Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-30 Thread Makoto Yui
> Apache projects (and podlings) don't have project leads. Let's say active podling PPMC member(s) instead. Makoto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-30 Thread Mark Thomas
On 30/11/2018 06:04, Makoto Yui wrote: > Justin, > > I think it's a great idea. Podling project leads know the up-to-date > ASF incubation process very well. Apache projects (and podlings) don't have project leads. > It helps finding active mentors. > > As a release manager and PPMC of an

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > 1. If you are an ASF member and they are automatically in* If you are an ASF member and ask to join the IPMC I meant to say. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-29 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, There’s two ways to join the IPMC: 1. If you are an ASF member and they are automatically in* 2. The current IPMC can vote on someone into the IPMC* The issue with 2 is that it hard to recognise people who want to be IPMC member, so my proposal is more about getting those people more easily

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-29 Thread Gosling Von
- I think we should explicitly look at the proposal and mentors listed and then express any concerns. I am not sure am I missing some important discussion for the qualification of the IPMC :-) I read some of the reply carefully and very agree with explicitly list some concerns when we guide

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-29 Thread Makoto Yui
Justin, I think it's a great idea. Podling project leads know the up-to-date ASF incubation process very well. It helps finding active mentors. As a release manager and PPMC of an incubator project, requiring more active mentor(s), I would be glad to give help the following podling projects. >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, So with some with some minor modification looks like this is all good. I’ll get a draft of the changes to go on our web site. If there’s anyone else who is not a member and think they have the experience to be an IPMC member please send to request to our private email list. Thanks, Justin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-15 Thread Liang Chen
Hi +1, I am chairman of TLP project and has been involved multiple incubating projects from start to finish, also was responsible for multiple releases as manager. I would be glad to give help if some new incubator projects require. Regards Liang Justin Mclean wrote > Hi, > > I looked at

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-15 Thread Henry Saputra
+1 to the new proposals. The key is to have new potential members to be VOTED in to IPMCs, meaning someone from existing IPMC should have know the criteria to be invited. - Henry On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:20 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > I looked at the board resolution for the creation

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-13 Thread Paul King
+1 to both from me too! On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 12:22 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 1:28 AM Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:20 AM Justin Mclean > wrote: > > > ...I propose this: > > > > > > If someone has done several of the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 1:28 AM Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:20 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > ...I propose this: > > > > If someone has done several of the following: > > - has been involved in an incubating project from start to finish > > - has been a release

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-10 Thread Willem Jiang
+1 to elected non-members to the IPMC. In this way, We could leverage hands from the PPMC member who has some experience podling process. >From my experience I learned a lot from the whole podling process even I mentored serval project before. Regards, Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-10 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Yes, and commitment is the key. The IPMC can fix this if we take some > examples. > > (1) We have elected non-members to the IPMC. I was one. We should be more > active in identifying merit. This is part of the issue, but I think with a large IPMC and a very large pool of potential

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-10 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Bertrand recommendation on having at least one ASF mentor or experienced mentor seems sensible to me. Dave it is the case that some experienced IPMC mentor dropout. we currently need more mentors to replace missing ones than we do for new incubating projects, so initial most of these

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2018, at 3:43 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:10 PM Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> Hi - >> ...I propose this: If someone has done several of the following: - has been involved in an incubating project from start to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-08 Thread Myrle Krantz
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:10 PM Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi - > > >> ...I propose this: > >> > >> If someone has done several of the following: > >> - has been involved in an incubating project from start to finish > >> - has been a release manager > >> - has assembled LICENSE and NOTICE files > >> -

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-07 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - >> ...I propose this: >> >> If someone has done several of the following: >> - has been involved in an incubating project from start to finish >> - has been a release manager >> - has assembled LICENSE and NOTICE files >> - has reviewed and voted on releases >> - has proposed or accepted

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:20 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...I propose this: > > If someone has done several of the following: > - has been involved in an incubating project from start to finish > - has been a release manager > - has assembled LICENSE and NOTICE files > - has reviewed and voted

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-07 Thread Atri Sharma
+1. I get asked to mentor projects too, but have this restriction of not being able to join the IPMC On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 3:13 PM, Sheng Wu wrote: > Hi Justin > > Very interesting proposal. And I like it, also willing to request for that > :) > > From my experience, several projects have

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I agree. This is a policy for the IPMC to determine and I think this will increase inclusion. We need mentors and of all types. +1 -- Kevin A. McGrail VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Kenneth Knowles
I like this. I had the (apparently accurate) impression that ASF membership was the usual route to podling mentorship. I'm very interested in mentorship generally and ways I can help out ASF - so they might someday intersect in the formal role of podling mentor. It is nice to see a path that is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
Great ideas, thanks Justin! Justin Mclean wrote on 11/6/18 3:20 AM: > Hi, > > I looked at the board resolution for the creation of the IPMC [1] and it says > nothing about how IPMC members should be added so from that I take it that > the IPMC can decide how it wants to do that. The IPMC is a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi Justin Very interesting proposal. And I like it, also willing to request for that :) >From my experience, several projects have invited me or involved me in, such >as Zipkin(Incubating) and IoTDB(In Incubator discussion). But because I can't >be podling project mentor, based on Apache