Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-24 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Right - many, many levels of provenance... provenance of source code is not very much different from provenance of workflow definitions. We already did quite a bit of work with that on a social level with our generic workflow sharing platform myExperiment - http://www.myexperiment.org/home --

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, Thanks for the clarifications. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes soiland-re...@cs.manchester.ac.uk wrote: ...Provenance exchange - I am thinking in particular if it would be possible to combine our W3C PROV-O provenance support - https://github.com/taverna/taverna-prov

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, I have already voted +1 on the incubation, but I have two nitpicks on the proposal: ...Taverna developer workshop (2014-10-30).. It's good to advertise here how people can join - I suppose that's

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Joyce
++ -Original Message- From: Stian Soiland-Reyes soiland-re...@cs.manchester.ac.uk Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 4:52 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-15 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 14/10/14 16:51, Marlon Pierce wrote: Hi all-- I'm a bit late on this but I would also like to serve as a mentor. I'm a PMC member of Apache Airavata and Apache Rave, and I've also served as a mentor for Apache Stratos. Marlon Marlon, Thank you for the offer - I've added you to the the

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-15 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
On 25 September 2014 17:34, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: Can you make sure a comprehensive list of those currently incompatible list of dependencies is included in your proposal. I have added them to http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Third-party+licenses and added references

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-15 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
On 25 September 2014 19:19, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote: Hi Stian, If you need a mentor, count me in. I actively contribute to Apache Airavata, and will be happy to bring our experiences from a similar journey. Infact Ross queried on airavata lists few years ago about potential

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-15 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Would any of the Taverna mentors be interested in joining the Taverna Development Workshop at the end of the month? http://taverna2014.eventbrite.co.uk/ http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+Open+Development+Workshop I know most of you are not really based near Manchester - but

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-15 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow Would any of the Taverna mentors be interested in joining the Taverna Development Workshop at the end of the month? http://taverna2014.eventbrite.co.uk/ http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-10-14 Thread Marlon Pierce
Hi all-- I'm a bit late on this but I would also like to serve as a mentor. I'm a PMC member of Apache Airavata and Apache Rave, and I've also served as a mentor for Apache Stratos. Marlon On 9/26/14, 10:18 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote: On 25/09/14 19:19, Suresh Marru wrote: If you need a

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-28 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow Proposal now moved to the Apache wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TavernaProposal I just used copy-paste - so there might be some mistakes introduced - feel free to correct. I will be away for 2 weeks

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-26 Thread Andy Seaborne
On 25/09/14 19:19, Suresh Marru wrote: If you need a mentor, count me in. I actively contribute to Apache Airavata, and will be happy to bring our experiences from a similar journey. Infact Ross queried on airavata lists few years ago about potential taverna move to airavata/apache(Ross

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-26 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Thanks, Andy, and all who responded and volunteered (yay!). I'm sure Shoaib will respond, but as I have been the main maven and build guy on the project I guess I should also chip in. I'll try to find time to respond properly to the excellent questions next week, in between my baby duties. Some

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-26 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
: David Nalley da...@gnsa.us Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:34 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Shoaib Sufi shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Suresh Marru
Hi Sitan, I am also interested in knowing your responses to some of the questions below. Looking through this list archives you will find that the issue of homogenous developers comes up every now and then. Its a welcoming move from Taverna team to pursue ASF as a potential home, but its

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
On 23 September 2014 18:54, Marlon Pierce marpi...@iu.edu wrote: * Can you say more about why you want to take Taverna to the ASF? As we say in the proposal, one of our goals of moving to ASF is to make it more obvious that we want to run an open development process. So far we have effectively

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
In addition to what I said to Marion, One of the things we want to achieve in the short-term is to get non-Manchester developers comfortable with working with the code base. We already have a fair amount of documentation on this - http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Developers+Guide

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
...@cs.manchester.ac.uk Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:03 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Shoaib Sufi shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow On 23 September 2014 18:54

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Proposal now moved to the Apache wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TavernaProposal I just used copy-paste - so there might be some mistakes introduced - feel free to correct. I will be away for 2 weeks - but my colleague Shoaib Sufi should have signed up to this list to assist in any

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
++ -Original Message- From: Stian Soiland-Reyes soiland-re...@cs.manchester.ac.uk Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:19 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
: [Proposal] Taverna workflow Proposal now moved to the Apache wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TavernaProposal I just used copy-paste - so there might be some mistakes introduced - feel free to correct. I will be away for 2 weeks - but my colleague Shoaib Sufi should have signed up

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Suresh Srinivas
This is an exciting project. If you you need a volunteer, I am available. My interests are from my close participation in related projects - Hadoop, Falcon, and Storm. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes soiland-re...@cs.manchester.ac.uk wrote: I hereby present the Apache

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread David Nalley
* Do you have any third party dependencies in the Taverna core that have incompatible licenses (like GPL)? Unfortunately we do have a few of those, yes - the fact that we have to move away from those was one of the things that we discussed a lot in the Taverna community. Can you make sure

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow [..snip..] I see two paragraphs here that don't answer the question posed. Where will plugin development happen in an ideal world? This is an implementation detail and can be dealt with during Incubation? One followup question - what kind of build/CI resources

RE: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
...@jpl.nasa.gov Sent: ‎9/‎25/‎2014 10:09 AM To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Shoaib Sufimailto:shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow Hi Guys, -Original Message- From: David Nalley da...@gnsa.us Reply-To: general

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980)mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov Sent: ‎9/‎25/‎2014 10:09 AM To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Shoaib Sufimailto:shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow Hi Guys

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
, Chris A (3980)mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov Sent: ?9/?25/?2014 10:09 AM To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Shoaib Sufimailto:shoaib.s...@manchester.ac.uk Subject: Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow Hi Guys, -Original Message- From: David

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-25 Thread Suresh Marru
Hi Stian, Thank you for very nice elaborations. I really liked your honest views on where things are and where you want to be. As you might have experiences with Jena and other projects, apache is about community. It will take significant work to get pass the current tone of us vs them to “we.

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-24 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
Thanks a lot - of course we would love to have you as mentors! I have added you both at http://dev.mygrid.org.uk/wiki/display/developer/Taverna+incubator+proposal#Tavernaincubatorproposal-NominatedMentors I'll transfer it to the incubator wiki as soon as I get access. On 23 September 2014

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-23 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
WOW that is so awesome guys! Taverna at Apache FTW!! Let me know if you need a mentor, I'm in! :) Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Joyce
+1 this is really great news. Would happily help where I could as a mentor as well. On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: WOW that is so awesome guys! Taverna at Apache FTW!! Let me know if you need a mentor, I'm in! :) Cheers, Chris

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-23 Thread Marlon Pierce
Thanks, Stian, for submitting a well-developed proposal and for your interest in Apache. I have a few questions: * Can you say more about why you want to take Taverna to the ASF? * What is your strategy for increasing the diversity of your committer base? * Do you have any third party

Re: [Proposal] Taverna workflow

2014-09-23 Thread sebb
On 23 September 2014 13:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes soiland-re...@cs.manchester.ac.uk wrote: I hereby present the Apache Incubator proposal for the project Taverna. Also available in rich text in the Taverna wiki (with more hyperlinks!):