you know approx. how much space it will free ?

Reds
Jan i

>
>
>Thanks, regards,
>
>HPP
>
>    _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/
>
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Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Henk P. Penning wrote:


 I will "roll my own" if there is no wider interest ; that's ok.


   Here are the dates I gleaned from the attic pages :

 moved to attic before 2014-02-14 ; 4 years ago :
 2009-04-15 hivemind
 2009-05-15 shale
 2010-01-15 beehive
 2010-06-15 ibatis
 2010-12-15 excalibur
 2011-11-15 harmony
 2011-12-15 jakarta
 2012-04-15 xml
 2013-07-15 esme
 2013-07-15 stdcxx
 2013-07-15 xmlbeans

 # keep 2014-05-15 click
 # keep 2015-03-15 whirr
 # keep 2015-04-15 lenya
 # keep 2015-07-15 deltacloud
 # keep 2015-07-15 directmemory
 # keep 2015-11-15 shindig
 # keep 2016-01-15 onami
 # keep 2016-01-15 rave
 # keep 2016-04-15 mrunit
 # keep 2016-04-15 wookie
 # keep 2016-05-15 continuum
 # keep 2016-05-15 tuscany
 # keep 2016-06-15 etch
 # keep 2016-12-15 devicemap
 # keep 2017-01-15 stratos
 # keep 2017-03-15 abdera
 # keep 2017-04-15 wink
 # keep 2017-12-15 ace

  If there are no objections, I'll ask infra to

svn rm https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/XXX

  for XXX = hivemind shale beehive ibatis excalibur harmony
jakarta xml esme stdcxx xmlbeans

  Thanks, regards,

  HPP

   _
Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:59:17 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: project ACE.



I am unhappy about yet another manual step to the retirement process. the
process alreday contain quite a number of steps that could/should be
automated
, like e.x:
- update authorization files
- find maillists, wiki etc in order to tell infra what to close down


  Agree ; but ..., automating that stuff could/should be based
  on authorative, machine-readable info provided by attic.a.o/ ...
  PMC Attic is the only body that can say /when/ the move
  is/was actually started and when it was 'done'.
  I don't see how stuff can be automated reliably without
  such info.

  I just looked at the list again and it is enormous.
  A project should [IMHO] have a state {podling, tlp, attic}
  and graduation/attic-ing should be as easy as
  changing the state. Nevermind.


people wanting to know when a retirement happened can e.g. look at svn log
for the auth files.


  Hm ;

  I will "roll my own" if there is no wider interest ; that's ok.


jan i


  Thanks ; regards,

  Henk Penning

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Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[jan iversen]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 at 12:52, Henk P. Penning  wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> >>PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse
> >>
> >>  svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects
> >>
> >>stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
> >>is there a better way ?
> >
> > I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.
>
>I don't see a 'date' field in the xdocs files ;
>I really would like to have a list like
>
>  [ { dist_path : "beehive"
>, to_attic  : "2010-01-15"
>}
>  , ...
>  ]
>
>Because "moving stuff into the attic", is what PMC Attic does,
>it is fine to provide this info (authoratively) on attic.a.o/,
>rather than somewhere else.
>Other (automated) processes can fetch it from "attic.a.o/".
>
>It means (yet) another item in the "process" list ... ;
>is that a problem ? I will provide an initial file, of course.
>
> I am unhappy about yet another manual step to the retirement process. the
process alreday contain quite a number of steps that could/should be
automated
, like e.x:
- update authorization files
- find maillists, wiki etc in order to tell infra what to close down

people wanting to know when a retirement happened can e.g. look at svn log
for the auth files.

rgds
jan i

>Ideas ?
>
>Thanks ; regards,
>
>Henk Penning
>
>    _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/
>
-- 
Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.

Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:


Hi,


   PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse

 svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects

   stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
   is there a better way ?


I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.


  I don't see a 'date' field in the xdocs files ;
  I really would like to have a list like

[ { dist_path : "beehive"
  , to_attic  : "2010-01-15"
  }
, ...
]

  Because "moving stuff into the attic", is what PMC Attic does,
  it is fine to provide this info (authoratively) on attic.a.o/,
  rather than somewhere else.
  Other (automated) processes can fetch it from "attic.a.o/".

  It means (yet) another item in the "process" list ... ;
  is that a problem ? I will provide an initial file, of course.

  Ideas ?

  Thanks ; regards,

  Henk Penning

   _
Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[sebb]

On 6 February 2018 at 11:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:01:10 +0100
>> From: jan iversen 
>> To: general@attic.apache.org
>> Subject: project ACE.
>
>
> Hi Jan,
>
>> Project ACE is now finally retired
>
>
>> Sorry for the delay, but I am actually in bed with a severe cold (that
>> comes from living in southern Spain).
>
>
>   Please take a look (if you can :-) at
>
> https://checker.apache.org/
>
>   I've added some attic related info :
>
>   1. Under "other projects" : a RedStar flags an attic'ed project.
>
>  [ I think it looks a bit messy ; too much old stuff in /dist/ ;
>Shouldn't we remove /dist/atticked_project/ after
>some suitable interval ; 1, 2, 3 or 5 years ?
>  ]
>
>   2. under "attic'ed projects" : a RedStar flags a project
>  with more than 1 file.
>
>  -- 'ace' will become "unstarred" once INFRA-15994 is done
>  -- 'deltacloud' is todo, right ?
>  -- for project 'xml' I'll file a jira like :
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15994
>
>> jan I.
>
>
>   Groeten,
>
>   Henk Penning
>
>   PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse
>
> svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects
>
>   stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
>   is there a better way ?

The official list of current PMCs is in committee-info.txt

This is easier to read when parsed by Whimsy at

https://whimsy.apache.org/public/committee-info.json

You may need to match on mail_list rather the key,

>   HPP
>
>    _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[Mads Toftum]

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 01:26:15PM +0100, Henk P. Penning wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
> >I would opt for 5 years, but I would really like to hear other opinions.
> 
>   I vote for 3 years.
> 
Yeah, 3 years seem long enough.

vh

Mads Toftum
-- 
http://flickr.com/photos/q42/

Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 13:20:23 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: project ACE.

Hi again.

Could you possibly provide a clue to what is the problem with delta cloud,
just had a look on web site / comedy etc, and it seems ok ?


  ... clutter in /dist/deltacloud :

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/deltacloud/

  I'll file a jira, asking to replace dist/deltacloud/* by a .htaccess


jan I


  Groeten,

  HPP


On 6 February 2018 at 12:50, jan iversen  wrote:



On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:


On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:01:10 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: project ACE.


Hi Jan,


Project ACE is now finally retired



Sorry for the delay, but I am actually in bed with a severe cold (that
comes from living in southern Spain).


   Please take a look (if you can :-) at

 https://checker.apache.org/


llooks quite good, and is an excellent helper to check if something is
forgotten.


<https://checker.apache.org/>

   I've added some attic related info :

   1. Under "other projects" : a RedStar flags an attic'ed project.


that is usefull




  [ I think it looks a bit messy ; too much old stuff in /dist/ ;
Shouldn't we remove /dist/atticked_project/ after
some suitable interval ; 1, 2, 3 or 5 years ?
  ]


I would opt for 5 years, but I would really like to hear other opinions.




   2. under "attic'ed projects" : a RedStar flags a project
  with more than 1 file.


I do not understand what more than 1 file means,




  -- 'ace' will become "unstarred" once INFRA-15994 is done
  -- 'deltacloud' is todo,


right ?

it is now :-) I will check that later


  -- for project 'xml' I'll file a jira like :
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15994


yes please


<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15994>


jan I.


   Groeten,

   Henk Penning

   PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse

 svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects

   stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
   is there a better way ?


I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.

thanks for your help
rgds
jan i




   HPP

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Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/


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Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
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Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:50:09 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: project ACE.

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:


On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:01:10 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: project ACE.



  [ I think it looks a bit messy ; too much old stuff in /dist/ ;
Shouldn't we remove /dist/atticked_project/ after
some suitable interval ; 1, 2, 3 or 5 years ?
  ]


I would opt for 5 years, but I would really like to hear other opinions.


  I vote for 3 years.


   2. under "attic'ed projects" : a RedStar flags a project
  with more than 1 file.


I do not understand what more than 1 file means,


  An attic'ed project should have 1 file :

dist/PROJ/.htaccess


   PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse

 svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects



I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.


  Thanks ; I'll take a look ; I was hoping for a json :

[ { path : $path
  , date : ...
  , time : ...
  , ...
  }
, ...
]

  ... if it can be automated.


jan i


  Regards,

  HPP

   _
Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/

Re: project ACE.

[jan iversen]

Hi again.

Could you possibly provide a clue to what is the problem with delta cloud,
just had a look on web site / comedy etc, and it seems ok ?

rgds
jan I

On 6 February 2018 at 12:50, jan iversen  wrote:

>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
>>
>> > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:01:10 +0100
>> > From: jan iversen 
>> > To: general@attic.apache.org
>> > Subject: project ACE.
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>>
>> > Project ACE is now finally retired
>>
>> > Sorry for the delay, but I am actually in bed with a severe cold (that
>> > comes from living in southern Spain).
>>
>>Please take a look (if you can :-) at
>>
>>  https://checker.apache.org/
>
> llooks quite good, and is an excellent helper to check if something is
> forgotten.
>
>> 
>>
>>I've added some attic related info :
>>
>>1. Under "other projects" : a RedStar flags an attic'ed project.
>
> that is usefull
>
>>
>>
>>   [ I think it looks a bit messy ; too much old stuff in /dist/ ;
>> Shouldn't we remove /dist/atticked_project/ after
>> some suitable interval ; 1, 2, 3 or 5 years ?
>>   ]
>
> I would opt for 5 years, but I would really like to hear other opinions.
>
>>
>>
>>2. under "attic'ed projects" : a RedStar flags a project
>>   with more than 1 file.
>
> I do not understand what more than 1 file means,
>
>>
>>
>>   -- 'ace' will become "unstarred" once INFRA-15994 is done
>>   -- 'deltacloud' is todo,
>
> right ?
>
> it is now :-) I will check that later
>
>>   -- for project 'xml' I'll file a jira like :
>>  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15994
>
> yes please
>
>> 
>>
>> > jan I.
>>
>>Groeten,
>>
>>Henk Penning
>>
>>PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse
>>
>>  svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects
>>
>>stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
>>is there a better way ?
>
> I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.
>
> thanks for your help
> rgds
> jan i
>
>>
>>
>>HPP
>>
>>    _
>> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
>> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
>> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
>> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/
>>
> --
> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
>

Re: project ACE.

[jan iversen]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:01:10 +0100
> > From: jan iversen 
> > To: general@attic.apache.org
> > Subject: project ACE.
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> > Project ACE is now finally retired
>
> > Sorry for the delay, but I am actually in bed with a severe cold (that
> > comes from living in southern Spain).
>
>Please take a look (if you can :-) at
>
>  https://checker.apache.org/

llooks quite good, and is an excellent helper to check if something is
forgotten.

> 
>
>I've added some attic related info :
>
>1. Under "other projects" : a RedStar flags an attic'ed project.

that is usefull

>
>
>   [ I think it looks a bit messy ; too much old stuff in /dist/ ;
> Shouldn't we remove /dist/atticked_project/ after
> some suitable interval ; 1, 2, 3 or 5 years ?
>   ]

I would opt for 5 years, but I would really like to hear other opinions.

>
>
>2. under "attic'ed projects" : a RedStar flags a project
>   with more than 1 file.

I do not understand what more than 1 file means,

>
>
>   -- 'ace' will become "unstarred" once INFRA-15994 is done
>   -- 'deltacloud' is todo,

right ?

it is now :-) I will check that later

>   -- for project 'xml' I'll file a jira like :
>  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15994

yes please

> 
>
> > jan I.
>
>Groeten,
>
>Henk Penning
>
>PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse
>
>  svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects
>
>stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
>is there a better way ?

I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.

thanks for your help
rgds
jan i

>
>
>HPP
>
>    _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/
>
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Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:01:10 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: project ACE.


Hi Jan,


Project ACE is now finally retired



Sorry for the delay, but I am actually in bed with a severe cold (that
comes from living in southern Spain).


  Please take a look (if you can :-) at

https://checker.apache.org/

  I've added some attic related info :

  1. Under "other projects" : a RedStar flags an attic'ed project.

 [ I think it looks a bit messy ; too much old stuff in /dist/ ;
   Shouldn't we remove /dist/atticked_project/ after
   some suitable interval ; 1, 2, 3 or 5 years ?
 ]

  2. under "attic'ed projects" : a RedStar flags a project
 with more than 1 file.

 -- 'ace' will become "unstarred" once INFRA-15994 is done
 -- 'deltacloud' is todo, right ?
 -- for project 'xml' I'll file a jira like :
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-15994


jan I.


  Groeten,

  Henk Penning

  PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse

svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects

  stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
  is there a better way ?

  HPP

   _
Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/