Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-23 Thread Thilo Bangert
However as a member of the existing portage team and also as a council member I would reject (and I would encourage[read work really hard at it] other council members to do the same) any GLEP which allowed or promoted the primary pkg mgt system being hosted offsite and maintained by non devs

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 22 May 2006 18:30, Chris Bainbridge wrote: On 22/05/06, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are serious costs involved with forking something. For gentoo this would include image problems by being seen as evil forkers. Surely such decisions should be based on technical

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-23 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 22 May 2006 17:54, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Am I missing something obvious? -g2boojum- Probably just the blatant Ciaran hate, and the realization that people will have to suck it up and deal with him if his package manager ever becomes official for Gentoo. Who was it that

[gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
So, right now virtual/eject is the old-style virtual that gets listed in virtuals file in the profiles, defaulting to sys-apps/eject that is Linux only. I would like to move it to a new-style virtual to make it simpler to handlef or other platforms, having the deps this way: || (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 12:38:55PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: So, right now virtual/eject is the old-style virtual that gets listed in virtuals file in the profiles, defaulting to sys-apps/eject that is Linux only. I would like to move it to a new-style virtual to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 13:25, Harald van Dijk wrote: How does it help? New-style virtuals have several disadvantages, and the usual advantages of new-style virtuals don't apply here. If it actually provides real benefits, then no objections from me, but how is this easier to maintain than a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 12:38 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: So, right now virtual/eject is the old-style virtual that gets listed in virtuals file in the profiles, defaulting to sys-apps/eject that is Linux only. Please refrain from adding any new(bad) style virtuals till

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Ned Ludd wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 12:38 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: So, right now virtual/eject is the old-style virtual that gets listed in virtuals file in the profiles, defaulting to sys-apps/eject that is Linux only. Please refrain from adding any new(bad) style

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Harald van Dijk wrote: How does it help? New-style virtuals have several disadvantages, and the usual advantages of new-style virtuals don't apply here. If it actually provides real benefits, then no objections from me, but how is this easier to maintain than a virtual/eject sys-block/unieject

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 07:12:53AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Harald van Dijk wrote: How does it help? New-style virtuals have several disadvantages, and the usual advantages of new-style virtuals don't apply here. If it actually provides real benefits, then no objections from me, but how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Harald van Dijk wrote: can't block themselves when only one may be installed at a time, This is the one that really annoys me. New-style virtuals are supposed to make things so easy, but you end up having a ton of crap added to each provider to block all the others. Thanks, Donnie

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 23 May 2006 10:46:21 +0200 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Except that if things were really problematic, the council could have | some developers go in to actually do the thing required. Even if it | were against the wishes of the maintainers. I do not believe that the | failure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Ned Ludd
And now per arch breakdowns. http://gentooexperimental.org/~ferringb/reports/arch-vulnerabilities/ On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 23:02 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: ferringb took the time to write a parser and setup a cronjob (every 4 hours at the half hour) to parse over our GLSA's and see what pkgs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 04:22:30PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: And now per arch breakdowns. http://gentooexperimental.org/~ferringb/reports/arch-vulnerabilities/ Couple more reports generated (in the parent dir, dropped keywords, imlate, packages that have just ~arch, ebuild metadata verification,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 16:22 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: And now per arch breakdowns. http://gentooexperimental.org/~ferringb/reports/arch-vulnerabilities/ No offense, but that isn't exactly useful in its current form. For example, x86 shows *all* of the packages, even ones where it has a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 04:51:06PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 16:22 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: And now per arch breakdowns. http://gentooexperimental.org/~ferringb/reports/arch-vulnerabilities/ No offense, but that isn't exactly useful in its current form. For

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 14:06 -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 04:51:06PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 16:22 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: And now per arch breakdowns. http://gentooexperimental.org/~ferringb/reports/arch-vulnerabilities/ No offense,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Ned Ludd
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 16:51 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 16:22 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: And now per arch breakdowns. http://gentooexperimental.org/~ferringb/reports/arch-vulnerabilities/ No offense, but that isn't exactly useful in its current form. heh. For

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 05:46:09PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I completely understand this. However, in most cases the reason the older packages are still in the tree is because *somebody* doesn't have it stable yet. Strictly stable, or unstable? What about profiles, which to account

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 17:50 -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: Feel free to fire off a request to ferringb. He is trying to be helpful here and I'm all for taking advantage of that. Oh, absolutely. I didn't mean to come across sounding like I wasn't grateful for the information he's providing. I was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 15:05 -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 05:46:09PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I completely understand this. However, in most cases the reason the older packages are still in the tree is because *somebody* doesn't have it stable yet. Strictly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 06:24:31PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 15:05 -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 05:46:09PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I completely understand this. However, in most cases the reason the older packages are still in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Don't filter --as-needed !

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 20 May 2006 09:52, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Please, don't filter --as-needed i your ebuild. If your package does not build with --as-needed, leave the bug open, and I'll eventually take care of it (when I have time, time constrain is my only problem). mark should update his

Re: [gentoo-dev] cmake.eclass

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 18 May 2006 07:44, Panard wrote: OPTION=${OPTION:-WITH_${USEFLAG}} quoting here is pointless mkdir -p ${BUILDDIR} cd ${BUILDDIR} echo cmake ${S} -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=${INSTALL_PREFIX} \ $(cmake_use_option debug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed package move

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 18 May 2006 06:41, Paul de Vrieze wrote: The package sys-apps/paludis is in the wrong category. It is a package manager on par with rpm, dpkg, etc. Those live in app-arch. app-arch is for things that manage archives paludis is much more than an archive manager -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed package move

2006-05-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 18 May 2006 06:41, Paul de Vrieze wrote: The package sys-apps/paludis is in the wrong category. It is a package manager on par with rpm, dpkg, etc. Those live in app-arch. app-arch is for things that manage archives paludis is much more than an archive

Re: mercurial.eclass (was: [gentoo-dev] New darcs.eclass)

2006-05-23 Thread Aron Griffis
Matthias, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: [Sun May 21 2006, 05:40:53AM EDT] * The eclass copies the downloaded sources to ${S} rather than to ${WORKDIR}/${HG_MODULE_NAME}. * the unpack-function keeps the current working directory in /usr/portage/distfiles/hg-src/${HG_MODULE}. Could you try the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed package move

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 21:18, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 18 May 2006 06:41, Paul de Vrieze wrote: The package sys-apps/paludis is in the wrong category. It is a package manager on par with rpm, dpkg, etc. Those live in app-arch. app-arch is for things that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Don't filter --as-needed !

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Loeser
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mark should update his QA script to flag this as a maintainer is doing something stupid /me makes a TODO item to remember to try and get something work for this soon Basically, any sort of flag filtering is doing something stupid. It should just be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Thomas Cort
On Tue, 23 May 2006 13:44:09 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple more reports generated (in the parent dir, dropped keywords, imlate, packages that have just ~arch, ebuild metadata verification, and ebuild has been unstable for arch X for greater then N days). Seems like we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding Request

2006-05-23 Thread david
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-23 Thread Doug Goldstein
Brian Harring wrote: Commented in #-security about it, but any reason that arches don't yank their keywords from insecure ebuilds after they've stabled a replacement? Brian, I asked about this VERY same thing a long while back and at best I received Because person X said no. So you ask

Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding Request

2006-05-23 Thread Doug Goldstein
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 18 May 2006 07:40, Simon Stelling wrote: To continue my development in an efficient way, I need a larger screen, particularly one with a resolution of 1024x3972. However, I can not afford the costs for such an investment, so I thought maybe the community