Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

2006-08-27 Thread Phil Steitz
Dennis Lundberg wrote:
 Phil Steitz wrote:
 Henri Yandell wrote:

 On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Dennis Lundberg wrote:

 Phil Steitz wrote:
 Thanks, Dennis.  That helps and I agree with your arguments for
 inheritence in genera;.
  But why a Jakarta parent?
 I'll leave that one for Henri to answer.
 Do I look like I know what I'm doing? :)

 The Jakarta pom is there because it seemed like a good idea to share
 things between Jakarta m2 projects and not just Commons ones - or at
 least to try and encourage that sharing. Though I had thought that the
 mailing lists in the parent would appear in the children and that's
 not happened.

 It didn't seem like it would be damaging to represent the current
 structure and Brett didn't run screaming when I asked him :)

 I'm not tied to it though - just throwing energy at the commons to m2
 problems.
 Can someone less m2-newbie than me pls publish the jakarta and commons
 parents to the m2-snapshot-repo?  The sandbox parent appears to be
 there, but the others are not and they have to be manually installed to
 get any commons m2 builds to work.   That makes it pretty hard for the
 non-initiate to build the components (e.g. [pipeline]) that are dropping
 m1 poms.

 Done.
 I have deployed the poms jakarta, commons and commons-sandbox.

Thanks, Dennis!

Now I am confused, though, since we seem to have both commons-sandbox
and commons-sandbox-parent and the sanbox m2 builds seem to be evenly
split between them, though all (other than pipeline) are listed as
modules of commons-sandbox.  Are these for different purposes?

Also, do we really want to have the individual components set up as modules?

Still in learning mode here...

Phil


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Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

2006-08-27 Thread Dennis Lundberg

Phil Steitz wrote:

Dennis Lundberg wrote:

Phil Steitz wrote:

Henri Yandell wrote:

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Dennis Lundberg wrote:


Phil Steitz wrote:

Thanks, Dennis.  That helps and I agree with your arguments for
inheritence in genera;.
 But why a Jakarta parent?

I'll leave that one for Henri to answer.

Do I look like I know what I'm doing? :)

The Jakarta pom is there because it seemed like a good idea to share
things between Jakarta m2 projects and not just Commons ones - or at
least to try and encourage that sharing. Though I had thought that the
mailing lists in the parent would appear in the children and that's
not happened.

It didn't seem like it would be damaging to represent the current
structure and Brett didn't run screaming when I asked him :)

I'm not tied to it though - just throwing energy at the commons to m2
problems.

Can someone less m2-newbie than me pls publish the jakarta and commons
parents to the m2-snapshot-repo?  The sandbox parent appears to be
there, but the others are not and they have to be manually installed to
get any commons m2 builds to work.   That makes it pretty hard for the
non-initiate to build the components (e.g. [pipeline]) that are dropping
m1 poms.

Done.
I have deployed the poms jakarta, commons and commons-sandbox.


Thanks, Dennis!

Now I am confused, though, since we seem to have both commons-sandbox
and commons-sandbox-parent and the sanbox m2 builds seem to be evenly
split between them, though all (other than pipeline) are listed as
modules of commons-sandbox.  Are these for different purposes?


commons-sandbox-parent was set up by Brett when he introduced the Maven 
2 build in the sandbox.


commons-sandbox was set up by Henri as part of the Jakarta Maven 2 setup.

So I guess we should be moving from commons-sandbox-parent to 
commons-sandbox. Perhaps Henri can comment on this.



Also, do we really want to have the individual components set up as modules?


I don't think so. After I had deployed the pom, Maven wanted to deploy 
*all* of the sandbox components. At this point I simply canceled the 
rest of the deploy.



Still in learning mode here...

Phil



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Re: [m2 config] was: Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

2006-08-27 Thread Craig McClanahan

On 8/27/06, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


snip/

Dennis Lundberg wrote:

I don't think so. After I had deployed the pom, Maven wanted to deploy
*all* of the sandbox components. At this point I simply canceled the
rest of the deploy.



By the way, there is a technique to avoid this problem .. mvn -N deploy
will only deploy the POM in the directory you're executing the command from,
while mvn deploy does that POM and all its modules.

Craig

Thanks again, Dennis.   Let's take this to commons-dev now.


Sorry, all, about all the noise.

Phil
 Still in learning mode here...

 Phil




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RE: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

2006-08-11 Thread Phil Steitz
Thanks, Dennis.  That helps and I agree with your arguments for inheritence in 
genera;.
 
But why a Jakarta parent?  And can you answer the second question about 
addressing?  I am -0 on doing anything that cements Jakarta into the 
namespace above commons artifacts.  Sorry if this has been discussed and agreed 
and I just missed it.
 
Phil



From: Dennis Lundberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 8/11/2006 9:36 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml



Phil Steitz wrote:
 Henri Yandell wrote:
 First few commit messages bounced on this btw, until I fixed that up.
 It's a maven2
 Hen,

 Can you enlighten the rest of us as to what this is for and what, if
 any, implications it has on how we address maven2 artifacts originating
 in jakarta projects?

 Phil

snip/

The purpose of having a parent pom is to reduce the amount of
information you need to put in the pom of a specific project.

It also makes sure that all projects us the *same* information for
certain things. These things are put in the parent. An example of this
is which plugins *all* projects must use. Each project can then add more
plugins if they so desire.

Now I know some of you are preparing to throw in arguments about how we
tried to do this with Maven 1 and it failed. Before you do there is one
crucial difference. In Maven 1 the parent had to reside somewhere within
the same file system as your project. In Maven 2 the parent pom is
published to a Maven repository. It is then downloaded like any other
artifact by Maven automatically. So there will be no need to check out
jakarta-build from svn and putting it in the exact correct location on
your own machine.

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Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

2006-08-11 Thread Dennis Lundberg

Phil Steitz wrote:

Thanks, Dennis.  That helps and I agree with your arguments for inheritence in 
genera;.
 
But why a Jakarta parent?


I'll leave that one for Henri to answer.


And can you answer the second question about addressing?  I am -0 on doing anything that 
cements Jakarta into the namespace above commons artifacts.  Sorry if this 
has been discussed and agreed and I just missed it.


As it is currently done the namespace for commons artifacts is and will 
be org.apache.commons, so there's no jakarta in there. The pom for 
commons does have a parent which is currently the jakarta pom. If 
Jakarta would be dissolved, that could easily be changed to something 
else, say the ASF pom.


 
Phil




From: Dennis Lundberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 8/11/2006 9:36 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml



Phil Steitz wrote:

Henri Yandell wrote:

First few commit messages bounced on this btw, until I fixed that up.
It's a maven2

Hen,

Can you enlighten the rest of us as to what this is for and what, if
any, implications it has on how we address maven2 artifacts originating
in jakarta projects?

Phil


snip/

The purpose of having a parent pom is to reduce the amount of
information you need to put in the pom of a specific project.

It also makes sure that all projects us the *same* information for
certain things. These things are put in the parent. An example of this
is which plugins *all* projects must use. Each project can then add more
plugins if they so desire.

Now I know some of you are preparing to throw in arguments about how we
tried to do this with Maven 1 and it failed. Before you do there is one
crucial difference. In Maven 1 the parent had to reside somewhere within
the same file system as your project. In Maven 2 the parent pom is
published to a Maven repository. It is then downloaded like any other
artifact by Maven automatically. So there will be no need to check out
jakarta-build from svn and putting it in the exact correct location on
your own machine.

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Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

2006-08-11 Thread Henri Yandell



On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Dennis Lundberg wrote:


Phil Steitz wrote:
Thanks, Dennis.  That helps and I agree with your arguments for inheritence 
in genera;.

 But why a Jakarta parent?


I'll leave that one for Henri to answer.


Do I look like I know what I'm doing? :)

The Jakarta pom is there because it seemed like a good idea to share 
things between Jakarta m2 projects and not just Commons ones - or at least 
to try and encourage that sharing. Though I had thought that the mailing 
lists in the parent would appear in the children and that's not happened.


It didn't seem like it would be damaging to represent the current 
structure and Brett didn't run screaming when I asked him :)


I'm not tied to it though - just throwing energy at the commons to m2 
problems.


Hen

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Re: svn commit: r430653 - /jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

2006-08-10 Thread Henri Yandell


First few commit messages bounced on this btw, until I fixed that up. It's 
a maven2 parent pom for Jakarta projects. Created under advice from Brett 
on #maven :)


Hen

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Author: bayard
Date: Thu Aug 10 21:03:21 2006
New Revision: 430653

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=430653view=rev
Log:
not released yet, so giving it a dev version of 1-SNAPSHOT

Modified:
   jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml

Modified: jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml?rev=430653r1=430652r2=430653view=diff
==
--- jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml (original)
+++ jakarta/jakarta-build/trunk/pom.xml Thu Aug 10 21:03:21 2006
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
  artifactIdjakarta-parent/artifactId
  packagingpom/packaging
  !-- TODO: dummy version. In Maven 2.1, this will be auto-versioned being a 
generic parent --
-  version1/version
+  version1-SNAPSHOT/version
  nameApache Jakarta/name
  urlhttp://jakarta.apache.org//url
  inceptionYear1999/inceptionYear



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