Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Haney
ionut cucu wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:59:02 +0200 Man, I've opened up a HUGE can o'worms here. I didn't mean to. But back to the reason for the post, I cannot find the correct KDE4.1 overlay. I read that it was kdesvn-portage, but it's not that I can tell. So, if it's not there, where

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-02 Thread Beso
2008/6/2 Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ionut cucu wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:59:02 +0200 Man, I've opened up a HUGE can o'worms here. I didn't mean to. But back to the reason for the post, I cannot find the correct KDE4.1 overlay. I read that it was kdesvn-portage, but it's not that

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-02 Thread Mark Haney
Beso wrote: 2008/6/2 Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ionut cucu wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:59:02 +0200 Man, I've opened up a HUGE can o'worms here. I didn't mean to. But back to the reason for the post, I cannot find the correct KDE4.1 overlay. I read that it was kdesvn-portage, but

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-02 Thread Beso
2008/6/2 Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beso wrote: 2008/6/2 Mark Haney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ionut cucu wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:59:02 +0200 Man, I've opened up a HUGE can o'worms here. I didn't mean to. But back to the reason for the post, I cannot find the correct KDE4.1

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-01 Thread Duncan
Richard Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 21:54:03 -0400: but you can go one better. When paludis dies it can be asked to create a resume script - a command line that will resume where it left off. This will include all the packages

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-01 Thread Duncan
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 21:25:42 +0200: http://www.pkgcore.org/trac/pkgcore/wiki/Features http://www.pkgcore.org/trac/pkgcore/doc/doc/getting-started.rst Thanks. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-01 Thread Duncan
David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:17:26 +0100: Assuming you mean the log that I think you mean, that person was called stupid due to (zhllg) mlangc, actually i use this script to update the system: sudo emerge -tauvDN world

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-01 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 20:34:51 +0100: On Saturday 31 May 2008 20:25:42 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: New in pkgcore: --ignore-failures: [snip] people who asked for a

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-06-01 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: On Saturday 31 May 2008 20:25:42 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: New in pkgcore: --ignore-failures: [snip] people who asked for a similar functionality in paludis were called stupid. (asking for skipfirst equivalent) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread ionut cucu
On Sat, 31 May 2008 00:17:55 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: On Friday 30 May 2008 22:10:00 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: oh really? I don't think so. You also

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread ionut cucu
On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:16:06 +0200 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another reason not to use paludis: you can't

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 22:16:06 +0200: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/30 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another reason not to use paludis: you can't go back. At least not easily.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/30 David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 30 May 2008 22:10:00 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: oh really? I don't think so. You also think that * it's Paludis's fault that the maintainers of some of the overlays I use chose to

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/30 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: On Friday 30 May 2008 21:16:06 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Richard Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: So, in my opinion, you are just a pro-paludis troll. And from what I can see, trolls are the prefered audience and power behind paludis. Guys - let's try to keep this civil! There are lots of folks who use and

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 22:16:06 +0200: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: On Friday 30 May 2008 23:17:55 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: So, in my opinion, you are just a pro-paludis troll. And in my opinion, you are just an obsessive, delusional, anti-Paludis fundamentalist. Whenever it (or Exherbo) is mentioned,

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, ionut cucu wrote: 2.when it comes to speed paludis is much faster i use pkgcore. It can't go faster than 'instantly' -- gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 31 May 2008 10:53:40 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: really? I only see one paludis related 'thread' so far. Look harder. So could you tone down your personal attacks? It's quite hilarious that you say that after your lies and FUD about the entire Paludis team. --

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 19:17:59 +: 2008/5/30 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do the KDE-live builds require paludis? I recall reading that they were headed that way, because it could support an EAPI with needed features while

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 09:08:38 +: 2008/5/31 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So seeing someone that's actually using pkgcore is helpful. =8^) does pkgcore has more features than portage?! i seem to remember trying it about one

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 19:17:59 +: 2008/5/30 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In any case, 4.1 appears to have fixed at least some of the 4.0 blockers, including the big one here, the lack of

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 09:08:38 +: the same goes for me, a kde user. i really need some gnome apps like pan or firefox and just for it i need a big deal of gnome deps. and you should

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 15:43:21 +: or you could just use the kde4 apps in kde3.5. When I switch, I'll start using KDE4 for everything I can, so it'd be the other way, KDE3 where I have to, KDE4 where it has been ported and

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 18:24:08 +: on the klibido site?! maybe its devs have gone with gtk+ and pan :-( Dev, singular. At least from all indications and he said it was just him, at one point. Of course, pan isn't much

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 18:12:56 +: by the way, a short question: what do i have to do to be sure that kernel compilation uses ccache and is there a way to have it compiling into ram like the packages that portage or paludis

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Beso
2008/5/31 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 18:12:56 +: by the way, a short question: what do i have to do to be sure that kernel compilation uses ccache and is there a way to have it compiling into ram

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, Beso wrote: another good thing of paludis is the use of sets that include a list of packages. i've actually been using them to update live packages without putting them all hand by hand everytime. http://www.pkgcore.org/trac/pkgcore/wiki/Features

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 31 May 2008 20:25:42 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: New in pkgcore: --ignore-failures: [snip] people who asked for a similar functionality in paludis were called stupid. (asking for skipfirst equivalent) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] $ paludis --help [snip] --continue-on-failure Whether

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Duncan
David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 20:34:51 +0100: On Saturday 31 May 2008 20:25:42 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: New in pkgcore: --ignore-failures: [snip] people who asked for a similar functionality in paludis were called

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-31 Thread Richard Freeman
Duncan wrote: I don't have a particular dog in this fight, but that's not the same thing. --skip-first allows the admin to react to whatever when wrong, try to fix it, and use the skip option only if he decides it's warranted. IOW, it's sort of interactive, tho over time. It appears this

[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Duncan
Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 13:19:08 +: you unistall it and install the new slot. the kde 4.1 should have the kde4 slot while the kde4.1 beta has the kde4-live slot. you can clearly see that they're different slots and that

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Beso
2008/5/30 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 30 May 2008 13:19:08 +: you unistall it and install the new slot. the kde 4.1 should have the kde4 slot while the kde4.1 beta has the kde4-live slot. you can clearly see

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another reason not to use paludis: you can't go back. At least not easily. With pkgcore you can switch between pkgcore and portage

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread David Leverton
On Friday 30 May 2008 21:16:06 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another reason not to use paludis: you can't go back. At least not

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Barry Schwartz
David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis: On Friday 30 May 2008 21:16:06 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another reason not to

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread David Leverton
On Friday 30 May 2008 21:48:03 Barry Schwartz wrote: I suggest that Paludis delete that from the FAQ if the people responsible don't want a reputation as bullies, because this is bullying. No it isn't. There is also the example above of someone being accused of lying simply for stating a

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: On Friday 30 May 2008 21:16:06 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another reason not

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread David Leverton
On Friday 30 May 2008 22:10:00 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: oh really? I don't think so. You also think that * it's Paludis's fault that the maintainers of some of the overlays I use chose to commit eclasses with the same names as those in the

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: On Friday 30 May 2008 21:16:06 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, Duncan wrote: I've not done paludis due to its lack of binary package support. Even tho I'm running only a single computer there is another reason not

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread David Leverton
On Friday 30 May 2008 22:18:18 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: http://www.gentooexperimental.org/not-the-gwn/not-the-gwn-current.html for some numbers. Lies, damned lies, and what was that other thing? typical paludis-supporter behaviour:

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: On Friday 30 May 2008 22:10:00 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Freitag, 30. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: oh really? I don't think so. You also think that * it's Paludis's fault that the maintainers of some of the overlays I use chose

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread David Leverton
On Friday 30 May 2008 23:17:55 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: So, in my opinion, you are just a pro-paludis troll. And in my opinion, you are just an obsessive, delusional, anti-Paludis fundamentalist. Whenever it (or Exherbo) is mentioned, you're right there, spewing your retarded lies and

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: typical paludis-supporter behaviour: http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2007/01/be-careful-when-you-are-on-paludis.ht ml ciaranm, known to game the system. Abusive against users. rbrownspb, just removed because of their abusive behaviour.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread David Leverton
On Saturday 31 May 2008 00:41:25 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: You must have missed the forced retirement of spb and rbrown exactly because of their behaviour. Do I need to find the bugzilla link for you? There's nothing on any of those bugs that would come even close to justifying retirement,

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Barry Schwartz
Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis: On Samstag, 31. Mai 2008, David Leverton wrote: typical paludis-supporter behaviour: http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2007/01/be-careful-when-you-are-on-paludis.ht ml ciaranm, known to game the system. Abusive against users.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Richard Freeman
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: So, in my opinion, you are just a pro-paludis troll. And from what I can see, trolls are the prefered audience and power behind paludis. Guys - let's try to keep this civil! There are lots of folks who use and like paludis who aren't trolls. I'm among them.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Barry Schwartz
woops, my bad, I didn't mean to send that to the list. (Much embarassment) -- gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.

2008-05-30 Thread Avuton Olrich
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Richard Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: So, in my opinion, you are just a pro-paludis troll. And from what I can see, trolls are the prefered audience and power behind paludis. Guys - let's try to keep this civil! There are