Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

I kept messing that one up. Apologies.

> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> Correction. VP, Brand approved the name.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.
>> 
>> Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we 
>> painted this bike shed together :D
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 
>>>  for this name.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets 
 to the next round.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>> 
>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
>> ).
>> 
>> Would that work?
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache Avac ???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 There exists an outis open source project.
 
 Maybe we can riff on this name though.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> 
> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> 
> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> 
> Kenn
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer 
>  
> wrote:
> 
>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
 One
>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
 trademarks
>> or claims.
>> --Anu
>> 
>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- 
>> that no
>> one else has thought off.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>> 
>> Deep sigh.
>> 
>> OK.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>> around
>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
 
 Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
 
 I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
> 
> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>> 
>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>> that is
 rather unambiguous across languages.
>> 
>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with 
>> “RainBlock”?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache PawPaw
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>> wrote:
 
 Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>> with the
 fruit/veggie theme?
 
 Jackfruit
 Jambolan
 Jocote
 Kumquat
 KangKong
 Kabosu
 
 I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>> cava of
 vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>> seemed
 like a
 name you could use after Cava.
 
 Just brainstorming.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
 
 wrote:
 
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>> the

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Correction. VP, Brand approved the name.

Regards,
Dave

> On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:13 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.
> 
> Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we 
> painted this bike shed together :D
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 
>>  for this name.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets 
>>> to the next round.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
 On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 Any strong objections to Tuweni?
 
 
> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
> 
> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
> ).
> 
> Would that work?
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>> 
>> Apache Avac ???
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>> 
>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
 
 Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
 
 So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
 
 Kenn
 
 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
 
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer 
 >>> 
 wrote:
 
> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>> One
> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>> trademarks
> or claims.
> --Anu
> 
> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that 
> no
> one else has thought off.
> 
> 
> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
> Deep sigh.
> 
> OK.
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>> 
>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
> around
>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>> 
>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>> 
>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
 
 Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
> 
> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
> that is
>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
> 
> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Apache PawPaw
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
> with the
>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>> 
>>> Jackfruit
>>> Jambolan
>>> Jocote
>>> Kumquat
>>> KangKong
>>> Kabosu
>>> 
>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
> cava of
>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
> seemed
>>> like a
>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>> 
>>> Just brainstorming.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
> the
>>> cusp of
 graduation. :)
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> anto...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
> 
> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>> I am happy to approve the name in 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Legal has approved the name. We are a go with Apache Tuweni.

Thanks to all for helping figure this riddle out, and the many colors we 
painted this bike shed together :D

Antoine

> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 
>  for this name.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets 
>> to the next round.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
 
 On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
 https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
 ).
 
 Would that work?
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
> 
> Apache Avac ???
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  
> wrote:
> 
>> There exists an outis open source project.
>> 
>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>> 
>>> Kenn
>>> 
>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>> One
 (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>> trademarks
 or claims.
 --Anu
 
 Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that 
 no
 one else has thought off.
 
 
 On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
 
 Deep sigh.
 
 OK.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
 around
> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
> 
>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>> 
>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>> 
>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
 that is
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
 
 Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
 
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
 wrote:
> 
> Apache PawPaw
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
 wrote:
>> 
>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
 with the
>> fruit/veggie theme?
>> 
>> Jackfruit
>> Jambolan
>> Jocote
>> Kumquat
>> KangKong
>> Kabosu
>> 
>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
 cava of
>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
 seemed
>> like a
>> name you could use after Cava.
>> 
>> Just brainstorming.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
 the
>> cusp of
>>> graduation. :)
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
 anto...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
 
 All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
 the
>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
 Wars
>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>> likely to
>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

I have filed https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 
 for this name.


> On Mar 22, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> “Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to 
> the next round.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>>> 
>>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
>>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
>>> ).
>>> 
>>> Would that work?
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
 
 Apache Avac ???
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
> There exists an outis open source project.
> 
> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>> 
>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>> 
>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>> 
>> Kenn
>> 
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer > 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
> One
>>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
> trademarks
>>> or claims.
>>> --Anu
>>> 
>>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>>> one else has thought off.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Deep sigh.
>>> 
>>> OK.
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
 
 I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>>> around
 ethereum.  Maybe too close?
 
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
 
> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> 
> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> 
> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>>> that is
> rather unambiguous across languages.
>>> 
>>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>>> wrote:
 
 Apache PawPaw
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>>> wrote:
> 
> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>>> with the
> fruit/veggie theme?
> 
> Jackfruit
> Jambolan
> Jocote
> Kumquat
> KangKong
> Kabosu
> 
> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>>> cava of
> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>>> seemed
> like a
> name you could use after Cava.
> 
> Just brainstorming.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
> 
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>>> the
> cusp of
>> graduation. :)
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>>> anto...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
 I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>>> the
>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>>> Wars
>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> likely to
>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>>> different
> name.
>>> 
>>> We need to pick another name.
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>>> dave2w...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
 
 Hi -
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>>> anto...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

“Qui ne dit mot consent”. I haven’t heard anyone say no, so this name gets to 
the next round.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Any strong objections to Tuweni?
> 
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>> 
>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
>> ).
>> 
>> Would that work?
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache Avac ???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
 There exists an outis open source project.
 
 Maybe we can riff on this name though.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> 
> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> 
> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> 
> Kenn
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer  
> wrote:
> 
>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
 One
>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
 trademarks
>> or claims.
>> --Anu
>> 
>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>> one else has thought off.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>> 
>> Deep sigh.
>> 
>> OK.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>> around
>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
 
 Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
 
 I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
> 
> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>> 
>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>> that is
 rather unambiguous across languages.
>> 
>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache PawPaw
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>> wrote:
 
 Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>> with the
 fruit/veggie theme?
 
 Jackfruit
 Jambolan
 Jocote
 Kumquat
 KangKong
 Kabosu
 
 I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>> cava of
 vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>> seemed
 like a
 name you could use after Cava.
 
 Just brainstorming.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
 wrote:
 
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>> the
 cusp of
> graduation. :)
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
 wrote:
>> 
>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>> the
> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>> Wars
> references. The view of the community is that the community is
 likely to
> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>> different
 name.
>> 
>> We need to pick another name.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net>
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
 
 
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>> is
 either
> messed up or autocorrected.
> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Any strong objections to Tuweni?


> On Mar 21, 2019, at 12:04 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
> 
> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
> ).
> 
> Would that work?
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>> 
>> Apache Avac ???
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>>> There exists an outis open source project.
>>> 
>>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
 
 Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
 
 So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
 
 Kenn
 
 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
 
 On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >>> 
 wrote:
 
> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>>> One
> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>>> trademarks
> or claims.
> --Anu
> 
> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
> one else has thought off.
> 
> 
> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
>  Deep sigh.
> 
>  OK.
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>> 
>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
> around
>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>>> 
>>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>>> 
>>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>>> 
 On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
 
 Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
> 
> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
> that is
>>> rather unambiguous across languages.
> 
> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Apache PawPaw
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
> with the
>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>> 
>>> Jackfruit
>>> Jambolan
>>> Jocote
>>> Kumquat
>>> KangKong
>>> Kabosu
>>> 
>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
> cava of
>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
> seemed
>>> like a
>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>> 
>>> Just brainstorming.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
> the
>>> cusp of
 graduation. :)
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> anto...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
> 
> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
> the
 community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
> Wars
 references. The view of the community is that the community is
>>> likely to
 find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
> different
>>> name.
> 
> We need to pick another name.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
> dave2w...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> anto...@toulme.name>
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
> dave2w...@comcast.net>
 wrote:
 
 Hi -
 
 I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
> is
>>> either
 messed up or autocorrected.
 
 PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
 Establish
 whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
 
 Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

There is already a bistro project: https://facebook.github.io/bistro/

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> This deeply appeals to my French roots.
> 
> OK I’ll check we’re not infringing anything.
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> How about Apache Bistro:
>> 
>> o sounds like crypto
>> o Blockchain dISTRO
>> o distributed kinda means decentralized as well.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

This deeply appeals to my French roots.

OK I’ll check we’re not infringing anything.

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> How about Apache Bistro:
> 
>  o sounds like crypto
>  o Blockchain dISTRO
>  o distributed kinda means decentralized as well.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

How about Apache Bistro:

  o sounds like crypto
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately, InBlock LLC is a blockchain company.

> On Mar 21, 2019, at 4:54 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez 
>  wrote:
> 
> another suggestion from the back of the peanut gallery: Apache InBlock, so
> phonetically there's block and chain (and Apache :o))
> 
> best regards,
> juan pablo
> 
> 
> El jue., 21 mar. 2019 8:04, Antoine Toulme  escribió:
> 
>> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>> 
>> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <
>> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>> 
>> Would that work?
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache Avac ???
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 There exists an outis open source project.
 
 Maybe we can riff on this name though.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> 
> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> 
> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> 
> Kenn
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <
>> aengin...@hortonworks.com
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
 One
>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
 trademarks
>> or claims.
>> --Anu
>> 
>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that
>> no
>> one else has thought off.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>> 
>>  Deep sigh.
>> 
>>  OK.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>> around
>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme >> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
 
 Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
 
 I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
> 
> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>> 
>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>> that is
 rather unambiguous across languages.
>> 
>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache PawPaw
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>> wrote:
 
 Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>> with the
 fruit/veggie theme?
 
 Jackfruit
 Jambolan
 Jocote
 Kumquat
 KangKong
 Kabosu
 
 I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>> cava of
 vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>> seemed
 like a
 name you could use after Cava.
 
 Just brainstorming.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
 wrote:
 
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>> the
 cusp of
> graduation. :)
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
 wrote:
>> 
>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>> the
> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>> Wars
> references. The view of the community is that the community is
 likely to
> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>> different
 name.
>> 
>> We need to pick another name.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net>
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
 
 
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez]

another suggestion from the back of the peanut gallery: Apache InBlock, so
phonetically there's block and chain (and Apache :o))

best regards,
juan pablo


El jue., 21 mar. 2019 8:04, Antoine Toulme  escribió:

> I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.
>
> On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php <
> https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php>).
>
> Would that work?
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
> >
> > Apache Avac ???
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >
> >> There exists an outis open source project.
> >>
> >> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> >>>
> >>> Kenn
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> >>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer <
> aengin...@hortonworks.com
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
> >> One
>  (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
> >> trademarks
>  or claims.
>  --Anu
> 
>  Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that
> no
>  one else has thought off.
> 
> 
>  On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
>    Deep sigh.
> 
>    OK.
> 
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> >
> > I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>  around
> > ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme  >
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> >>
> >> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> >>
> >> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>  that is
> >> rather unambiguous across languages.
> 
>  Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> 
> 
> > On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Apache PawPaw
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>  with the
> >> fruit/veggie theme?
> >>
> >> Jackfruit
> >> Jambolan
> >> Jocote
> >> Kumquat
> >> KangKong
> >> Kabosu
> >>
> >> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>  cava of
> >> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> >> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>  seemed
> >> like a
> >> name you could use after Cava.
> >>
> >> Just brainstorming.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>  the
> >> cusp of
> >>> graduation. :)
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>  anto...@toulme.name>
> >> wrote:
> 
>  All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> > I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>  the
> >>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>  Wars
> >>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> >> likely to
> >>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>  different
> >> name.
> 
>  We need to pick another name.
> 
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>  dave2w...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>  anto...@toulme.name>
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>  dave2w...@comcast.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
> >>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>  is
> >> either
> >>> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>
> >>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> >>> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

I’m not sure about avac, doesn’t roll off the tongue.

On the theme of “no one”, I found Tuweni (from 
https://www.lakotadictionary.org/phpBB3/nldo.php 
).

Would that work?

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 12:02 PM, larry mccay  wrote:
> 
> Apache Avac ???
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> There exists an outis open source project.
>> 
>> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
>>> 
>>> Kenn
>>> 
>>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
>>> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer >> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
>> One
 (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
>> trademarks
 or claims.
 --Anu
 
 Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
 one else has thought off.
 
 
 On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
 
   Deep sigh.
 
   OK.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
 around
> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
> 
>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>> 
>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>> 
>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
 that is
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
 
 Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
 
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
 wrote:
> 
> Apache PawPaw
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
 wrote:
>> 
>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
 with the
>> fruit/veggie theme?
>> 
>> Jackfruit
>> Jambolan
>> Jocote
>> Kumquat
>> KangKong
>> Kabosu
>> 
>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
 cava of
>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
 seemed
>> like a
>> name you could use after Cava.
>> 
>> Just brainstorming.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
 the
>> cusp of
>>> graduation. :)
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
 anto...@toulme.name>
>> wrote:
 
 All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
 the
>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
 Wars
>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>> likely to
>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
 different
>> name.
 
 We need to pick another name.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
 dave2w...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
 anto...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
 dave2w...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
 is
>> either
>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>> 
>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> Establish
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>> 
>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>> expected
>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> 
> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
 autocorrecting it
>> to
>>> Obiwan … 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[larry mccay]

Apache Avac ???


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:57 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:

> There exists an outis open source project.
>
> Maybe we can riff on this name though.
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> >
> > Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> >
> > So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> >
> > Kenn
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No
> One
> >> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any
> trademarks
> >> or claims.
> >> --Anu
> >>
> >> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
> >> one else has thought off.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> >>
> >>Deep sigh.
> >>
> >>OK.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
> >> around
> >>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> 
>  Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> 
>  I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> 
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> >> wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
> >> that is
>  rather unambiguous across languages.
> >>
> >> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Apache PawPaw
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
> >> with the
>  fruit/veggie theme?
> 
>  Jackfruit
>  Jambolan
>  Jocote
>  Kumquat
>  KangKong
>  Kabosu
> 
>  I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
> >> cava of
>  vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
> >> seemed
>  like a
>  name you could use after Cava.
> 
>  Just brainstorming.
> 
>  Mike
> 
> 
> 
>  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>  wrote:
> 
> > What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
> >> the
>  cusp of
> > graduation. :)
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> >> anto...@toulme.name>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
> >> the
> > community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
> >> Wars
> > references. The view of the community is that the community is
>  likely to
> > find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
> >> different
>  name.
> >>
> >> We need to pick another name.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
> >> dave2w...@comcast.net>
>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
>  On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> >> anto...@toulme.name>
> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
> >> dave2w...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
> >> is
>  either
> > messed up or autocorrected.
> >
> > PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> > Establish
> > whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >
> > Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>  No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>>
> >>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>  expected
> > to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>>
> >>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
> >> autocorrecting it
>  to
> > Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >
> > Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
> >> 
>  wrote:
> >>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

There exists an outis open source project.

Maybe we can riff on this name though.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:39, Kenneth Knowles  wrote:
> 
> Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/
> 
> So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].
> 
> Kenn
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer 
> wrote:
> 
>> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No One
>> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any trademarks
>> or claims.
>> --Anu
>> 
>> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
>> one else has thought off.
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>> 
>>Deep sigh.
>> 
>>OK.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
>> around
>>> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
 
 Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
 
 I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
 
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
> 
> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>> 
>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
>> that is
 rather unambiguous across languages.
>> 
>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache PawPaw
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
>> wrote:
 
 Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
>> with the
 fruit/veggie theme?
 
 Jackfruit
 Jambolan
 Jocote
 Kumquat
 KangKong
 Kabosu
 
 I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
>> cava of
 vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
>> seemed
 like a
 name you could use after Cava.
 
 Just brainstorming.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
 wrote:
 
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
>> the
 cusp of
> graduation. :)
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
 wrote:
>> 
>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
>> the
> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
>> Wars
> references. The view of the community is that the community is
 likely to
> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
>> different
 name.
>> 
>> We need to pick another name.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net>
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
 
 
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
>> dave2w...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
>> is
 either
> messed up or autocorrected.
> 
> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> Establish
> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> 
> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
 No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>> 
>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
 expected
> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>> 
>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
>> autocorrecting it
 to
> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
> 
> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
>> 
 wrote:
>> 
>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
 anto...@toulme.name>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The ticket is now open:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kenneth Knowles]

Indeed, http://nemo.apache.org/

So I looked for similar ideas and came to Outis [2] via [1].

Kenn

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Nemo#Etymology
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outis

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:27 AM Anu Engineer 
wrote:

> At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No One
> (, to indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any trademarks
> or claims.
> --Anu
>
> Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no
> one else has thought off.
>
>
> On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>
> Deep sigh.
>
> OK.
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> >
> > I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code
> around
> > ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
> >>
> >> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
> >>
> >> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name
> that is
> >> rather unambiguous across languages.
> 
>  Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> 
> 
> > On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
> >
> > Apache PawPaw
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking
> with the
> >> fruit/veggie theme?
> >>
> >> Jackfruit
> >> Jambolan
> >> Jocote
> >> Kumquat
> >> KangKong
> >> Kabosu
> >>
> >> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena
> cava of
> >> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> >> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is
> seemed
> >> like a
> >> name you could use after Cava.
> >>
> >> Just brainstorming.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on
> the
> >> cusp of
> >>> graduation. :)
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> anto...@toulme.name>
> >> wrote:
> 
>  All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> > I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically,
> the
> >>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star
> Wars
> >>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
> >> likely to
> >>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a
> different
> >> name.
> 
>  We need to pick another name.
> 
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher <
> dave2w...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> anto...@toulme.name>
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher <
> dave2w...@comcast.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
> >>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something
> is
> >> either
> >>> messed up or autocorrected.
> >>>
> >>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>> Establish
> >>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >>>
> >>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> >> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >
> > Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
> >> expected
> >>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >
> > OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple
> autocorrecting it
> >> to
> >>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >>>
> >>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
>  On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski
> 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> 
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Anu Engineer]

At this point you should call it “Apache Nemo” or literally Apache No One (, to 
indicate we have no affiliations or does not violate any trademarks or claims.
--Anu

Just kidding, eventually I am sure you will find a good name, -- that no one 
else has thought off.


On 3/20/19, 10:51 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:

Deep sigh.

OK.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code around
> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme  
wrote:
> 
>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>> 
>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>> 
>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
 
 Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
 
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Apache PawPaw
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>> 
>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>> fruit/veggie theme?
>> 
>> Jackfruit
>> Jambolan
>> Jocote
>> Kumquat
>> KangKong
>> Kabosu
>> 
>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed
>> like a
>> name you could use after Cava.
>> 
>> Just brainstorming.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the
>> cusp of
>>> graduation. :)
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>> likely to
>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different
>> name.
 
 We need to pick another name.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is
>> either
>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>> 
>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> Establish
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>> 
>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>> expected
>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> 
> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it
>> to
>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>>> 
>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
 
 Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
> 
> The ticket is now open:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect, thank you.
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d...@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>> wrote:

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Deep sigh.

OK.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code around
> ethereum.  Maybe too close?
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>> 
>> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>> 
>> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
 
 Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
 
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Apache PawPaw
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>> 
>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>> fruit/veggie theme?
>> 
>> Jackfruit
>> Jambolan
>> Jocote
>> Kumquat
>> KangKong
>> Kabosu
>> 
>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed
>> like a
>> name you could use after Cava.
>> 
>> Just brainstorming.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the
>> cusp of
>>> graduation. :)
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is
>> likely to
>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different
>> name.
 
 We need to pick another name.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is
>> either
>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>> 
>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> Establish
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>> 
>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
>> expected
>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> 
> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it
>> to
>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>>> 
>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski 
>> wrote:
 
 Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
> 
> The ticket is now open:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
>> anto...@toulme.name>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect, thank you.
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d...@daniel.shahaf.name>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
 I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 What language should I use?
>>> 
>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>> .
>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>> .
>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>> d...@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
>> -0800:
>> I’ll open a pooling name 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Michael Wall]

I did find this, https://github.com/RainBlock.  Looks like code around
ethereum.  Maybe too close?

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:59 AM Antoine Toulme  wrote:

> Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.
>
> Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.
>
> I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.
>
> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > Personally, I'm fine w/ anything...
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is
> rather unambiguous across languages.
> >>
> >> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Apache PawPaw
> >>>
>  On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
>  Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>  fruit/veggie theme?
> 
>  Jackfruit
>  Jambolan
>  Jocote
>  Kumquat
>  KangKong
>  Kabosu
> 
>  I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>  vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed
> like a
>  name you could use after Cava.
> 
>  Just brainstorming.
> 
>  Mike
> 
> 
> 
>  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
> 
> > What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the
> cusp of
> > graduation. :)
> >
> >> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
> > community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
> > references. The view of the community is that the community is
> likely to
> > find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different
> name.
> >>
> >> We need to pick another name.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
>  On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is
> either
> > messed up or autocorrected.
> >
> > PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >Establish
> > whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> >
> > Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>  No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>>
> >>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I
> expected
> > to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>>
> >>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it
> to
> > Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >
> > Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme <
> anto...@toulme.name>
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The ticket is now open:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Antoine
> >>>
>  On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme <
> anto...@toulme.name>
> > wrote:
> 
>  Perfect, thank you.
> 
> > On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> d...@daniel.shahaf.name>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> >> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >> What language should I use?
> >
> > The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> > .
> > "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
> > Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> > .
> > with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> > d...@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08
> -0800:
>  I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and
> will
> > test the waters over there.
> >>>
> >>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the
> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Yes, you’ve been very flexible, thank you.

Anybody with strong opinions, please chime in.

I’ll start looking for marks around rainblock.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Personally, I'm fine w/ anything... 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is 
>> rather unambiguous across languages.
>> 
>> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apache PawPaw
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
 
 Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
 fruit/veggie theme?
 
 Jackfruit
 Jambolan
 Jocote
 Kumquat
 KangKong
 Kabosu
 
 I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
 vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
 name you could use after Cava.
 
 Just brainstorming.
 
 Mike
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
 
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
> graduation. :)
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>> 
>> We need to pick another name.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
 
 
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
> messed up or autocorrected.
> 
> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> 
> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
 No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>>> 
>>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>>> 
>>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
> 
> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The ticket is now open:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
 
 Perfect, thank you.
 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> What language should I use?
> 
> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> .
> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> .
> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
> d...@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
 I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
> test the waters over there.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

Personally, I'm fine w/ anything... 

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is rather 
> unambiguous across languages.
> 
> Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?
> 
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> Apache PawPaw
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>>> fruit/veggie theme?
>>> 
>>> Jackfruit
>>> Jambolan
>>> Jocote
>>> Kumquat
>>> KangKong
>>> Kabosu
>>> 
>>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
>>> name you could use after Cava.
>>> 
>>> Just brainstorming.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
 What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
 graduation. :)
 
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
 community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
 references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
 find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
> 
> We need to pick another name.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
 wrote:
 
 Hi -
 
 I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
 messed up or autocorrected.
 
 PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
 whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
 
 Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>> 
>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
 to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>> 
>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
 Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
 
 Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>> 
>> The ticket is now open:
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf 
 wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
 
 Thanks.
 
> What language should I use?
 
 The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
 .
 "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
 Obi-Wan Kenobi"
 .
 with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Daniel
 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
 d...@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
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 test the waters over there.
>> 
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Re: USPTO links (was: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name)

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 3/19/2019 8:32 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 2/28/19 7:58 PM:
> ...snip...
>> Note: From the USPTO TESS: "*BAVA*" is an Italian word that means
>> "slobber" or "drool".  Not sure if this will permalink:
>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4804:rx7o71.2.7
> No, most links from the USPTO website don't work, sadly.  I've updated
> the trademark docs to note the only reliable way to share a link there:
>
>   https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming#regsearch
>
> Click through to a specific trademark page, then click the TSDR blue
> button, which provides a stable URL, like this for sparkling wine:
>
> https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87442162=SERIAL_NO=statusSearch
Thanks.  Next time I'll do a PDF to at least try and capture the data.

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USPTO links (was: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name)

[Shane Curcuru]

Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 2/28/19 7:58 PM:
...snip...
> Note: From the USPTO TESS: "*BAVA*" is an Italian word that means
> "slobber" or "drool".  Not sure if this will permalink:
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4804:rx7o71.2.7

No, most links from the USPTO website don't work, sadly.  I've updated
the trademark docs to note the only reliable way to share a link there:

  https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming#regsearch

Click through to a specific trademark page, then click the TSDR blue
button, which provides a stable URL, like this for sparkling wine:

https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87442162=SERIAL_NO=statusSearch

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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

I think we will need a made up name, and we likely need a name that is rather 
unambiguous across languages.

Based on our previous proposals, would you be ok with “RainBlock”?


> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Apache PawPaw
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
>> 
>> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
>> fruit/veggie theme?
>> 
>> Jackfruit
>> Jambolan
>> Jocote
>> Kumquat
>> KangKong
>> Kabosu
>> 
>> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
>> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
>> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
>> name you could use after Cava.
>> 
>> Just brainstorming.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>>> graduation. :)
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
 
 We need to pick another name.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>>> messed up or autocorrected.
>>> 
>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>> 
>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> 
> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>>> 
>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
 
 Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
> 
> The ticket is now open:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect, thank you.
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
 I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 What language should I use?
>>> 
>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>> .
>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>> .
>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>>> d...@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>>> test the waters over there.
> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

Apache PawPaw

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
> fruit/veggie theme?
> 
> Jackfruit
> Jambolan
> Jocote
> Kumquat
> KangKong
> Kabosu
> 
> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
> name you could use after Cava.
> 
> Just brainstorming.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>> graduation. :)
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
 I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>> 
>>> We need to pick another name.
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 
 Hi -
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>> messed up or autocorrected.
>> 
>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>> 
>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
 
 Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
 
 OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
>> 
>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 The ticket is now open:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thank you.
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> What language should I use?
>> 
>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>> .
>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>> .
>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d...@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>> test the waters over there.
 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> On 3/19/2019 8:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of 
>> graduation. :)
> 
> I would say that's irrelevant.

Yeah, I simply said it was funny :)
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> On 3/19/2019 8:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of 
>> graduation. :)
> 
> I would say that's irrelevant.  Skywalking is a term that is from the
> iron workers from ~100 years ago.  Obi-wan, however, is likely unique
> and defendable to the Star Wars works. 

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon had a lot of “Sky Walking”. It seems to be a 
theme in that genre of martial arts films.

> 
> Was Skywalking able to get a mark? They have TM on their logo.

Anyone can put a TM on their product even if it infringes on another trademark. 
They can then be told to stop.
What really matters is Registration which allows the R in a circle. 

In the case of Skywalking they had already operated under that name and 
OpenSkyWalking prior to Incubation.

The name was approved by Brand last November.

Regards,
Dave

> However,
> I would say the possibility people will use Star Wars references with
> Skywalking is relevant and should be warned to them.
> 
> Regrds,
> KAM
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

I can paint that shed.

Here is an idea - Apache Lava

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 6:58 AM, Michael Wall  wrote:
> 
> Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
> fruit/veggie theme?
> 
> Jackfruit
> Jambolan
> Jocote
> Kumquat
> KangKong
> Kabosu
> 
> I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
> vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
> name you could use after Cava.
> 
> Just brainstorming.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
>> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
>> graduation. :)
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
 I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
>> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
>> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
>> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
>>> 
>>> We need to pick another name.
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 
 Hi -
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
>> messed up or autocorrected.
>> 
>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>> 
>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
 
 Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
>> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
 
 OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
>> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
>> 
>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 The ticket is now open:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thank you.
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> What language should I use?
>> 
>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>> .
>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
>> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>> .
>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf <
>> d...@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will
>> test the waters over there.
 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 3/19/2019 8:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of 
> graduation. :)

I would say that's irrelevant.  Skywalking is a term that is from the
iron workers from ~100 years ago.  Obi-wan, however, is likely unique
and defendable to the Star Wars works. 

Was Skywalking able to get a mark? They have TM on their logo.  However,
I would say the possibility people will use Star Wars references with
Skywalking is relevant and should be warned to them.

Regrds,
KAM


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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Michael Wall]

Since Cava is the Guava for blockchains, what about sticking with the
fruit/veggie theme?

Jackfruit
Jambolan
Jocote
Kumquat
KangKong
Kabosu

I also saw the word postcava which is the "the inferior vena cava of
vertebrates higher than fishes" according to
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/postcava.  But is seemed like a
name you could use after Cava.

Just brainstorming.

Mike



On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:19 AM Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of
> graduation. :)
>
> > On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> >
> > All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
> >> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the
> community must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars
> references. The view of the community is that the community is likely to
> find that difficult. It was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
> >
> > We need to pick another name.
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> 
>  Hi -
> 
>  I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either
> messed up or autocorrected.
> 
>  PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165>Establish
> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> 
>  Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> >>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> >>
> >> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected
> to see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> >>
> >> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to
> Obiwan … more Jedi mind tricks.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> 
>  Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> 
>  Regards,
>  Dave
> 
> > On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> >
> >> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The ticket is now open:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Perfect, thank you.
> >>>
>  On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf 
> wrote:
> 
>  Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> > I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> 
>  Thanks.
> 
> > What language should I use?
> 
>  The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>  .
>  "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named
> Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>  .
>  with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Daniel
> 
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> >>
> >> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

What is somewhat funny is that the "SkyWalking" podling is on the cusp of 
graduation. :)

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>> I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the community 
>> must refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars references. The view 
>> of the community is that the community is likely to find that difficult. It 
>> was therefore agreed to look for a different name.
> 
> We need to pick another name.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
 
 Hi -
 
 I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed 
 up or autocorrected.
 
 PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
 Establish 
 whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
 
 Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
>> 
>> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to 
>> see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
>> 
>> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan 
>> … more Jedi mind tricks.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
 
 Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> The ticket is now open: 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
 wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
 
 Thanks.
 
> What language should I use?
 
 The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
 .
 "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
 Kenobi"
 .
 with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Daniel
 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test 
>>> the waters over there.
>> 
>> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Mark Thomas]

On 19/03/2019 05:42, Antoine Toulme wrote:

All, the results are in, from VP Legal:


Nitpick. VP, Brand Management rather than VP, Legal.

Mark


I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the community must 
refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars references. The view of the 
community is that the community is likely to find that difficult. It was 
therefore agreed to look for a different name.


We need to pick another name.


On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Hi -


On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:




On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

Hi -

I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up 
or autocorrected.

PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
Establish whether 
"Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name

Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?

No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.


Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to see. 
Then Daniel wrote what he did.

OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … 
more Jedi mind tricks.

Regards,
Dave



Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.

Regards,
Dave


On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

Thx. We'll wait for the decision.


On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:

The ticket is now open: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165

Cheers,

Antoine


On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:

Perfect, thank you.


On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:

Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:

I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.


Thanks.


What language should I use?


The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
.
"In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
.
with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.

Cheers,

Daniel


On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:

Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:

I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters 
over there.


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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

All, the results are in, from VP Legal:
>I am happy to approve the name in isolation. Specifically, the community must 
>refrain from linking the project to any Star Wars references. The view of the 
>community is that the community is likely to find that difficult. It was 
>therefore agreed to look for a different name.

We need to pick another name.

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed 
>>> up or autocorrected.
>>> 
>>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
>>> Establish 
>>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>>> 
>>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
>> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to 
> see. Then Daniel wrote what he did.
> 
> OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … 
> more Jedi mind tricks.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>>> 
>>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
 
 Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
 
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> The ticket is now open: 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect, thank you.
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
 I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 What language should I use?
>>> 
>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>> .
>>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
>>> Kenobi"
>>> .
>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
> wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
>> waters over there.
> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed 
>> up or autocorrected.
>> 
>> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
>> Establish 
>> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
>> 
>> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
> No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.

Well, my bad eye sight had my brain auto-correcting to what I expected to see. 
Then Daniel wrote what he did.

OK. Let’s look into Obiwarn and deal with Apple autocorrecting it to Obiwan … 
more Jedi mind tricks.

Regards,
Dave

>> 
>> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>>> 
 On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 The ticket is now open: 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thank you.
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> What language should I use?
>> 
>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>> .
>> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
>> Kenobi"
>> .
>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
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 wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
> waters over there.
 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up 
> or autocorrected.
> 
> PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
> Establish 
> whether "Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name
> 
> Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?
No, the name is Obiwarn. With a r.
> 
> Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
>> 
>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The ticket is now open: 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 Perfect, thank you.
 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> What language should I use?
> 
> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> .
> "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan 
> Kenobi"
> .
> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
 I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
 waters over there.
>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

I went to look at the Trademark name search and something is either messed up 
or autocorrected.

PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165 
Establish whether 
"Apache Obiwarn" is a Suitable Name

Isn’t the name supposed to be Obiwan and not Obiwarn?

Please look into it. Sorry, color me confused.

Regards,
Dave

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Thx. We'll wait for the decision.
> 
>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> The ticket is now open: 
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perfect, thank you.
>>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
 
 Thanks.
 
> What language should I use?
 
 The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
 .
 "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
 .
 with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Daniel
 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
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>>> waters over there.
>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

Thx. We'll wait for the decision.

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:05 AM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> The ticket is now open: 
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> Perfect, thank you.
>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
 I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
 What language should I use?
>>> 
>>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>>> .
>>>  "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>>> .
>>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
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>> waters over there.
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

The ticket is now open: 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-165

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:24 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> Perfect, thank you.
> 
>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>> 
>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>>> What language should I use?
>> 
>> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
>> .
>>   "In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
>> .
>> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
 On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
 
 Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
> waters over there.
 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Perfect, thank you.

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
>> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> What language should I use?
> 
> The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
> .
>"In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
> .
> with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
 I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
 waters over there.
>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Daniel Shahaf]

Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 15:09:39 -0800:
> I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list.

Thanks.

> What language should I use?

The public part of PNS tickets should be factual, so I'd say:
.
"In the _Star Wars_ universe there exists a character named Obi-Wan Kenobi"
.
with a link to Wikipedia for good measure.

Cheers,

Daniel

> > On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> > 
> > Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> >> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the 
> >> waters over there.
> > 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Hello Daniel,

I am happy to mention that you mentioned this term on list. Are you inferring 
something? What language should I use?

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
>> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters 
>> over there.
> 
> When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
> .
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
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> the
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Daniel Shahaf]

Antoine Toulme wrote on Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 09:10:08 -0800:
> I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters 
> over there.

When you create a PNS ticket, please note on it the existence of
.

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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Thanks Jim.

Hat tip to Jonny who joined the list just to make this contribution.
Jonny is a committer on the project and will participate a new initial 
committer to the project at Apache.
It’s his first involvement with Apache, please welcome him to the fray!

How about this:
I’ll open a pooling name search ticket for Obiwarn and will test the waters 
over there.
Meanwhile, if you have a strong objection, please let it be known here.

Cheers,

Antoine


> On Mar 1, 2019, at 4:47 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> either works for me.
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll change my vote.
>> 
>> +1 to Obiwarn.
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> -1 to Bava
>>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 
>>> 
>>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
 +1 to Bava
 
 On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
> 
> https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
> 
> Google code:
> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
> No hits
> 
> Sourceforge:
> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
> No hits
> 
> Openhub:
> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
> 
> Trademarks:
> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
> No hits in computer science domain
> 
> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
> 
> USPTO:
> 
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
> 
> Web presence:
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
> 12,100,000 results
> 
> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
> the horror “slasher” film.
> 
> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
> 
> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
> 
> StackOverflow:
> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
> 
> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
> specialize in apparel and fashion.
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
> 
> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
> 
> No matches on Spotify.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
> find.
> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

either works for me.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I’ll change my vote.
> 
> +1 to Obiwarn.
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> -1 to Bava
>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 
>> 
>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
>>> +1 to Bava
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
 +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
 
 https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
 No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
 
 Google code:
 https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
 No hits
 
 Sourceforge:
 https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
 No hits
 
 Openhub:
 https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
 
 Trademarks:
 https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
 No hits in computer science domain
 
 https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
 No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
 
 USPTO:
 
 http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
 
 Web presence:
 
 https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
 12,100,000 results
 
 Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
 the horror “slasher” film.
 
 Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
 
 Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
 
 StackOverflow:
 https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
 
 LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
 specialize in apparel and fashion.
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
 
 No matches in Oxford dictionary:
 https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
 
 No matches on Spotify.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
 
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
 find.
 
 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 2/28/2019 4:37 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can find.
>
No trademark concerns I see or commercial / OSS uses that conflict that
I see.

Note: From the USPTO TESS: "*BAVA*" is an Italian word that means
"slobber" or "drool".  Not sure if this will permalink:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4804:rx7o71.2.7

So I'm totally +1 for Apache Slobber :-)

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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 2/28/2019 4:28 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I am aware of various members of the LGBT+ community being offended by 
> companies
> trying to *co-opt* the rainbow *symbol* specifically and explicitly in 
> relation to a cheap
> and easy way to show "support" or a way to be "hip" or "cool"... heck, I'm 
> offended by it as well.
>
> But that's not what we're talking about.

A) I don't speak for the LGBTQ community and hence I can only say it's a
concern and not how much of a concern it is.  Just that I'm aware of the
issue in general.

B) I think the Apache Rainbow project would inevitably have a Rainbow in
it's logo which is where I see a possible concern but again see A)

As I mentioned, I've asked if an ASF member with a better grasp of the
potential issue to weigh in.  Not much else I can say about the issue.


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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Usage check:

https://github.com/search?o=desc=obiwarn
No repo using the name or active. One user named obiwarn.

Google code:
https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=obiwarn
No hits

Sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=obiwarn
No hits

Openhub:
https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=obiwarn
No hits

Trademarks:
https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=obiwarn
No hits

https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=obiwarn
No hits

USPTO:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4801%3Azgp26q.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=obiwarn_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
No records.

Web presence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=obiwarn=obiwarn
27,000 results

No matches except for that github user.

StackOverflow:
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=obiwarn
0 results

LinkedIn: No hits

No matches in Oxford dictionary:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=obiwarn

No matches on Spotify.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:07 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I’ll change my vote.
> 
> +1 to Obiwarn.
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.r...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> -1 to Bava
>> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 
>> 
>> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
>>> +1 to Bava
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
 +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
 
 https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
 No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
 
 Google code:
 https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
 No hits
 
 Sourceforge:
 https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
 No hits
 
 Openhub:
 https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
 
 Trademarks:
 https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
 No hits in computer science domain
 
 https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
 No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
 
 USPTO:
 
 http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
 
 Web presence:
 
 https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
 12,100,000 results
 
 Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
 the horror “slasher” film.
 
 Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
 
 Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
 
 StackOverflow:
 https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
 
 LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
 specialize in apparel and fashion.
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
 
 No matches in Oxford dictionary:
 https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
 
 No matches on Spotify.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
 
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
 find.
 
 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

I’ll change my vote.

+1 to Obiwarn.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:04 PM, jonathan.r...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> -1 to Bava
> How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 
> 
> On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
>> +1 to Bava
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>>> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
>>> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>>> 
>>> Google code:
>>> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
>>> No hits
>>> 
>>> Sourceforge:
>>> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
>>> No hits
>>> 
>>> Openhub:
>>> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
>>> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>>> 
>>> Trademarks:
>>> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
>>> No hits in computer science domain
>>> 
>>> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
>>> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>>> 
>>> USPTO:
>>> 
>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
>>> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>>> 
>>> Web presence:
>>> 
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
>>> 12,100,000 results
>>> 
>>> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
>>> the horror “slasher” film.
>>> 
>>> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>>> 
>>> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>>> 
>>> StackOverflow:
>>> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
>>> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>>> 
>>> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
>>> specialize in apparel and fashion.
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>>> 
>>> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
>>> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
>>> 
>>> No matches on Spotify.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>> 
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 What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
>>> find.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[jonathan . rhea]

-1 to Bava
How about Obiwarn. it is an anagram for rainbow and it sounds cool. 

On 2019/02/28 22:20:00, Kenneth Knowles  wrote: 
> +1 to Bava
> 
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> > +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
> >
> > https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
> > No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
> >
> > Google code:
> > https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
> > No hits
> >
> > Sourceforge:
> > https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
> > No hits
> >
> > Openhub:
> > https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
> > 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
> >
> > Trademarks:
> > https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
> > No hits in computer science domain
> >
> > https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
> > No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
> >
> > USPTO:
> >
> > http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
> > 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
> >
> > Web presence:
> >
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
> > 12,100,000 results
> >
> > Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
> > the horror “slasher” film.
> >
> > Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
> >
> > Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
> >
> > StackOverflow:
> > https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
> > 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
> >
> > LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
> > specialize in apparel and fashion.
> > https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
> >
> > No matches in Oxford dictionary:
> > https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
> >
> > No matches on Spotify.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> > >
> > > What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
> > find.
> >
> >
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kenneth Knowles]

+1 to Bava

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:11 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:

> +1 for Bava. Checking usage now.
>
> https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
> No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.
>
> Google code:
> https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
> No hits
>
> Sourceforge:
> https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
> No hits
>
> Openhub:
> https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
> 2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.
>
> Trademarks:
> https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
> No hits in computer science domain
>
> https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
> No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.
>
> USPTO:
>
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
> 9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.
>
> Web presence:
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
> 12,100,000 results
>
> Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created
> the horror “slasher” film.
>
> Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava
>
> Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French.
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava
>
> StackOverflow:
> https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
> 14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.
>
> LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They
> specialize in apparel and fashion.
> https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/
>
> No matches in Oxford dictionary:
> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava
>
> No matches on Spotify.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can
> find.
>
>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

+1 for Bava. Checking usage now.

https://github.com/search?o=desc=bava
No repo using the name or active. Most repos hobbyists.

Google code:
https://opensource.google.com/projects/search?q=bava
No hits

Sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/directory/os:mac/?q=bava
No hits

Openhub:
https://www.openhub.net/p?ref=homepage=bava
2 hits. But https://www.openhub.net/p/bava is empty with no code.

Trademarks:
https://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=bava
No hits in computer science domain

https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=bava
No hits in computer science. Mostly sparkling wine.

USPTO:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc=4805%3Avniyw0.1.1_search=searchss_L=50=_plural=yes_s_PARA1=_tagrepl~%3A=PARA1%24LD=PARA1+AND+PARA2_s_PARA2=bava_tagrepl~%3A=PARA2%24COMB_op_ALL=AND_default=search_search=Submit+Query_search=Submit+Query
9 records found, 5 live. None about computer science.

Web presence:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bava=bava
12,100,000 results

Mostly about Mario Bava. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bava Created the 
horror “slasher” film.

Bava also means god in Sri Lanka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bava

Finally, Bava is a conjugation of the verb to drool in French. 
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bava

StackOverflow:
https://stackoverflow.com/search?q=bava
14 results because a user’s last name is Bava.

LinkedIn: I found one company named Bava International Ltd. They specialize in 
apparel and fashion.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bava-international-ltd/about/

No matches in Oxford dictionary:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/search?filter=dictionary=bava

No matches on Spotify.

Cheers,

Antoine


> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can find.

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

FWIW I am very happy I received strong signal that this was not going to work, 
in a timely manner.

No worries and let’s move on.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
 
 It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
 be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
 of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
 about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
>>> large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
>>> stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
>>> such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such. 
>> 
>> I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
>> also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
>> concern.  I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is.  I will
>> work to get that better clarified for the podling.
> 
> I am aware of various members of the LGBT+ community being offended by 
> companies
> trying to *co-opt* the rainbow *symbol* specifically and explicitly in 
> relation to a cheap
> and easy way to show "support" or a way to be "hip" or "cool"... heck, I'm 
> offended by it as well.
> 
> But that's not what we're talking about.
> 
> And yeah, "just figure out a new name if there is any possible doubt" is
> a safe strategy, but it does edge us closer to a slippery slope.
> 
> --
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>> 
>>> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
>>> be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
>>> of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
>>> about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
>> large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
>> stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
>> such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such. 
> 
> I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
> also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
> concern.  I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is.  I will
> work to get that better clarified for the podling.

I am aware of various members of the LGBT+ community being offended by companies
trying to *co-opt* the rainbow *symbol* specifically and explicitly in relation 
to a cheap
and easy way to show "support" or a way to be "hip" or "cool"... heck, I'm 
offended by it as well.

But that's not what we're talking about.

And yeah, "just figure out a new name if there is any possible doubt" is
a safe strategy, but it does edge us closer to a slippery slope.

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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

What about Bava? Blockchain Java and no offensive meanings that I can find.

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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kenneth Knowles]

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 12:26 PM Kevin A. McGrail 
wrote:

> On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >>
> >> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
> >> be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
> >> of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
> >> about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
> > large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
> > stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
> > such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such.
>
> I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
> also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
> concern.  I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is.  I will
> work to get that better clarified for the podling.
>

But this is just a random name out of many choices. I don't think it is
even worth this amount of discussion. If there's any arbitrary, possibly
spurious, reason to avoid it, there's plenty of other names. Regardless of
this issue, I wouldn't want a name that causes people to talk about
anything other than the project.

Kenn


>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 2/28/2019 3:24 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>
>> It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow
>> be offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware
>> of situations where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns"
>> about usage *of the name* Rainbow.
>
> +1
>
> Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a
> large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please
> stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If
> such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such. 

I have asked off-list for someone I trust in the LGBTQ community who is
also an ASF member to weigh in on this but I am aware that this is a
concern.  I just can't articulate how much of a concern it is.  I will
work to get that better clarified for the podling.

-- 
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Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Daniel Gruno]

On 2/28/19 8:45 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Hmm... in less than 20mins the request for Rainbow was shut down...

I'm not sure how I feel about this... The justification seems a real stretch to 
me:

 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH/issues/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-164?filter=allissues

It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow be offensive or 
insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware of situations where the LGBT+ 
community "has expressed concerns" about usage *of the name* Rainbow.


+1

Anyone could hypothetically be offended by anything, I could list a 
large number of theoretical offenses in project names. Let's please 
stick to *actual* feedback and not preemptively censor ourselves. If 
such feedback exists, fair enough, but I am also not aware of any such.




But, I guess another name needs to be found...
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

Hmm... in less than 20mins the request for Rainbow was shut down...

I'm not sure how I feel about this... The justification seems a real stretch to 
me:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH/issues/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-164?filter=allissues

It also seems to imply that usage of the name rainbow would somehow be 
offensive or insensitive. Again, I'm not sure how. Nor am I aware of situations 
where the LGBT+ community "has expressed concerns" about usage *of the name* 
Rainbow.

But, I guess another name needs to be found...
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Thanks Kevin, your help and guidance are appreciated.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:02 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> A rose by any other name would still be as sweet so I am +1 on the
> proposal.  Just trying to help with the naming issue and to save the
> project and infra grief of it needs to change.
> 
> But I am here to support and feel bad to throw any gunk in your sprockets.
> 
> Best, KAM
> 
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 13:59 Antoine Toulme  
>> For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
>> 
>> The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move
>> past non-votes.
>> I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this
>> thread closed with the name Rainbow.
>> I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as
>> well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
>>> 
 On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
 
 Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to
>> lead
 me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
 discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
 needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
 
 Regards,
 KAM
 
 On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>> 
>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>> 
>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I
>> would
>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>> 
>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up
>> words.
>> Less chance of conflictions.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> KAM
>> 
>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>> 
>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still
>> following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>> 
>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>> 
>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push
>> proposals to hear objections.
>>> 
>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>> 
 On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS
>> projects with those names.
 
 I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the
>> whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
 
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
> 
> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is
>> clearly a
>> really different field of use.
>> 
>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in
>> presuming it
>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source
>> project,
>> let's not collide.
>> 
>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search,
>> but sounds
>> like someone should check my work...
> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming
>> language I
> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
> (
>> https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>> 
> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like
>> Raspberry
> Pi's overtaking the field.
> 
> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark,
>> etc.
> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces
>> except a
> company called winch gate.
> 
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
> 
> Regards,
> 
> KAM
> 
> 
> 
> --
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

A rose by any other name would still be as sweet so I am +1 on the
proposal.  Just trying to help with the naming issue and to save the
project and infra grief of it needs to change.

But I am here to support and feel bad to throw any gunk in your sprockets.

Best, KAM

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019, 13:59 Antoine Toulme  For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.
>
> The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move
> past non-votes.
> I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this
> thread closed with the name Rainbow.
> I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antoine
>
> > On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as
> well progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
> >
> >> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to
> lead
> >> me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
> >> discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
> >> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> KAM
> >>
> >> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
> >>>
>  On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> 
>  Not an objection per se but two comments:
> 
>  1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>  concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
> 
>  2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I
> would
>  say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
> 
>  In the business world I often recommend people consider made up
> words.
>  Less chance of conflictions.
> 
>  Regards,
>  KAM
> 
>  On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> > Hey folks, just checking in.
> >
> > I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still
> following, we have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
> >
> > We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
> >
> > When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push
> proposals to hear objections.
> >
> > At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
> >
> >> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS
> projects with those names.
> >>
> >> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the
> whimsical requirement of Apache project names.
> >>
> >>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>  I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is
> clearly a
>  really different field of use.
> 
>  I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in
> presuming it
>  described a historical language. If it is an active open source
> project,
>  let's not collide.
> 
>  So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search,
> but sounds
>  like someone should check my work...
> >>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming
> language I
> >>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
> >>> (
> https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>
> >>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like
> Raspberry
> >>> Pi's overtaking the field.
> >>>
> >>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark,
> etc.
> >>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces
> except a
> >>> company called winch gate.
> >>>
> >>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> KAM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

For context Jim is the champion of the Cava proposal.

The point of rough consensus is to bring about strong objections and move past 
non-votes.
I believe we are at that point, and I will move forward to consider this thread 
closed with the name Rainbow.
I will open a pooling namecheck and move to the next step there.

Thanks,

Antoine

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 7:41 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as well 
> progress on w/ that assumption. ;)
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>> 
>> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to lead
>> me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
>> discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
>> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
>> 
>> Regards,
>> KAM
>> 
>> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>>> 
 On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
 
 Not an objection per se but two comments:
 
 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
 concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
 
 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
 say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
 
 In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words. 
 Less chance of conflictions.
 
 Regards,
 KAM
 
 On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> Hey folks, just checking in.
> 
> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we 
> have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
> 
> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
> 
> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to 
> hear objections.
> 
> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS 
>> projects with those names.
>> 
>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
>> requirement of Apache project names.
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
 I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is 
 clearly a
 really different field of use.
 
 I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
 described a historical language. If it is an active open source 
 project,
 let's not collide.
 
 So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but 
 sounds
 like someone should check my work...
>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>>  
>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>> 
>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>> company called winch gate. 
>>> 
>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

Well, I have no doubt that the proposal is going to pass, so we might as well 
progress on w/ that assumption. ;)

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to lead
> me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
> discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
> needs to discover whether a name is suitable."
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> 
> On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>> 
>>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>> 
>>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
>>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>> 
>>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words. 
>>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>> 
>>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
 Hey folks, just checking in.
 
 I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we 
 have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
 
 We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
 
 When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to 
 hear objections.
 
 At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
 
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS 
> projects with those names.
> 
> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
> requirement of Apache project names.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly 
>>> a
>>> really different field of use.
>>> 
>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>> let's not collide.
>>> 
>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but 
>>> sounds
>>> like someone should check my work...
>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>  
>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>> 
>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>> company called winch gate. 
>> 
>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> KAM
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

Jim, I don't read https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html to lead
me to believe we are at that stage yet.  I think we want to have
discussions about a provisional name first.  Specifically, "A podling
needs to discover whether a name is suitable."

Regards,
KAM

On 2/28/2019 9:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>>
>> Not an objection per se but two comments:
>>
>> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
>> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
>>
>> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
>> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
>>
>> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words. 
>> Less chance of conflictions.
>>
>> Regards,
>> KAM
>>
>> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>>>
>>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we 
>>> have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>>>
>>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>>>
>>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to 
>>> hear objections.
>>>
>>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>>>
 On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:

 I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS 
 projects with those names.

 I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
 requirement of Apache project names.

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>
> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>> really different field of use.
>>
>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>> let's not collide.
>>
>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>> like someone should check my work...
> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>  
> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
> Pi's overtaking the field.
>
> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
> company called winch gate. 
>
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>
> Regards,
>
> KAM
>
>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jim Jagielski]

We should simply file a standard Jira request for a podling namecheck.

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> Not an objection per se but two comments:
> 
> 1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
> concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay
> 
> 2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
> say rainbow would be something I would avoid.
> 
> In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words. 
> Less chance of conflictions.
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> 
> On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Hey folks, just checking in.
>> 
>> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we 
>> have narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>> 
>> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>> 
>> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to 
>> hear objections.
>> 
>> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects 
>>> with those names.
>>> 
>>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
>>> requirement of Apache project names.
>>> 
 On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
 
 On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
> really different field of use.
> 
> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
> let's not collide.
> 
> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
> like someone should check my work...
 Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
 think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
 (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
  
 I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
 Pi's overtaking the field.
 
 Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
 Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
 company called winch gate. 
 
 http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

Not an objection per se but two comments:

1 - Rainbow is associated with LGBTQ communities and there have been
concerns about it being co-opted for other uses.  For example,
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/02/brands-rainbow-queasy-but-bring-lgbt-lives-into-mainstream-skittles-gay

2 - I cannot speak for the LGBTQ community and I support them so I would
say rainbow would be something I would avoid.

In the business world I often recommend people consider made up words. 
Less chance of conflictions.

Regards,
KAM

On 2/28/2019 3:28 AM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> Hey folks, just checking in.
>
> I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have 
> narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.
>
> We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.
>
> When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear 
> objections.
>
> At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?
>
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>
>> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects 
>> with those names.
>>
>> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
>> requirement of Apache project names.
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
 I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
 really different field of use.

 I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
 described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
 let's not collide.

 So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
 like someone should check my work...
>>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
>>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>>  
>>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>>>
>>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
>>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>>> company called winch gate. 
>>>
>>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> KAM
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Hey folks, just checking in.

I would like to establish rough consensus. If you’re still following, we have 
narrowed down the list to rainbow, sprocket and winch.

We have one vote for rainbow, and one for winch.

When establishing rough consensus, it’s a good idea to push proposals to hear 
objections.

At this time, I’d like to push for the name rainbow. Any objections?

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects 
> with those names.
> 
> I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
> requirement of Apache project names.
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>>> really different field of use.
>>> 
>>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>>> let's not collide.
>>> 
>>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>>> like someone should check my work...
>> 
>> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
>> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
>> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>>  
>> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
>> Pi's overtaking the field.
>> 
>> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
>> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
>> company called winch gate. 
>> 
>> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> KAM
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

I ran searches for rainbow, sprocket and winch and didn’t find OSS projects 
with those names.

I personally would like to vouch for Rainbow. It does fit the whimsical 
requirement of Apache project names.

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
>> really different field of use.
>> 
>> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
>> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
>> let's not collide.
>> 
>> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
>> like someone should check my work...
> 
> Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
> think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
> (https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
>  
> I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
> Pi's overtaking the field.
> 
> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
> company called winch gate. 
> 
> http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help
> 
> Regards,
> 
> KAM
> 
> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Daniel Shahaf]

Kevin A. McGrail wrote on Tue, 26 Feb 2019 23:57 +00:00:
> Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
> Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
> company called winch gate. 

There's the SIGWINCH signal in terminal applications.

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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

On 2/26/2019 6:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
> really different field of use.
>
> I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
> described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
> let's not collide.
>
> So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
> like someone should check my work...

Re: JAL, the airline is just not an issue.  The programming language I
think is as there are books on Amazon less than 6 years old on PAL
(https://www.amazon.com/PIC-Microcontroller-Programming-captivating-lessons/dp/190792017X)
 
I don't think it's legacy just perhaps mature and things like Raspberry
Pi's overtaking the field.

Re: Winch, might be a common name and undefendable as a trademark, etc. 
Otherwise, though, I couldn't find much relevant in OSS spaces except a
company called winch gate. 

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/ might help

Regards,

KAM



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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kenneth Knowles]

I searched for "Jal" and came up with Japan Air Lines, which is clearly a
really different field of use.

I also found the Wikipedia article on JAL but was hasty in presuming it
described a historical language. If it is an active open source project,
let's not collide.

So I'll change my vote to "Winch". I again did a quick search, but sounds
like someone should check my work...

Kenn

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:14 PM Byung-Gon Chun  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> JAL is also a trademark of Japan Air Lines.
>
> Best,
> Gon
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:08 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> > JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the
> > field of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP,
> > Brand.
> >
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Antoine,
> > >
> > > I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we
> > get
> > > to that stage.
> > >
> > > I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.
> > My
> > > $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for
> > confusion
> > > would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal.  And while JAL, the
> > > programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO
> > to a
> > > long standing project to just hijack the name.
> > >
> > > If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> > > name.  My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding
> a
> > > trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
> > >
> > > With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > > http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using
> > that
> > > name.  For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> > > convinced differently.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive
> so
> > my
> > > apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench.  I just happened to
> > catch
> > > the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> > > here we are...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > KAM
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kevin A. McGrail
> > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain
> > of
> > >> the project.
> > >> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about
> > name
> > >> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
> > >>
> > >> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
> > >>
> > >> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
> > >>
> > >> [0]:
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Antoine,
> > >>>
> > >>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much
> > traffic
> > >>> here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
> > >>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > >>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> > >>> open source project name.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> KAM
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >  Thanks all.
> > 
> >  We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> > >> other names.
> >  Thank you for your participation!
> > 
> >  I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the
> > proposal.
> > 
> >  We are now set to open the podling.
> > 
> >  Cheers,
> > 
> >  Antoine
> > 
> > > On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  >
> > >> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 for Jal
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the
> incubator
> > >> [0].
> > >>
> > >> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a
> better
> > >> name for the project [1].
> > >>
> > >> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> > >>
> > >> Here are the names:
> > >> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
> with
> > >> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> > >> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> > >> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> > >> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> > >> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in
> > the
> > >> chain 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Byung-Gon Chun]

Hi,

JAL is also a trademark of Japan Air Lines.

Best,
Gon


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:08 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi -
>
> JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the
> field of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP,
> Brand.
>
> http://justanotherlanguage.org
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Antoine,
> >
> > I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we
> get
> > to that stage.
> >
> > I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.
> My
> > $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for
> confusion
> > would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal.  And while JAL, the
> > programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO
> to a
> > long standing project to just hijack the name.
> >
> > If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> > name.  My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
> > trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
> >
> > With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using
> that
> > name.  For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> > convinced differently.
> >
> > Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so
> my
> > apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench.  I just happened to
> catch
> > the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> > here we are...
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain
> of
> >> the project.
> >> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about
> name
> >> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
> >>
> >> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
> >>
> >> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
> >>
> >> [0]:
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Antoine,
> >>>
> >>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much
> traffic
> >>> here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
> >>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> >>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> >>> open source project name.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> KAM
> >>>
> >>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>  Thanks all.
> 
>  We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> >> other names.
>  Thank you for your participation!
> 
>  I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the
> proposal.
> 
>  We are now set to open the podling.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Antoine
> 
> > On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> >> wrote:
> >
> > +1 for Jal
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> >> [0].
> >>
> >> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> >> name for the project [1].
> >>
> >> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> >>
> >> Here are the names:
> >> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> >> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> >> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> >> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> >> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in
> the
> >> chain theme as well)
> >> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
> >> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> >> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of
> all
> >> the other dew drops.
> >> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> dew
> >> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> >> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> >>
> >> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
> >> feel free to justify your choice.
> >> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of
> a
> >> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

JAL is built for programming PIC micro controllers and I think that the field 
of use may be different enough. But the question is one for the VP, Brand.

http://justanotherlanguage.org

Regards,
Dave

> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Antoine,
> 
> I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we get
> to that stage.
> 
> I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.  My
> $0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for confusion
> would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal.  And while JAL, the
> programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO to a
> long standing project to just hijack the name.
> 
> If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
> name.  My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
> trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.
> 
> With Jal being an existing OSS project (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using that
> name.  For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
> convinced differently.
> 
> Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so my
> apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench.  I just happened to catch
> the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
> here we are...
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> 
> 
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
>> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of
>> the project.
>> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name
>> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
>> 
>> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
>> 
>> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
>> 
>> [0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Antoine,
>>> 
>>> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
>>> here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
>>> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
>>> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
>>> 
>>> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
>>> open source project name.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> KAM
>>> 
>>> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
 Thanks all.
 
 We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
>> other names.
 Thank you for your participation!
 
 I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
 
 We are now set to open the podling.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
>> wrote:
> 
> +1 for Jal
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
>> [0].
>> 
>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
>> name for the project [1].
>> 
>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>> 
>> Here are the names:
>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
>> chain theme as well)
>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
>> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>> the other dew drops.
>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>> 
>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
>> feel free to justify your choice.
>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
>> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
>> name.
>> 
>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
>> afternoon PST time.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>> [0]:
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>> [1]:
>> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

Thanks Antoine,

I am happy to help and vote but I want to make sure I'm right before we get
to that stage.

I don't know if branding or legal (or press) would oppose the name Jal.  My
$0.02 is that if this were a corporate entity, the likelihood for confusion
would be very high with two OSS projects named Jal.  And while JAL, the
programming language, might not have a Trademark, it would be rude IMO to a
long standing project to just hijack the name.

If they have trademarks, it would be almost certainly a torpedo to the
name.  My assumption is that the name suitability is rooted in finding a
trademarkable, unique, defendable, and brandable name.

With Jal being an existing OSS project (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
http://justanotherlanguage.org/), I'm certainly not excited by using that
name.  For now, consider me a -0.5 and I welcome the opportunity to be
convinced differently.

Sorry, I'm really working hard to make the incubator process positive so my
apologies again for a last minute monkey wrench.  I just happened to catch
the subject on the thread and I know some PIC programming in JAL and so
here we are...

Regards,
KAM


--
Kevin A. McGrail
Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171


On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 5:20 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:

> I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of
> the project.
> The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name
> uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.
>
> Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:
>
> Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?
>
> [0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail 
> wrote:
> >
> > Antoine,
> >
> > I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
> > here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
> > programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> > http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> >
> > I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> > open source project name.
> >
> > Regards,
> > KAM
> >
> > On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> >> Thanks all.
> >>
> >> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for
> other names.
> >> Thank you for your participation!
> >>
> >> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
> >>
> >> We are now set to open the podling.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> +1 for Jal
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>  Hi all,
> 
>  I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> [0].
> 
>  At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> name for the project [1].
> 
>  Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> 
>  Here are the names:
>  - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>  - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>  - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
> chain theme as well)
>  - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote
> from [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
> the other dew drops.
>  And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> 
>  In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please
> feel free to justify your choice.
>  Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> name.
> 
>  I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> afternoon PST time.
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Antoine
> 
>  [0]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>  [1]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>  [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>  [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

I am aware of those uses, but they don’t seem to cross with the domain of the 
project.
The suitable name search guide [0] expresses a lot of subtlety about name 
uniqueness which gave me this interpretation.

Nevertheless, let’s then reopen the thread:

Would you like to vote for another name in the list proposed?

[0]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#what_makes_a_name_good


> On Feb 26, 2019, at 2:11 PM, Kevin A. McGrail  wrote:
> 
> Antoine,
> 
> I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
> here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
> programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
> http://justanotherlanguage.org/
> 
> I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
> open source project name.
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
> 
> On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Thanks all.
>> 
>> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other 
>> names.
>> Thank you for your participation!
>> 
>> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
>> 
>> We are now set to open the podling.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 for Jal
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> 
>>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
 
 At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name 
 for the project [1].
 
 Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
 
 Here are the names:
 - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
 crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
 - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) 
 , in the chain theme)
 - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
 track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
 theme as well)
 - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from 
 [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered 
 with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the 
 other dew drops. 
 And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew 
 drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist 
 conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
 
 In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel 
 free to justify your choice.
 Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a 
 strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a 
 name.
 
 I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday 
 afternoon PST time.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
 [0]: 
 https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
 [1]: 
 https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
 [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
 [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kevin A. McGrail]

Antoine,

I hate to throw a wrench in the works but there has been so much traffic
here, I missed that thread.  Jal (just another language) is a
programming language:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAL_(compiler) &
http://justanotherlanguage.org/

I don't think it's going to be appropriate for us to step on another
open source project name.

Regards,
KAM

On 2/26/2019 5:02 PM, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> Thanks all.
>
> We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other 
> names.
> Thank you for your participation!
>
> I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.
>
> We are now set to open the podling.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
>>
>> +1 for Jal
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>>>
>>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name 
>>> for the project [1].
>>>
>>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>>>
>>> Here are the names:
>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
>>> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) 
>>> , in the chain theme)
>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
>>> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
>>> theme as well)
>>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: 
>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with 
>>> dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew 
>>> drops. 
>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops 
>>> in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of 
>>> the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>>>
>>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel 
>>> free to justify your choice.
>>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a 
>>> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a 
>>> name.
>>>
>>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday 
>>> afternoon PST time.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> [0]: 
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Thanks all.

We have a clear winner with “Jal”, with 4 +1 votes and no votes for other names.
Thank you for your participation!

I will make mention of the result of this consultation on the proposal.

We are now set to open the podling.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 25, 2019, at 1:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré  wrote:
> 
> +1 for Jal
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
> On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>> 
>> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name 
>> for the project [1].
>> 
>> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>> 
>> Here are the names:
>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
>> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , 
>> in the chain theme)
>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
>> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
>> theme as well)
>> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: 
>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with 
>> dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew 
>> drops. 
>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops 
>> in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of 
>> the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>> 
>> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free 
>> to justify your choice.
>> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong 
>> contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
>> 
>> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday 
>> afternoon PST time.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>> [0]: 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>> [1]: 
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Jean-Baptiste Onofré]

+1 for Jal

Regards
JB

On 22/02/2019 23:47, Antoine Toulme wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
> 
> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for 
> the project [1].
> 
> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> 
> Here are the names:
> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , 
> in the chain theme)
> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
> theme as well)
> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: 
> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with 
> dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew 
> drops. 
> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops 
> in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of 
> the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> 
> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free 
> to justify your choice.
> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong 
> contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.
> 
> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday 
> afternoon PST time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
> [0]: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> [1]: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Sharan F]

+1 for Jal

Thanks
Sharan


On Mon, 25 Feb 2019, 05:44 Kenneth Knowles,  wrote:

> +1 for Jal
>
> Took a look around the web and didn't see anything to worry about.
>
> It already sounds like an Apache project name :-)
>
> Kenn
>
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:20 AM Pierre Smits 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for 'Jal'
> >
> > Nice sounding, different, short.
> > .
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *Apache Trafodion , Vice President*
> > *Apache Directory , PMC Member*
> > Apache Incubator , committer
> > *Apache OFBiz , contributor (without
> privileges)
> > since 2008*
> > Apache Steve , committer
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:47 PM Antoine Toulme 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator
> [0].
> > >
> > > At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better
> name
> > > for the project [1].
> > >
> > > Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> > >
> > > Here are the names:
> > > - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> the
> > > crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> > > - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> > (Wikipedia)
> > > , in the chain theme)
> > > - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> chain,
> > > track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
> chain
> > > theme as well)
> > > - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from
> > > [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> > covered
> > > with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the
> > other
> > > dew drops.
> > > And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> > > drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> > > conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> > >
> > > In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel
> > > free to justify your choice.
> > > Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> > > strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> > > name.
> > >
> > > I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> > > afternoon PST time.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Antoine
> > >
> > > [0]:
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > [1]:
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
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> > >
> >
>

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Kenneth Knowles]

+1 for Jal

Took a look around the web and didn't see anything to worry about.

It already sounds like an Apache project name :-)

Kenn

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 12:20 AM Pierre Smits 
wrote:

> +1 for 'Jal'
>
> Nice sounding, different, short.
> .
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *Apache Trafodion , Vice President*
> *Apache Directory , PMC Member*
> Apache Incubator , committer
> *Apache OFBiz , contributor (without privileges)
> since 2008*
> Apache Steve , committer
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:47 PM Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
> >
> > At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name
> > for the project [1].
> >
> > Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
> >
> > Here are the names:
> > - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the
> > crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> > - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> (Wikipedia)
> > , in the chain theme)
> > - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain,
> > track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain
> > theme as well)
> > - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from
> > [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered
> > with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the
> other
> > dew drops.
> > And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> > drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> > conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
> >
> > In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel
> > free to justify your choice.
> > Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> > strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> > name.
> >
> > I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> > afternoon PST time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> > [0]:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > [1]:
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Pierre Smits]

+1 for 'Jal'

Nice sounding, different, short.
.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*Apache Trafodion , Vice President*
*Apache Directory , PMC Member*
Apache Incubator , committer
*Apache OFBiz , contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve , committer


On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:47 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].
>
> At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name
> for the project [1].
>
> Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.
>
> Here are the names:
> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the
> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia)
> , in the chain theme)
> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain,
> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain
> theme as well)
> - “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from
> [3]: "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered
> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other
> dew drops.
> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts)
>
> In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel
> free to justify your choice.
> Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a
> strong contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a
> name.
>
> I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday
> afternoon PST time.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> [0]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> [1]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
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[Cava] Suitable name search - choosing a name

[Antoine Toulme]

Hi all,

I have opened a thread to vote the Cava proposal into the incubator [0].

At the same time, I have engaged with the list on searching a better name for 
the project [1].

Out of this initial thread, we have singled out a list of names.

Here are the names:
- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto 
community unicorn punk theme [2].
- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in 
the chain theme)
- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track 
or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as 
well)
- “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) (with a quote from [3]: 
"Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew 
drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops. 
And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in 
that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the 
universe in an image." –Alan Watts)

In this thread, please indicate the one name you like most. Please feel free to 
justify your choice.
Based on your input, the project will adopt the name. In absence of a strong 
contender, I'll work with the Champion (Jim Jagielski) to pick a name.

I'll keep the thread open for 72 hours - that gives us until Tuesday afternoon 
PST time.

Cheers,

Antoine

[0]: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/5634b8f24cf552da4cba12ab4b59647bfa6800b7380833d8131331e9@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
[1]: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8d8014f53f140a3ccdd517c3c303de1d45cc04afdaee5961ac43e7fc@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
[2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Antoine Toulme]

Hello all,

Thank you for your feedback. We will move to change the name.

At this point, it looks like the project itself is a good fit for the incubator.
I will open a vote for acceptance into the incubator.
In parallel or quickly after, I will also hold a vote to help select a name 
amongst the propositions made so far.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Ah yes... agreed.
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> Jim,
>> 
>> The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any 
>> called kava.io .
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 keeping as-is.
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
 First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
 
 I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed 
 to proposing the project.
 To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with 
 this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
 
 We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
 others, and it looks like we can go from there.
 
 John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named 
 Kava Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
 https://github.com/Kava-Labs
 It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
 interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
 I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on 
 Jira.
 
 I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
 approach.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> 
> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, 
> I
> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
> 
> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
> https://kava.io/
> 
> John
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
> 
>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>> forget the original meaning.
>> 
>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>> 
>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
>> name :)
>> 
>> - Blockava
>> - Blockva
>> - Chainava
>> 
>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Serge...
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Consensus Java :)
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
 
 It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
 
> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
>> wrote:
> 
> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
> 
> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
>> always go
> with Apache Cava name.
> 
> - Henry
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme > wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Anu.
>> 
>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
>> agreeable.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
>> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>> 
>>> From the link:
>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>> covered
>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>> the other
>> dew drops.
>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
>> dew
>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>> 
>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
>> graph (
>>> 
>>> --Anu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
>>> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Jim Jagielski]

Ah yes... agreed.

> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any 
> called kava.io .
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> +1 keeping as-is.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>> 
>>> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>>> 
>>> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed 
>>> to proposing the project.
>>> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with 
>>> this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>>> 
>>> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
>>> others, and it looks like we can go from there.
>>> 
>>> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava 
>>> Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
>>> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
>>> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
>>> interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
>>> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on 
>>> Jira.
>>> 
>>> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
>>> approach.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
 On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
 
 If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
 would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
 presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
 
 However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
 https://kava.io/
 
 John
 
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
 
> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
> forget the original meaning.
> 
> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
> 
> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
> name :)
> 
> - Blockava
> - Blockva
> - Chainava
> 
> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
> 
> Regards,
> Serge...
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> Consensus Java :)
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>>> 
>>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
> wrote:
 
 From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
 
 If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
> always go
 with Apache Cava name.
 
 - Henry
 
 On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
 
> Thank you Anu.
> 
> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
> agreeable.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>> 
>> From the link:
>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered
> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
> the other
> dew drops.
>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>> 
>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
> graph (
>> 
>> --Anu
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
>> 
>> I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
> [1].
>> 
>> In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of
> names:
>> 
>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
> with
> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>> - Sprocket (a 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[VP Brand]

Wearing my VP, Brand Management hat:

The fields of use are sufficiently close that I would not be prepared to
approve the use of Apache Cava as a project name.

I strongly recommend that a new name for the project is chosen *before*
the podling is created as renames create large amounts of work for our
Infrastructure team.

That said, if the project wants to keep the Cava name then there are
options:

1. If Kava agree to the use of the name Cava and a co-existence
agreement is signed then I would be willing to approve the name.

2. You can appeal my decision to the ASF President (and ultimately to
the Board).

Mark
VP, Brand Management



On 19/02/2019 22:33, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any 
> called kava.io .
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> +1 keeping as-is.
>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>>>
>>> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>>>
>>> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed 
>>> to proposing the project.
>>> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with 
>>> this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>>>
>>> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
>>> others, and it looks like we can go from there.
>>>
>>> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava 
>>> Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
>>> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
>>> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
>>> interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
>>> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on 
>>> Jira.
>>>
>>> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
>>> approach.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
 On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:

 If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
 would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
 presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava

 However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
 https://kava.io/

 John

 On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:

> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
> forget the original meaning.
>
> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>
> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
> name :)
>
> - Blockava
> - Blockva
> - Chainava
>
> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>
> Regards,
> Serge...
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> Consensus Java :)
>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>>>
>>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>>>
 On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
> wrote:

 From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?

 If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
> always go
 with Apache Cava name.

 - Henry

 On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:

> Thank you Anu.
>
> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
> agreeable.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>
>> From the link:
>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered
> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
> the other
> dew drops.
>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>
>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
> graph (
>>
>> --Anu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Dave Fisher]

Jim,

The potential conflict is a small San Francisco blockchain software comp[any 
called kava.io .

Regards,
Dave

> On Feb 19, 2019, at 5:50 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> +1 keeping as-is.
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
>> 
>> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>> 
>> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed to 
>> proposing the project.
>> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with 
>> this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>> 
>> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
>> others, and it looks like we can go from there.
>> 
>> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava 
>> Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
>> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
>> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
>> interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
>> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on 
>> Jira.
>> 
>> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
>> approach.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
>>> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
>>> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
>>> 
>>> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
>>> https://kava.io/
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
>>> 
 I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
 forget the original meaning.
 
 So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
 
 Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
 name :)
 
 - Blockava
 - Blockva
 - Chainava
 
 Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
 
 Regards,
 Serge...
 
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Consensus Java :)
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
 wrote:
>> 
>> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
 for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
>> 
>> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
>>> 
>>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
 always go
>>> with Apache Cava name.
>>> 
>>> - Henry
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme >>> wrote:
>>> 
 Thank you Anu.
 
 I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
 agreeable.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Antoine
 
> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
 aengin...@hortonworks.com>
 wrote:
> 
> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
 jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> 
> From the link:
> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
 covered
 with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
 the other
 dew drops.
> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
 dew
 drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
 conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
> 
> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
 graph (
> 
> --Anu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
 discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
> 
> I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
 on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
 [1].
> 
> In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of
 names:
> 
> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
 with
 the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
 (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
 chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia),
 in the
 chain theme as well)
> 
> I have researched those names lightly 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Jim Jagielski]

+1 keeping as-is.

> On Feb 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
> 
> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed to 
> proposing the project.
> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with 
> this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
> 
> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
> others, and it looks like we can go from there.
> 
> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava 
> Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
> interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on 
> Jira.
> 
> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
> approach.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Antoine
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
>> 
>> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
>> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
>> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
>> 
>> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
>> https://kava.io/
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
>> 
>>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>>> forget the original meaning.
>>> 
>>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>>> 
>>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
>>> name :)
>>> 
>>> - Blockava
>>> - Blockva
>>> - Chainava
>>> 
>>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Serge...
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
 
 Consensus Java :)
 
> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>>> wrote:
> 
> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
>>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
> 
> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
>> 
>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
>>> always go
>> with Apache Cava name.
>> 
>> - Henry
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme >> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you Anu.
>>> 
>>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
>>> agreeable.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
 On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
>>> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
>>> wrote:
 
 I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
 
 From the link:
 "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>>> covered
>>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>>> the other
>>> dew drops.
 And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
>>> dew
>>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
 
 And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
>>> graph (
 
 --Anu
 
 
 
 
 
 On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
 
 I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
>>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
>>> [1].
 
 In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of
>>> names:
 
 - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
>>> with
>>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
 - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
 - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia),
>>> in the
>>> chain theme as well)
 
 I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
>>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the
>>> guidelines to
>>> search across different open source communities.
 
 Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
>>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let
>>> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Greg Stein]

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:52 PM Kenneth Knowles  wrote:

> I think Kava is enough of a conflict that it will need to change,
> eventually. I think it is OK to keep it as Cava for entry into the
> incubator since it already exists but change ASAP:
>

Changing names is a real Pain for the Infra team. If you *know* you will
change it, then do that before we set stuff up for you, please.

Regards,
Greg Stein
Infrastructure Administrator, ASF

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Kenneth Knowles]

I think Kava is enough of a conflict that it will need to change,
eventually. I think it is OK to keep it as Cava for entry into the
incubator since it already exists but change ASAP:

 - Talk about "Apache Cava (incubating)" will not build the new project's
reputation as well (for example, I actually missed the switch from Onyx to
Nemo so it took me some time to take a look)
 - As a practical matter, a name change may (eventually) lead to various
code namespace moves. In some projects it happens ASAP and some never move
due to a large install base they don't want to disrupt. I think Cava seems
like the former.

Kenn

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:28 AM Antoine Toulme  wrote:

> First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.
>
> I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed
> to proposing the project.
> To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with
> this name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.
>
> We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and
> others, and it looks like we can go from there.
>
> John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named
> Kava Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
> https://github.com/Kava-Labs
> It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the
> interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
> I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on
> Jira.
>
> I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this
> approach.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> > On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament 
> wrote:
> >
> > If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to
> Apache, I
> > would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
> > presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
> >
> > However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
> > https://kava.io/
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
> >
> >> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
> >> forget the original meaning.
> >>
> >> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
> >>
> >> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
> >> name :)
> >>
> >> - Blockava
> >> - Blockva
> >> - Chainava
> >>
> >> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>  Serge...
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Consensus Java :)
> >>>
>  On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> >> wrote:
> 
>  I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
> >> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
> 
>  It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
> 
> > On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
> >> wrote:
> >
> > From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
> >
> > If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
> >> always go
> > with Apache Cava name.
> >
> > - Henry
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  >> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you Anu.
> >>
> >> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
> >> agreeable.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
> >> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or
> Indra
> >> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> >>>
> >>> From the link:
> >>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> >> covered
> >> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
> >> the other
> >> dew drops.
> >>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> >> dew
> >> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> >> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
> >>>
> >>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
> >> graph (
> >>>
> >>> --Anu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme" 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
> >> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
> >>>
> >>> I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
> >> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
> >> [1].
> >>>
> >>> In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of
> >> names:
> >>>
> >>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
> >> with
> >> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >>> - Winch (a 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Antoine Toulme]

First, a heartfelt thank you to all for participating in this discussion.

I am tempted to keep Cava _for now_ given this late feedback, and proceed to 
proposing the project.
To be more precise, I recommend we get the project into the incubator with this 
name. We can change the name of the project 3 to 6 months in.

We have so far received significant interest from the Apache community and 
others, and it looks like we can go from there.

John, good point on this website, kava.io. I note the company is named Kava 
Labs Inc. and their GitHub is Kava-Labs.
https://github.com/Kava-Labs
It also looks like their code is in the crypto domain, but more on the 
interchange/wallet side and written in Go and TypeScript.
I’ll add them to the list when performing the suitable name search item on Jira.

I am going to give everyone 48 hours to voice strong opinions against this 
approach.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:04 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> 
> If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
> would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
> presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava
> 
> However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
> https://kava.io/
> 
> John
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:
> 
>> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
>> forget the original meaning.
>> 
>> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>> 
>> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
>> name :)
>> 
>> - Blockava
>> - Blockva
>> - Chainava
>> 
>> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>> 
>> Regards,
>>  Serge...
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Consensus Java :)
>>> 
 On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
>> wrote:
 
 I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
>> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
 
 It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
 
> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
>> wrote:
> 
> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
> 
> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
>> always go
> with Apache Cava name.
> 
> - Henry
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme > wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Anu.
>> 
>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
>> agreeable.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
>> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>> 
>>> From the link:
>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
>> covered
>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
>> the other
>> dew drops.
>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
>> dew
>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>> 
>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
>> graph (
>>> 
>>> --Anu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
>>> 
>>> I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
>> [1].
>>> 
>>> In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of
>> names:
>>> 
>>> - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
>> with
>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>> - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>> - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia),
>> in the
>> chain theme as well)
>>> 
>>> I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the
>> guidelines to
>> search across different open source communities.
>>> 
>>> Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let
>> us
>> know as well.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>> [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>>> [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
>> 

Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[John D. Ament]

If the project is already known as Cava and is looking to move to Apache, I
would recommend starting off as Cava.  I can see that there's already a
presence for it - https://github.com/ConsenSys/cava

However, I can see there's a pretty strong conflict on the name -
https://kava.io/

John

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43 AM Serge Huber  wrote:

> I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
> forget the original meaning.
>
> So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"
>
> Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the
> name :)
>
> - Blockava
> - Blockva
> - Chainava
>
> Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)
>
> Regards,
>   Serge...
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > Consensus Java :)
> >
> > > On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands
> for “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
> > >
> > > It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
> > >
> > >> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
> > >>
> > >> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can
> always go
> > >> with Apache Cava name.
> > >>
> > >> - Henry
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thank you Anu.
> > >>>
> > >>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s
> agreeable.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Antoine
> > >>>
> >  On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer <
> aengin...@hortonworks.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > 
> >  I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
> > >>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> > 
> >  From the link:
> >  "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning
> covered
> > >>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all
> the other
> > >>> dew drops.
> >  And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other
> dew
> > >>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> > >>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
> > 
> >  And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or
> graph (
> > 
> >  --Anu
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> > 
> >   Hello all,
> > 
> >   As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
> > >>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
> > 
> >   I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
> > >>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines
> [1].
> > 
> >   In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of
> names:
> > 
> >   - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line
> with
> > >>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >   - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> > >>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> >   - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> > >>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia),
> in the
> > >>> chain theme as well)
> > 
> >   I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
> > >>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the
> guidelines to
> > >>> search across different open source communities.
> > 
> >   Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
> > >>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let
> us
> > >>> know as well.
> > 
> >   Cheers,
> > 
> >   Antoine
> > 
> >   [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
> >   [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
> > >>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
> >   [2]:
> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
> > 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Serge Huber]

I agree that it doesn't matter if it "meant" something, you can simply
forget the original meaning.

So it could mean "Cryptographic Java"

Here are other suggestions, because I like have the block and/or in the name :)

- Blockava
- Blockva
- Chainava

Please note I didn't do any proper name search for the above :)

Regards,
  Serge...

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:32 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>
> Consensus Java :)
>
> > On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> >
> > I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands for 
> > “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
> >
> > It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
> >
> >> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra  wrote:
> >>
> >> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
> >>
> >> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can always go
> >> with Apache Cava name.
> >>
> >> - Henry
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  >>
> >>> Thank you Anu.
> >>>
> >>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s 
> >>> agreeable.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Antoine
> >>>
>  On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
> >>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> 
>  From the link:
>  "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered
> >>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the 
> >>> other
> >>> dew drops.
>  And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> >>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> >>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
> 
>  And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (
> 
>  --Anu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
>   Hello all,
> 
>   As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
> >>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
> 
>   I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
> >>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].
> 
>   In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:
> 
>   - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> >>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>   - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> >>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>   - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> >>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
> >>> chain theme as well)
> 
>   I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
> >>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to
> >>> search across different open source communities.
> 
>   Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
> >>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us
> >>> know as well.
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Antoine
> 
>   [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>   [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
> >>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Jim Jagielski]

Consensus Java :)

> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:59 PM, Antoine Toulme  wrote:
> 
> I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands for 
> “ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.
> 
> It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra  wrote:
>> 
>> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
>> 
>> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can always go
>> with Apache Cava name.
>> 
>> - Henry
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme > 
>>> Thank you Anu.
>>> 
>>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s agreeable.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
 On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer 
>>> wrote:
 
 I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
 
 From the link:
 "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered
>>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other
>>> dew drops.
 And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
>>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
 
 And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (
 
 --Anu
 
 
 
 
 
 On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
 
  I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
>>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].
 
  In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:
 
  - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
>>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
  - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
  - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
>>> chain theme as well)
 
  I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
>>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to
>>> search across different open source communities.
 
  Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
>>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us
>>> know as well.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Antoine
 
  [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
  [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Antoine Toulme]

I explained it in the proposal and the original thread, Cava stands for 
“ConsenSys Java”, after Guava.

It’s not a bad name per se, so let’s add it to the proposals.

> On Feb 16, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Henry Saputra  wrote:
> 
> From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?
> 
> If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can always go
> with Apache Cava name.
> 
> - Henry
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  
>> Thank you Anu.
>> 
>> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s agreeable.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Antoine
>> 
>>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
>> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
>>> 
>>> From the link:
>>> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered
>> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other
>> dew drops.
>>> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
>> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
>> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
>>> 
>>> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (
>>> 
>>> --Anu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Hello all,
>>> 
>>>   As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
>> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
>>> 
>>>   I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
>> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].
>>> 
>>>   In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:
>>> 
>>>   - Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
>> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>>>   - Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
>> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
>>>   - Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
>> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
>> chain theme as well)
>>> 
>>>   I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
>> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to
>> search across different open source communities.
>>> 
>>>   Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
>> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us
>> know as well.
>>> 
>>>   Cheers,
>>> 
>>>   Antoine
>>> 
>>>   [0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
>>>   [1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
>>>   [2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk
>>> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Henry Saputra]

>From last thread, I was not sure why Cava was not a suitable name?

If there is a concern about trademarked name, the community can always go
with Apache Cava name.

- Henry

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 5:21 PM Antoine Toulme  Thank you Anu.
>
> I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s agreeable.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> > On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer 
> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra
> jal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> >
> > From the link:
> > "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered
> with dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other
> dew drops.
> > And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew
> drops in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist
> conception of the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
> >
> > And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (
> >
> > --Anu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> >
> >Hello all,
> >
> >As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal
> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
> >
> >I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals
> on a suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].
> >
> >In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:
> >
> >- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with
> the crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
> >- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires
> (Wikipedia) , in the chain theme)
> >- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a
> chain, track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the
> chain theme as well)
> >
> >I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used
> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to
> search across different open source communities.
> >
> >Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a
> rough consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us
> know as well.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Antoine
> >
> >[0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
> >[1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html <
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html>
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> >
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Antoine Toulme]

Thank you Anu.

I’ll add your proposal to mine and start a vote Monday if that’s agreeable.

Cheers,

Antoine

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Anu Engineer  wrote:
> 
> I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
> 
> From the link:
> "Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with 
> dew drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew 
> drops. 
> And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops 
> in that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of 
> the universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]
> 
> And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (
> 
> --Anu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:
> 
>Hello all,
> 
>As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal 
> discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].
> 
>I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals on a 
> suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].
> 
>In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:
> 
>- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
> crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
>- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) 
> , in the chain theme)
>- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
> track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain 
> theme as well)
> 
>I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used 
> heavily by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to 
> search across different open source communities.
> 
>Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a rough 
> consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us know as 
> well.
> 
>Cheers,
> 
>Antoine
> 
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Re: [Cava] Suitable name search

[Anu Engineer]

I would like to suggest “Jal”, in reference to Indra’s net (or Indra jal) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net

From the link:
"Imagine a multidimensional spider's web in the early morning covered with dew 
drops. And every dew drop contains the reflection of all the other dew drops. 
And, in each reflected dew drop, the reflections of all the other dew drops in 
that reflection. And so ad infinitum. That is the Buddhist conception of the 
universe in an image." –Alan Watts[1]

And for what it is worth, it is the ultimate connected chain or graph (

--Anu





On 2/13/19, 10:58 AM, "Antoine Toulme"  wrote:

Hello all,

As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal 
discussed last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].

I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals on a 
suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].

In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:

- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the 
crypto community unicorn punk theme [2].
- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) 
, in the chain theme)
- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, 
track or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme 
as well)

I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used heavily 
by an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to search across 
different open source communities.

Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a rough 
consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us know as well.

Cheers,

Antoine

[0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
[1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 

[2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk


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[Cava] Suitable name search

[Antoine Toulme]

Hello all,

As discussed previously, Cava is not a proper name for the proposal discussed 
last week on this list and published to the wiki [0].

I humbly would like to ask the community for feedback and proposals on a 
suitable name for this proposal, in line with the guidelines [1].

In preparation for this search, I have put together a list of names:

- Rainbow (after the name of my kid’s favorite toy, and in line with the crypto 
community unicorn punk theme [2].
- Winch (a mechanical device used to wind up or wind out wires (Wikipedia) , in 
the chain theme)
- Sprocket (a profiled wheel with teeth, or cogs, that mesh with a chain, track 
or other perforated or indented material. (Wikipedia), in the chain theme as 
well)

I have researched those names lightly and I have not seen them used heavily by 
an open source project in crypto. I followed the guidelines to search across 
different open source communities.

Please provide your own proposal and let’s work together towards a rough 
consensus. If one of the proposals above registers, please let us know as well.

Cheers,

Antoine

[0]: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CavaProposal
[1]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html 

[2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unicorn%20punk