Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
i've had time to take a brief look at the mailing lists and IMHO this matter needs to be taken private (and i started the balls rolling for that). i will issue a formal veto with both IPMC and legal hats on in due course. i just wanted to know that i'm going to unsubscribe this email address from these lists until this matter has been sorted out. if you really feel you must contact me privately, please use my apache address and note that i will be copying in board and legal on any communications. i would much prefer members to use the appropriate private lists. committers are going to need to ask their mentors. (sorry guys this needs to be take private. the mentors will let you know when we have a solution. i think ESME's really cool. we've resolved similar issues before and i'm confident of a happy ending but you may have to put up with some short term inconvenience.) - robert On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Ethan Jewett esjew...@gmail.com wrote: Robert, can you please clarify your concerns: ...2. You are stating that having the notice in the file is dangerous. How?... This vote suggests the following notice: 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added: Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation. This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). Apart from ESME instead of foo, I fail to see what could be wrong in that ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: i've had time to take a brief look at the mailing lists and IMHO this matter needs to be taken private (and i started the balls rolling for that). i will issue a formal veto with both IPMC and legal hats on in due course. i just wanted to know that i'm going to unsubscribe this email address from these lists until this matter has been sorted out So you were not here when we discussed this, now you jump in, say it's all wrong, and say you're going to discuss it behind the curtain? Not fun at all. And I'm not copying you on this reply, if you're not here anymore that's too bad. ESME folks, hope you're able to continue working without being too much disturbed by this, based on the recent discussions here and especially on legal-discuss I think Robert is blowing this way out of proportion. I'll let you know when we're back from fight club ;-) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
Hi Anne, On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: ...I hope this issue will resolve itself quickly so that we hopefully can get back on track Now that Robert has withdrawn his veto (see [VETO] Emse veto invalid), feel free to tally this vote once the 72 hour period is over (which might be the case already). Make sure to account for votes on both the esme and incubator lists, and please note binding votes from Incubator PMC members (listed at http://incubator.apache.org/whoweare.html though that's not usually 100% up to date, but people can fix that in the tally if needed). Thanks! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: ...I suggest you review the thread that was provided and then see if you want to reconsider your veto As this vote is not about a technical issue, I don't think there are vetos - we should have explicitely specified that this is a majority vote. Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? Just a strong disagreement. -- Gianugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? I might be thick or gmail buggy, but where is Gianugo's -1 ? I can't find it... Regards Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
Check his email from Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Santiago Gala santiago.g...@gmail.com wrote: Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? I might be thick or gmail buggy, but where is Gianugo's -1 ? I can't find it... Regards Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
Definitely a case of buggy gmail/our list software, it is not here... I'm loosing more and more emails messages without any warning, and I'd like to know if it is trouble in our infrastructure or in gmail. Anybody knows? Regards Santiago 2010/1/20 Richard Hirsch hirsch.d...@gmail.com: Check his email from Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:06 PM On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Santiago Gala santiago.g...@gmail.com wrote: Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? I might be thick or gmail buggy, but where is Gianugo's -1 ? I can't find it... Regards Santiago - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Santiago Gala santiago.g...@gmail.com wrote: Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? I might be thick or gmail buggy, but where is Gianugo's -1 ? I can't find it... It's on esme-dev only, wasn't CCed here: http://markmail.org/message/njvhvrtvtqm4d2ix -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Santiago Gala santiago.g...@gmail.com wrote: Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? I might be thick or gmail buggy, but where is Gianugo's -1 ? I can't find it... I just replied to the wrong email which wasn't cc'd here, apologies. So let me restate here: it's a non-binding, non-vetoeing -1 based on the fact I think this solution is (a) incompatible with our own policy and (b) makes a special case for an individual which is both unfair (towards people and organizations who contributed significantly more) and a precedent for others to claim they should receive the same treatment. -- Gianugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Gianugo Rabellino gian...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Santiago Gala santiago.g...@gmail.com wrote: Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? I might be thick or gmail buggy, but where is Gianugo's -1 ? I can't find it... I just replied to the wrong email which wasn't cc'd here, apologies. So let me restate here: it's a non-binding, non-vetoeing -1 based on [...] I should add: this is not an attempt to rehash a discussion that has been going on forever, merely a due justification for a -1 as my arguments have been expressed on esme-dev and not here. -- Gianugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
Let me be clear too, I'm not trying to mess with the vote in any way, just wondering if my email account was going nuts, as I've seen a couple of gmail hiccups in the last days and was over-sensitive... :) 2010/1/20 Gianugo Rabellino gian...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Gianugo Rabellino gian...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Santiago Gala santiago.g...@gmail.com wrote: Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? I might be thick or gmail buggy, but where is Gianugo's -1 ? I can't find it... I just replied to the wrong email which wasn't cc'd here, apologies. So let me restate here: it's a non-binding, non-vetoeing -1 based on [...] I should add: this is not an attempt to rehash a discussion that has been going on forever, merely a due justification for a -1 as my arguments have been expressed on esme-dev and not here. -- Gianugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: ...I suggest you review the thread that was provided and then see if you want to reconsider your veto As this vote is not about a technical issue, I don't think there are vetos - we should have explicitely specified that this is a majority vote. Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? i consider making claims about third party copyright ownership rather than a statement of fact is positively dangerous from a legal perspective so, it's a legal team veto until i have chance to review (my exam is tomorrow morning so i should be able to find some time in the afternoon)... Ok, this should leave enough time for you to review within this vote's 72 hours duration ;-) Please review this thread on the legal-discuss list, in particular: http://markmail.org/thread/fy3gfbgezgkcq44j Several experienced folks have voiced their opinions there, we didn't just make this up out of thin air. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
(ccing both lists now..) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue ESME-47. +1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding) -Bertrand 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source file: /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership. * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0 * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at * * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 * * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS, * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and * limitations under the License. */ 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added: Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation. This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/%3cf767f0601001110028n54d85d03xaf703119fa08d...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
Not my day for multi-tasking apparently, sorry... Apache ESME of course. +1 On 19 Jan, 2010, at 12:25 , Richard Hirsch wrote: The NOTICE should say Apache ESME instead of Apache Foo +1 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: (ccing both lists now..) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue ESME-47. +1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding) -Bertrand 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source file: /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership. * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0 * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at * * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 * * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS, * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and * limitations under the License. */ 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added: Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation. This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/%3cf767f0601001110028n54d85d03xaf703119fa08d...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
+1 Let's get this finalized and move on. Dan On Tue January 19 2010 6:17:16 am Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: (ccing both lists now..) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue ESME-47. +1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding) -Bertrand 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source file: /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership. * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0 * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at * * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 * * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS, * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and * limitations under the License. */ 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added: Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation. This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/%3 cf767f0601001110028n54d85d03xaf703119fa08d...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org http://www.dankulp.com/blog - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
Robert, We have already had a lengthy discussion on legal-discuss: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/thread Look for the Committer refuses to remove copyright notices in source (ESME-47),how best to solve? thread. I am not sure if this is the same list as the legal-private list you mention? The text in this vote is a suggestion from William Rowe: http://markmail.org/message/q6yweleer2voqvd3 (which no one on the legal-list objected to) /Anne On 19 Jan, 2010, at 17:51 , Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue ESME-47. snip 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ ipmc-hatlegal-hatianal if this language has not been cleared with our lawyers on legal-private then : * i'm -1 on this phrasing * please raise a legal JIRA for appropriate language /ianal/legal-hat/ipmc-hat the reason for this veto is that i believe that this phrasing is 1. potentially untrue for example, if at some future time someone decides to revert all the relevant commits - or in time the code is so extensively revised then no portions of the code will be subject to that copyright and the statement will be untrue. 2. potentially dangerous for example it could be read as a claim rather than a statement AIUI (please jump in if i'm wrong) some source files was derived from originals that contained the notice Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC. something along the lines below seems to me more truthful: /* * This document was derived from an original containing the following copyright notice: * * Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC * */ but IMO this is a job for a lawyer - robert
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
+1 Daniel Kulp wrote: +1 Let's get this finalized and move on. Dan On Tue January 19 2010 6:17:16 am Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: (ccing both lists now..) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue ESME-47. +1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding) -Bertrand 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source file: /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership. * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0 * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at * * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 * * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS, * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and * limitations under the License. */ 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added: Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation. This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/%3 cf767f0601001110028n54d85d03xaf703119fa08d...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré (Nanthrax) BuildProcess/AutoDeploy Project Leader http://buildprocess.sourceforge.net j...@nanthrax.net PGP : 17D4F086 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Jan 19, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue ESME-47. snip 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ ipmc-hatlegal-hatianal if this language has not been cleared with our lawyers on legal-private then : * i'm -1 on this phrasing * please raise a legal JIRA for appropriate language As others have said, this has been discussed at length on legal-discuss. The lawyers have expressed their opinion (that it mostly doesn't matter). I think requesting a Jira issue for this is a bad idea because a) it is highly unlikely that the result will be different and b) legal Jira issues aren't noted for being resolved quickly and c) Jira issues are resolved by lawyers. I suggest you review the thread that was provided and then see if you want to reconsider your veto. Ralph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
+1 Craig On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: This issue was discussed extensively on legal-discuss, this proposal matches my understanding of the consensus opinion reached there. Here's my +1 (IPMC binding) --kevan On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: (ccing both lists now..) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe yoji...@gmail.com wrote: PPMC and IPMC, please re-vote on the following regarding copyright issue ESME-47. +1 on what's suggested below (IPMC binding) -Bertrand 1. The Apache license block will be added at the beginning of each source file: /* Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more * contributor license agreements. See the NOTICE file distributed with * this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership. * The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0 * (the License); you may not use this file except in compliance with * the License. You may obtain a copy of the License at * * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 * * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software * distributed under the License is distributed on an AS IS BASIS, * WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied. * See the License for the specific language governing permissions and * limitations under the License. */ 2. The Apache License block will be followed by a legacy comment (Only in files where the WorldWide Conferencing notice currently exists, except any files where user dpp has not made any contribution): /* * Portions Copyright 2009 WorldWide Conferencing, LLC */ 3. A NOTICE file with the following text will be added: Apache Foo Incubating Code Copyright 2010 The Apache Software Foundation. This product includes software developed at The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/). For details, please see this legal-discuss mailing list thread: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201001.mbox/%3cf767f0601001110028n54d85d03xaf703119fa08d...@mail.gmail.com%3e - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Copyright issue (ESME-47)
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: ...I suggest you review the thread that was provided and then see if you want to reconsider your veto As this vote is not about a technical issue, I don't think there are vetos - we should have explicitely specified that this is a majority vote. Robert and Gianugo, did you mean to veto this with your -1s, or just express your disagreement with the majority? -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
