Re: [gentoo-dev] Future developer

2006-07-04 Thread Francesco Riosa
Paul de Vrieze wrote: I'm proud to announce the arival of a future developer. His name is Tom. He arived last monday on 10:22 am (UTC+02). I and my wife will take care of mentoring him to full developership ;-). In the meantime, he's got his own album on http://www.cs.ru.nl/~pauldv/tom/

[gentoo-dev] Test request: linux-mod support for arches with 64-bit kernel/32-bit userland

2006-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
This is a testing request aimed at all arches that have differing kernel/userspace bit counts. My short list so far is: - ppc64 - 64/32 (tested myself, but more testing needed) - sparc64 - 64/32 - mips64 - 64/32 [1] Other possibles (they should be theoretically capable of it, but the profile is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd

2006-07-04 Thread Chris Bainbridge
On 03/07/06, Benedikt Böhm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 21:56, Nick Devito wrote: Okay, in that case, extend the vserver herd to include a larger range of virtualization stuff, including Xen, Bochs, and so on. It just seems more fitting to group those packages together.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd

2006-07-04 Thread Nick Devito
Yeah, to me, having those in the emulation category just doesn'tfit there, but, that's just me. Maybe we could take xen, vmware, qemu, and related packages out of app-emulation, and make a new category, app-virtualization. That would seem to fit a bit better then emulation. On Tue,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Test request: linux-mod support for arches with 64-bit kernel/32-bit userland

2006-07-04 Thread Kumba
Robin H. Johnson wrote: Notes. 1. Mips: with your triple ABI stuff, you might want to look very closely at this. The triple ABI stuff doesn't really affect things. o32 userland on a 64bit box is the only case where you have to worry about split compilers. In a theoretical n32 or n64

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Patrick McLean
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 11:12 +, Duncan wrote: For example, if we hand out CDs at conventions etc, we would have to also hand out source CDs. As my reply there, however, Gentoo does still have it better than most, in that the LiveCDs contain relatively few

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Nick Devito
It would *probably* be easier to take the /usr/portage/distfiles directory and pop that on a CD, or, have the option of putting those files in a directory on the livecd. It shouldn't be too hard to do, however, it would take up more space on the CD. On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 11:59 -0400, Patrick

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

2006-07-04 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi, perhaps i wasnt clear enough: it doesnt matter who the maintainer of gpm in Gentoo is until this is resolved upstream The upstream seems to be quite dead at the moment. No traffic goes through the lists, the last release quite old and lots of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

2006-07-04 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:03:32 +0200 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But: * I'm fairly new here and not familar with the development and qm process yet, so I need some assistance. Anything still onclear on my last posting ?

[gentoo-dev] Mobile Computing herd severely understaffed

2006-07-04 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi all, The mobile herd, a group of laptop and mobile-computing related ebuilds, desperately needs more maintainers. We are severely understaffed with only 8 maintainers (several which are not active in the herd) for 114 ebuilds. We have quite a few maintainer-wanted bugs sitting in bugzilla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mobile Computing herd severely understaffed

2006-07-04 Thread Nick Devito
Since I'm not a developer, I can't exactly help with maintaining, but, I got two laptops so, I bet I could test anything out which you might need tested. Just let me know if that would help in any way (I got a ton of free time and nothing to do, so, might as well :) ~ Nick On Tue, 2006-07-04 at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mobile Computing herd severely understaffed

2006-07-04 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 12:00:40PM -0600, Nick Devito wrote: Since I'm not a developer, I can't exactly help with maintaining, but, I got two laptops so, I bet I could test anything out which you might need tested. Just let me know if that would help in any way (I got a ton of free time and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Test request: linux-mod support for arches with 64-bit kernel/32-bit userland

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 06:08, Robin H. Johnson wrote: - superh - 64/32 i wouldnt ever worry about this since, afaik, the sh64 port is still really developmental and no one really has hardware for end users to worry about ... plus they werent really designed to be compatible -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 03 July 2006 21:00, Robin H. Johnson wrote: If you have an ebuild with a non-standard pkg_nofetch, please ensure that you use $SRC_URI instead of $A! This is because if you have FEATURES=mirror or FEATURES=cvs, attempts to download all of the source files for digesting or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 13:07, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: perhaps i wasnt clear enough: it doesnt matter who the maintainer of gpm in Gentoo is until this is resolved upstream The upstream seems to be quite dead at the moment. No traffic goes

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Robin H. Johnson wrote: When FEATURES=mirror, and you try to fetch, it does indeed contain unevaluated USE flags. However for FEATURES=-mirror, the content of it is correct - no USE flags at all. Maybe a two-part solution is in order here then: 1. Change portage behavior regarding the value

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 01 July 2006 02:46, Mike Frysinger wrote: well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people for the next Gentoo Council i guess i'll start off some mass nominations of random people off the top of my head who i think would do a good job ... there's a

[gentoo-dev] Birth announcement : sci-electronics

2006-07-04 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Good news !The sci-electronics herd isn't one day old yet, but it is already diaper free (well, almost).In case you're interested to help, please drop us a message at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. And don't forget to bring your own soldering iron.Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 14:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 03 July 2006 21:00, Robin H. Johnson wrote: If you have an ebuild with a non-standard pkg_nofetch, please ensure that you use $SRC_URI instead of $A! This is because if you have FEATURES=mirror or FEATURES=cvs, attempts to

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: When FEATURES=mirror, and you try to fetch, it does indeed contain unevaluated USE flags. However for FEATURES=-mirror, the content of it is correct - no USE flags at all. Are you sure about the SRC_URI being different? I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: Patrick McLean schrieb: I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just make a cd with all the distfiles used in the ISO, and keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd

2006-07-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:59:12 -0600 Nick Devito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, to me, having those in the emulation category just doesn'tfit there, but, that's just me. Maybe we could take xen, vmware, qemu, and related packages out of app-emulation, and make a new category,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Virtualization Herd

2006-07-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 07:59:12 -0600 Nick Devito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, to me, having those in the emulation category just doesn'tfit there, but, that's just me. Maybe we could take xen, vmware, qemu, and related packages out of app-emulation, and make a new category,

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 12:35:04PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: When FEATURES=mirror, and you try to fetch, it does indeed contain unevaluated USE flags. However for FEATURES=-mirror, the content of it is correct - no

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 03:32:47PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sorry, i just re-read your message ... perhaps a better fix would be to not force people to download all the packages when something has fetch restrictions ? That's not an option if you are re-digesting the package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Nick Devito
It wouldn't be a hard task to accomplish (to put the sources on the mirrors), since *most* of the source is already on the mirrors in some form or another. We could make an option when downloading the livecd to either download ones with the sources included, or without, and, include links to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:34:01 +0300 Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick McLean schrieb: I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just make a cd with all the distfiles used in the ISO,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 02:46:59 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people for the next Gentoo Council I nominate SpanKY, vapier and Mike Frysinger. Maybe they have enough on their collective plate already, but maybe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Seemant Kulleen
I'd like to nominate: SpanKY/vapier azarah solar Kugelfang Mr_Bones_ dsd_ Thanks, -- Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Foundation / Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 16:10, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 03:32:47PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sorry, i just re-read your message ... perhaps a better fix would be to not force people to download all the packages when something has fetch restrictions ? That's not

[gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, maybe I've found a problem in the init.d stuff: It seems that /var/lib/init.d/started/* is blindly trusted, instead of actually checking if some service is running. For example, ntpd cannot be restarted via its init.d script if it died for some reason - /var/lib/init.d/started/ntpd

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, maybe I've found a problem in the init.d stuff: It seems that /var/lib/init.d/started/* is blindly trusted, instead of actually checking if some service is running. For example, ntpd cannot be restarted via its init.d script if it died for some reason -

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Pablo Yanez Trujillo
what about /etc/init.d/ntpd zap? It deletes the file on /var/ and set the status of the init.d-file as not started. It is useful for such a case :) Regards Pablo Pablo Yánez Trujillo http://klingsor.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/ Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, maybe I've found a problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Pablo Yanez Trujillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: what about /etc/init.d/ntpd zap? It deletes the file on /var/ and set the status of the init.d-file as not started. It is useful for such a case :) The problem is: if the service still runs, it will attemt to start it twice. So this

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Nick Devito
One slightly hackish way would be the grab the PID, and check in ps aux as to if it was running. That's one way to do what you are talking about. ~ nick On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 00:43 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Pablo Yanez Trujillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: what about /etc/init.d/ntpd zap?

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:43, Enrico Weigelt wrote: We should think about mechanisms to check if the service is actually running. This could also be used for frequently service checks and notification. there is no fool proof way to do this -mike pgpKkEmrK36b2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Announce: standalone libgpm

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:47, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: BTW: libgpm is an fork-off from gpm, which just contains the client stuff. Maybe it will evolve to an more generic mouse library, ie. supporting other interfaces, like sysmouse directly.

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Roy Marples
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 23:58, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 04 July 2006 18:43, Enrico Weigelt wrote: We should think about mechanisms to check if the service is actually running. This could also be used for frequently service checks and notification. there is no fool proof way to do

Re: [gentoo-dev] init.d problem

2006-07-04 Thread Pablo Yanez Trujillo
The problem is: if the service still runs, yes, I know. But I read the bug report and Enrico wrote that for some reasons the service didn't run anymore. if it had been started but terminated abnormally (not through this script) and in this case the zap argument is for me the right solution :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Curtis Napier
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 01 July 2006 02:46, Mike Frysinger wrote: well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people for the next Gentoo Council i guess i'll start off some mass nominations of random people off the top of my head who i think would do a

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread George Prowse
On 05/07/06, Curtis Napier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 01 July 2006 02:46, Mike Frysinger wrote: well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people for the next Gentoo Council i guess i'll start off some mass nominations of random

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mobile Computing herd severely understaffed

2006-07-04 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Hi all, The mobile herd, a group of laptop and mobile-computing related ebuilds, desperately needs more maintainers. We are severely understaffed with only 8 maintainers (several which are not active in the herd)

[gentoo-dev] arch-cruft in use.mask makes me angry

2006-07-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
can someone remind me why our arch USE flags are in an opt-out system rather than opt-in ? instead of adding things like: dmi icc mmx svga ... to every non-x86 profile, why dont we mask these things in base/use.mask and then un-mask them in default-linux/x86 ? doesnt that make more sense ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Ryan Tandy
George Prowse wrote: pauldv jr seconded :D -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Aaron Kulbe
On 7/4/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Prowse wrote: pauldv jrseconded :D--gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing listCount me in for thirds. :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-04 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 22:39, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I nominate SpanKY, vapier and Mike Frysinger. I second these nominations, all three. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE pgpbe7QUL9PfA.pgp