Hi Alex,
You ask why I think it's important to distinguish between the
characteristics of a remote call and a local one.
One of the nicest things on this topic I found is a paper from Sun
themselves -
http://research.sun.com/technical-reports/1994/sml1_tr-94-29.pdf
From the date, I would think
Hi Tim!
This is good news indeed: someone took the time to actually read a message
and respond to it, instead of sending 100's of nonsensical one-liners ;)
Answer inline.
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De: Tim Hyde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Hi Alex,
You ask why I think it's important to
I agree Jeff; though for such a smart container to work in an elegant way
I'd prefer to develop the beans in a non-distributed manner and the smart
container do the rest - distributing what it thinks makes sense - along the
EOB / AltRMI lines. Not code to a server side componet API like EJB.
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Albeit at the expense of scalability
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 09:51, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
I think that the key bit
,
Paulo Gaspar
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From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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So what if you need to move an object that is defined as local to be
load balanced
Perhaps the question to ask is how are real sites providing real
scalabilty without resorting to Enterprise JavaBeans?
Take google.com and yahoo.com for example,
Yahoo offers a signficant number of remote, multi-user applications like
the ones we would like to provide to our own clients. Are
.
We keep trying to get as close to having them as possible but...
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
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Those are both search engines with non-critical data update issues. You
do need an example with more business-logic oriented type
functionality. I could mock something like those up with Lucene just
with a few routers and pushing the indicies to the mirrored systems.
This doesn't answer the
yahoo.com goes way beyond a search engine:
Email, address books, auctions, classified ads, file storage, calendars
and shared calendars, personalized portals for like 27 different sub
applications, the list goes on.
Yahoo is delivering a vast number of dynamic applications to an
incredible
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 10:46, Ted Husted wrote:
yahoo.com goes way beyond a search engine:
Email, address books, auctions, classified ads, file storage, calendars
and shared calendars, personalized portals for like 27 different sub
applications, the list goes on.
Yahoo is delivering a
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yahoo.com goes way beyond a search engine:
Email, address books, auctions, classified ads, file storage,
calendars
and shared calendars, personalized portals for like 27
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 11:07, Ted Husted wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 10:46, Ted Husted wrote:
yahoo.com goes way beyond a search engine:
Email, address books, auctions, classified ads, file storage, calendars
and shared calendars, personalized portals for
(too bad I'll be boycotting Yahoo soon because they use pop-up ads which
I consider SOoo unprofessional)
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 11:00, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 11:07, Ted Husted wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 10:46, Ted Husted wrote:
distributed without careful
consideration.
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So what if you need to move an object that is defined as local
A 10,000 node linux cluster. http://www.google.com/press/highlights.html
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:58 AM
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As far as I can remember
On 2/1/02 8:57 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps the question to ask is how are real sites providing real
scalabilty without resorting to Enterprise JavaBeans?
Take google.com and yahoo.com for example,
Yahoo offers a signficant number of remote, multi-user applications
From: Steve Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Most objects don't work if they are made distributed without careful
consideration.
I wonder if that has to be the case. Right now, our distributed object
containers are blissfully stupid. We (humans) can point at any
individual class or
Albeit at the expense of scalability
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 09:51, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
I think that the key bit is:
and it is a mistake to try to program
as though a
remote call had the same characteristics as a local one.
Your app will always be more robust if you do NOT ignore the
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