Re: [gentoo-dev] 'State of Gentoo' BoF session, Linux Symposium 2010.

2010-07-11 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:30:08 -0400 Jacob Godserv jacobgods...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 13:19, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: I'm running a BoF session during the Linux Symposium 2010 in Ottawa next week, entitled 'State of Gentoo'. I've had my own uneducated

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Sun, 2010-07-11 at 01:28 -0400, Jacob Godserv wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:13, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: I've already explained the strategy behind the git repo (and not doing plaintext patches). Please refer to my paper, and my other mails posted recently on this list.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Hans de Graaff gra...@gentoo.org schrieb: I do understand the response, because part of the strategy mentioned *is* not to provide plain-text patches, but instead manage them, possibly jointly with other distributions, in a midstream repository. Exactly. The point is: I have to maintain

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: The point is: I have to maintain lots of packages for different distros, as well as for my own build system. I cannot do this manually for each single distro, so I prefer doing _generic_ fixes and let the distro

[gentoo-dev] Re: [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Duncan
Nirbheek Chauhan posted on Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:28:35 +0530 as excerpted: ... Please consider the patch-website idea above. We definitely need someone to code it up, gather the source-package to distro patches mappings, ... Thanks for writing this up. Well said. =:^) -- Duncan - List

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org schrieb: If I understand your system correctly, you essentially maintain clones of upstream repos, with all the various distro patches applied on top, and release tarballs as well. Yes. And if some upstream does not provide suitable vcs access (or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: * Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org schrieb: I don't see how these various distros can be made to agree with each other and I certainly can't see them using a common tarball source. Thats not even necessary. They just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering it must be debated on the ML for at least X number of days prior to going to the council, I'd more likely just remove MythTV from the tree and maintain it in an overlay. I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering it must be debated on the ML for at least X number of days prior to going to the council, I'd more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. On 11-07-2010 16:03, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/11/2010 07:37 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Simply put, the council's purpose is not to say oh we have to stop development and have a 4 week debate about everything minor. The council's purpose is to help decide between different technical solutions and encourage people to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nirbheek, thanks for writing such a well thought-out and comprehensive reply to Enrico. I agree with all the points you raised. On 11-07-2010 10:28, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: *

[gentoo-dev] QA warnings from eclasses

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
As previously discussed on gentoo-dev there's now a eqawarn function available in eutils.eclass. The function delegates to the Package Manager implementation if available. To see QA messages after emerge when using Portage you can add the following to your make.conf:

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA warnings from eclasses

2010-07-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 08:31:56PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: As previously discussed on gentoo-dev there's now a eqawarn function available in eutils.eclass. The function delegates to the Package Manager implementation if available. To see QA messages after emerge when using Portage you can

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA warnings from eclasses

2010-07-11 Thread Petteri Räty
On 07/11/2010 08:43 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 08:31:56PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: As previously discussed on gentoo-dev there's now a eqawarn function available in eutils.eclass. The function delegates to the Package Manager implementation if available. To see QA

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA warnings from eclasses

2010-07-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 08:53:56PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: On 07/11/2010 08:43 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 08:31:56PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: As previously discussed on gentoo-dev there's now a eqawarn function available in eutils.eclass. The function delegates

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 07:47:24PM +0300, Petteri RRRty wrote: On 07/11/2010 07:37 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Simply put, the council's purpose is not to say oh we have to stop development and have a 4 week debate about everything minor. The council's purpose is to help

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. On 11-07-2010 16:03, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-07-2010 21:56, Doug Goldstein wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. Jorge, I remember very clearly as you and I were

Re: [gentoo-dev] 'State of Gentoo' BoF session, Linux Symposium 2010.

2010-07-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 01:30:08AM -0400, Jacob Godserv wrote: I've had my own uneducated ideas about this exact topic. I'd love to hear more about this. Will notes or a recording be posted anywhere? I'm uncertain if there is going to be any official (FOSDEM-like) recording of the BoF sessions,

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2010-07-11 23h59 UTC

2010-07-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2010-07-11 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-db/mysql-community 2010-07-05 08:55:36 scarabeus dev-perl/Email-MIME-Attachment-Stripper 2010-07-05 09:01:32 scarabeus

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/targets/developer: make.defaults

2010-07-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:19:09 + (UTC) Markos Chandras (hwoarang) hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: hwoarang10/07/11 21:19:09 Modified: make.defaults Log: log eqawarn messages Revision ChangesPath 1.7 profiles/targets/developer/make.defaults

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org schrieb: Thats not even necessary. They just should use the infrastructure, as described in my paper. So everyone can easily set up automatic notifications, cherry-pick, etc, etc. Why should we? To make tracking and applying other's changes much

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org schrieb: just because you decided to offer some service, it in no way forces us to accept it. No, it does not. I never claimed that. And so really I dont understand that fundamentalistic kind of argumentation (which is really near to

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/linux: make.defaults

2010-07-11 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On 07/11/2010 02:50 PM, Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) wrote: -LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 +LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 ${LDFLAGS} My existing, custom, entry for LDFLAGS breaks with this change. Not nice. %% grep LDFLAGS /etc/make.conf LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS},--hash-style=gnu -Wl,--as-needed -Jeremy

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/linux: make.defaults

2010-07-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/12/2010 07:53 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: On 07/11/2010 02:50 PM, Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) wrote: -LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 +LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 ${LDFLAGS} My existing, custom, entry for LDFLAGS breaks with this change. Not nice. %% grep LDFLAGS /etc/make.conf LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS},--hash-style=gnu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [funtoo] [bugzilla-daemon-abrp7r+bbdudnm+yrof...@public.gmane.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Nathan Phillip Brink
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 06:03:49PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 00:56:52 +0200 Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: Hi folks, YFYI: yet another of my ebuilds kicked-down. It's an improved version of procmail, which automatically creates missing maildir

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/default/linux: make.defaults

2010-07-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 23:53:07 -0500 Jeremy Olexa darks...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/11/2010 02:50 PM, Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) wrote: -LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 +LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 ${LDFLAGS} My existing, custom, entry for LDFLAGS breaks with this change. Not nice. %% grep LDFLAGS /etc/make.conf