Re: [gentoo-dev] Good-bye

2007-12-24 Thread Shyam Mani
Seemant Kulleen wrote: > Dear Gentoo Devs and Users, > The time has finally come for me to resign from Gentoo. I've been Seemant, Thanks a lot for everything you've done for Gentoo. It's been really amazing to have you around and you'll be missed. Take care my friend and do stick around on IRC.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Dec 25, 2007 2:38 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do > > > EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo "${EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 02:26 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do > > EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo "${EAPI}"` > > Doesn't work with current ebuilds, nor future ebuilds. No point

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Dec 24, 2007 7:53 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So to obtain EAPI from .ebuild you would always do > EAPI=`. /path/to/ebuild.ebuild; echo "${EAPI}"` Doesn't work with current ebuilds, nor future ebuilds. No points! -- Ciaran McCreesh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PMS location (Was: Re: EAPI placement)

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 19:52 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The CVS stuff should have been locked out already, not sure how you > tested that. I didn't. I assumed that as I had access to d.g.o, I had CVS access too. My bad. > The Git stuff is coming very shortly (probably as a Christmas gift fro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PMS location (Was: Re: EAPI placement)

2007-12-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 11:00:44PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 21:39 +, Duncan wrote: > > Apparently, at present, pretty much the only one with access > > is the one who actually did the port, and he's hasn't done much with it > > since. > > I beg to differ - I've down

[gentoo-dev] Roy's retirement (Was: PMS location)

2007-12-24 Thread Duncan
Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:00:44 +: > On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 21:39 +, Duncan wrote: >> Apparently, at present, pretty much the only one with access is the one >> who actually did the port, and he's hasn't done much with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PMS location (Was: Re: EAPI placement)

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 21:39 +, Duncan wrote: > Apparently, at present, pretty much the only one with access > is the one who actually did the port, and he's hasn't done much with it > since. I beg to differ - I've down an awful lot with the code. It now installs and works cleanly on a vanill

[gentoo-dev] Re: PMS location (Was: Re: EAPI placement)

2007-12-24 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:38:19 +: > Even if any of the PMS contributors *wanted* to commit to an official > Gentoo repository, they couldn't because neither the Council nor > whoever did the setting up have bothered

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2007-12-24 Thread Raúl Porcel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Roy Marples
Just picked this particular email to reply with my thoughts on this thread. On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 10:52 +, Steve Long wrote: > But they come under the scope of this discussion, since this is about the > long-term future of *every* EAPI. So let's discuss them Impossible. History has proven aga

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 11:19:18 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Which is fine. But then, the majority of devs shouldn't expect to be > > able to provide opinions when it comes to the more technical > > aspects. > > > Yes, but they can smell a nasty hack when they see one; starting with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Eclasses (Was: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2])

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:52:53 + Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:03:12 + > > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> * Set the EAPI inside the ebuild in a way that makes it easy to > >> fetch it This is ok as atm only EAPI=1 is in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:29:25 +0100 >> The majority of devs don't want to know how portage or paludis work >> internally, that's not what interests most of us. > > Which is fine. But then, the majority of devs shouldn't expect to be > able to provide opinions when it comes

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:03:12 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Set the EAPI inside the ebuild in a way that makes it easy to >> fetch it This is ok as atm only EAPI=1 is in the tree, so there is no >> backward compatibility issue. > > It's both a backward

Re: [gentoo-dev] PMS location (Was: Re: EAPI placement)

2007-12-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 08:27:39 + (UTC) Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem right now is that while you are correct, that's the > official list, due to technical/political issues, the Gentoo-official > PMS repo doesn't (or didn't as of the last council meeting, according > to the log)

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-24 Thread Duncan
Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:01:15 +: > I don't accept that I took it to that level, but I apologise > unreservedly for responding to it. Thanks. Now to leave it behind. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI placement

2007-12-24 Thread Duncan
Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:51:34 +: >> The most basic issue, which we didn't even discuss yet, afaik, is how >> to make every developer aware which feature belongs to which EAPI. I >> freely admit, I do not know that. Is th