[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: several app-emacs packages

2007-04-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, # Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (24 Apr 2007) # removal on 24 May 2007 # broken, upstream dead app-emacs/cdi app-emacs/tnt # they do regular releases, so no live ebuild needed app-emacs/erc-cvs V-Li --

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: several app-emacs packages

2007-04-24 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # broken, upstream dead app-emacs/tnt I take that back V-Li -- http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.faulhammer.org/ http://www.gnupg.org/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] add built_with_use_die() to eutils.eclass ?

2007-04-24 Thread Julien Allanos \(dju`\)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lars Weiler a écrit : * dju` [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07/04/23 23:45 +0200]: # Generate a standard error message for missing USE flags # in existing packages, and die. I dislike that an emerge process dies when a use-flag is not set (okay, it will

Re: [gentoo-dev] add built_with_use_die() to eutils.eclass ?

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:45:48 +0200 dju` [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eerror Your ${package} package has been built without eerror ${func} support, please enable the '${use_flag}' USE flag and eerror re-emerge ${package}. elog You can enable this USE flag either

[gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This decission can be appealed at the next Council meeting. If there is sufficient

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Danny van Dyk: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This decission can be appealed

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
Danny van Dyk wrote: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This decission can be appealed at the next Council meeting.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Steve Dibb
Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This decission can be appealed at the next Council meeting. If there is sufficient

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 03:16:38PM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: Danny van Dyk wrote: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 01:15:55PM -0600, Steve Dibb wrote: media-viode/mplayer-1.0_rc2_pre20070321-r4 media-video/transcode-1.0.3_rc2_p20070310-r1 MPlayer needs to be fixed, though it's in the same boat as transcode ... it's a release candidate plus a patch level. Multimedia apps are

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Doug Goldstein: Danny van Dyk wrote: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Steve Dibb: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This decission can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
Bryan Østergaard wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 03:49:44PM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:16:38 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So apparently as little as 1 council member can make a decision and it be binding

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
Danny van Dyk wrote: Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Doug Goldstein: Danny van Dyk wrote: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Petteri Räty: Danny van Dyk kirjoitti: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 04:00:42PM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: Bryan Østergaard wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 03:49:44PM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: Bryan, You and Danny have clearly shown your bias towards paludis take over and support of Gentoo. It's fairly poor taste to FORCE

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
Danny van Dyk wrote: Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Petteri Räty: Danny van Dyk kirjoitti: Hi all, [CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, 2007] A subset of council members decided today that multiple version suffixes are illegal in the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Jurek Bartuszek
Only a short response, as I'm a bit in a hurry right now. From #gentoo-council earlier: 18:25 @robbat2 make him covert it to _rc%04d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR, $MONTH,$DAY Let me see if I have this straight: suppose we have package foo-0.1_rc2 released (very outdated) and we're waiting for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Jurek Bartuszek: Only a short response, as I'm a bit in a hurry right now. From #gentoo-council earlier: 18:25 @robbat2 make him covert it to _rc%04d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR, $MONTH,$DAY Let me see if I have this straight: suppose we have package

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
Jurek Bartuszek wrote: Only a short response, as I'm a bit in a hurry right now. From #gentoo-council earlier: 18:25 @robbat2 make him covert it to _rc%04d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR, $MONTH,$DAY Let me see if I have this straight: suppose we have package foo-0.1_rc2 released (very

[PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Wernfried Haas
Just a general note to everyone in this thread: I haven't had the time to read the posts in this thread, but proctors have received complaints about behaviour within. For the time being, i would ask all people participating to remember the CoC applies here and act accordingly. We will review the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 09:54:20PM +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: 18:25 @robbat2 make him covert it to _rc%04d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR, $MONTH,$DAY In my original email, I also suggested this solution, but it seems that nobody read it: ] Alternatively, follow the example of any ebuild that uses a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Alexis Ballier
Only a short response, as I'm a bit in a hurry right now. From #gentoo-council earlier: 18:25 @robbat2 make him covert it to _rc%04d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR, $MONTH,$DAY Let me see if I have this straight: suppose we have package foo-0.1_rc2 released (very outdated) and we're waiting

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Jurek Bartuszek
Existing _rcX cases can be handled like this: _rc2-rMMDD Portage will update from _rc2 to a version with revision part 0. However, _rc2-rMMDD-r1 would *not* be valid anymore, and I think it's quite easy to imagine when this additional -r1 would be neccessary. Regards, Jurek --

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Jurek Bartuszek: Existing _rcX cases can be handled like this: _rc2-rMMDD Portage will update from _rc2 to a version with revision part 0. However, _rc2-rMMDD-r1 would *not* be valid anymore, and I think it's quite easy to imagine when

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Tuesday 24 of April 2007 22:47:00 Jurek Bartuszek wrote: Let me see if I have this straight: suppose we have package foo-0.1_rc2 released (very outdated) and we're waiting for foo-0.1_rc3. Then example of something between those two would be foo-0.1_rc000220070313? Would that force portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Tuesday 24 of April 2007 23:20:05 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: foo-0.1_rc2 foo-0.1_rc000220070313 foo-0.1_rc3 err. foo-0.1_rc2 foo-0.1_rc000220070313 foo-0.1_rc000320070512 What I was trying to say is that once you change to the long versions you must stay with them. -- Best Regards, Piotr

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:54:21 +0200 Fernando J. Pereda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean real Gentoo users that use a Portage version that don't support multiple suffixes, right ? People still using portage 2.0.x have much more serious problems. Marius -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wernfried Haas wrote: Just a general note to everyone in this thread: I haven't had the time to read the posts in this thread, but proctors have received complaints about behaviour within. For the time being, i would ask all people participating

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Piotr Jaroszyński: foo-0.1_rc2 foo-0.1_rc000220070313 foo-0.1_rc3 Leading zeros are ignored (unless in very special cases in the version spec and since a recent portage version also in the revision part), so the above is incorrect - generally spoken.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Jurek Bartuszek
that also means doing some funky $P renamings in the ebuild to catch upstream _rc3 tarball, but that's probably better than allowing such multiple suffixes. I disagree, multiple suffixes would be much clearer to read. IMHO renaming _rc3 to _rc0003 is an overkill. Why not simply allow

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:29:37 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rationale behind this is the following: * certain combinations of suffixes don't make sense. That's highly subjective. * only recent Portage versions support it. I wouldn't call portage-2.1 recent as it's been

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:20:05 +0200 Piotr Jaroszyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 24 of April 2007 22:47:00 Jurek Bartuszek wrote: Let me see if I have this straight: suppose we have package foo-0.1_rc2 released (very outdated) and we're waiting for foo-0.1_rc3. Then example of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Robin H. Johnson wrote: In my original email, I also suggested this solution, but it seems that nobody read it: ] Alternatively, follow the example of any ebuild that uses a dated ] patchset, and just have the date of the patchset in the ebuild, and only ] increment $PR singly. This solution

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Jurek Bartuszek
err. foo-0.1_rc2 foo-0.1_rc000220070313 foo-0.1_rc000320070512 What I was trying to say is that once you change to the long versions you must stay with them. And there you have another flaw of this system - how am I supposed to predict if I'll ever need the extended _rc versioning in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Seemant Kulleen
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 13:39 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: You might be overreacting a little here. To bring you up to speed vapier actually filed the original bug for this after I first noticed one of these atoms creeping into the tree while doing pre release atom compare testing for portage-utils

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: On Wednesday 25 of April 2007 00:04:35 Jurek Bartuszek wrote: Hmm, is swiching from _rc2 to _rc0002 trouble-free from user's POV too? Wouldn't he be forced to update from former to latter then? It's the same version. Or am I missing something? There is no

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Jurek Bartuszek
Doug Goldstein wrote: Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: There is no need for such a switch, just add new snapshot using the long _rc. Once you do it you will have to keep using it until version bump, e.g. (low to high): 1.0_rc1 1.0_rc000120070101 (newer snapshot of rc1) 1.0_rc0120070102 (leading

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 18:21 -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: Seemant: I'd like to continue to discuss the ways of council decission on gentoo-council rather than on gentoo-dev ML. :-) Happy to do that, in the general case. In this specific case, however, it's valid here, because the entire

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 00:30 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: I just wonder why several people feel attacked by this decission while the affected parties have no problem with it. There is a growing anti-authority sentiment within the Gentoo developer community. People want to complain about any

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Seemant Kulleen
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 19:31 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: It seems that every time I open my email client, somebody out there is trying to say that by the Council using the powers afforded to them that somehow they're conspiring to take down Gentoo. Yeah... because that's just what the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Seemant Kulleen
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 00:30 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: In my eyes it was a policy issue. Tree-wide policies have to pass the council in one form or the other. So why shouldn't Council care here? My argument is not that Council should not care. My question is: what's the big urgency to rush

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Goldstein
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Robin H. Johnson wrote: In my original email, I also suggested this solution, but it seems that nobody read it: ] Alternatively, follow the example of any ebuild that uses a dated ] patchset, and just have the date of the patchset in the ebuild, and only ] increment