Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2004-12-29 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 00:52 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: Worringly, this is just the flotsam lying around at the top level :) turbine.old/ Old copy of Turbine site. You can nuke that. Sorry about it. Regards Henning -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen

Re: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-29 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Martin Cooper wrote: The problem I have with this change is that it pretty much guarantees that people will completely skip reading anything about the fact that they are downloading from a mirror site, and especially the fact that they need to verify the signature of what they download. If

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-29 Thread Mark R. Diggory
I'm late to this discussion, so pardon if I'm rehashing something said earlier. It would be very advantageous to consider how the ASF Repository factors into the the download picture. I've been hoping to see some integration between the contents of dist and those of dist/java-repository. The

Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.

2004-12-29 Thread Phil Steitz
Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: I think, if we had a standard template for download pages, each subproject could have its own download page, something like we have for Struts:

3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
I'm a fan of the www.apache.org look and how it gives us a lot more usability in terms of available column space. I'd like to change Jakarta to the 3-columns (though not the lf or anything). Switching to 3-columns means less space in the center for content, however I also want to simplify the

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
Here's my mockup proposal: http://www.apache.org/~bayard/mock-jakarta-frontpage.html Changes: 3 column Strikethrough of links/pages I'd like to kill. Less news. Removal of Related section (aim is to make this a new page). Rewrite of the welcome message to hopefully say the same main

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:01:27 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my mockup proposal: http://www.apache.org/~bayard/mock-jakarta-frontpage.html Changes: 3 column Strikethrough of links/pages I'd like to kill. Less news. Removal of Related section (aim is

RE: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
http://www.apache.org/~bayard/mock-jakarta-frontpage.html We might consider changing some of the wording if you are going to refer to projects growing up and leaving. We could refer to Jakarta as a federation of projects, some of which are under the oversight of the Jakarta PMC, and some of

RE: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: http://www.apache.org/~bayard/mock-jakarta-frontpage.html We might consider changing some of the wording if you are going to refer to projects growing up and leaving. We could refer to Jakarta as a federation of projects, some of which are under the

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:01:27 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my mockup proposal: http://www.apache.org/~bayard/mock-jakarta-frontpage.html This looks OK. The one thing I would change, though, is to get rid of the indentation

An Interview with God

2004-12-29 Thread Bernhard Fastenrath
An Interview with God: http://www.ikfk.de/interview.html (2004/12/29 04:00:52) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fasten (2004/12/29 04:00:52) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Fasten (2004/12/29 04:00:52) http://homepage.mac.com/bfastenrath/interview.html (2004/12/29 04:00:52)

Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2004-12-29 Thread Martin Cooper
I zapped the 'userGuide' file. I don't see any point in keeping old sites that are being redirected away from anyway. Unless I'm mistaken, nobody will ever see them. However, it would be good to check with the projects that have moved away from Jakarta, to make sure, since they may not be

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:01:27 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my mockup proposal: http://www.apache.org/~bayard/mock-jakarta-frontpage.html In case anyone wonders, I've dropped Martin Poeschl's 'In Memoriam' from the front page, but plan to have it at the top of the

Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: However, it would be good to check with the projects that have moved away from Jakarta, to make sure, since they may not be monitoring this list, and they just might care. ;-) I'll initially be emailing the owners of each file/directory asking them to

Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2004-12-29 Thread David H. DeWolf
Martin Cooper wrote: I don't see any point in keeping old sites that are being redirected away from anyway. Unless I'm mistaken, nobody will ever see them. However, it would be good to check with the projects that have moved away from Jakarta, to make sure, since they may not be monitoring this

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread James Mason
Henri, Looks good. Big improvement, I think :). I especially like how the third column brings more information above the status bar. A few comments: 1) The first paragraph sounds more like it's describing the ASF than describing Jakarta. A suggestion: - The Jakarta

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, James Mason wrote: Henri, Looks good. Big improvement, I think :). I especially like how the third column brings more information above the status bar. A few comments: Thanks :) 1) The first paragraph sounds more like it's describing the ASF than describing Jakarta. A

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:41:00 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, James Mason wrote: Henri, Looks good. Big improvement, I think :). I especially like how the third column brings more information above the status bar. A few comments: Thanks :)

Re: 3-column jakarta.apache.org?

2004-12-29 Thread James Mason
Comments below. On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 21:41 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, James Mason wrote: Henri, Looks good. Big improvement, I think :). I especially like how the third column brings more information above the status bar. A few comments: Thanks :) 1) The

Re: Mess in jakarta.apache.org/

2004-12-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, David H. DeWolf wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: I don't see any point in keeping old sites that are being redirected away from anyway. Unless I'm mistaken, nobody will ever see them. However, it would be good to check with the projects that have moved away from Jakarta, to make