Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 21:01:02 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 09/07/14 18:35, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > > В письме от Вт, 8 июля 2014 18:22:50 пользователь Samuli Suominen > > написал: > >> It seems to me like people aren't making the effort of joining to > >> the team and meeting th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 09:06:11 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 09/07/14 07:24, Tom Wijsman wrote: > >> [...] confusions with newer people... > > Ironically; my first Portage tree action "add a directory" got a > > "don't throw [expletive] into [games category]" reply, before > > adding the ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Is || ( Atom... ) broken?

2014-07-09 Thread Greg Turner
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Have you /tried/ backtrack=0? Yeah. I had backtrack=1 as my default for a good while before my overlay started getting cray-cray. It's fast -- well, less slow -- but diagnostically unhelpful when anything goes "wrong". I gues

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 09/07/14 18:35, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > В письме от Вт, 8 июля 2014 18:22:50 пользователь Samuli Suominen написал: >> It seems to me like people aren't making the effort of joining to the >> team and meeting the high quality >> ebuild syntax they've kept up... > Samuli! With all my r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Sergey Popov wrote: > But, honesly, i can not see problem in this. We have similar problem in > ARM team, which was fixed by electing new leads by those, who really did > most of ARM stuff AND actively responds on e-mails. Doing this and giving the games team a ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting out arm keywords

2014-07-09 Thread Mikle Kolyada
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 09.07.2014 20:10, Manuel Rüger ?: > On 07/09/2014 01:40 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> On 07/09/14 05:09, Joshua Kinard wrote: >>> On 07/08/2014 21:48, Matthew Thode wrote: arm has a historical problem with stabilization, while keywording >

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting out arm keywords

2014-07-09 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2014 09:48 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: > arm has a historical problem with stabilization, while keywording > doesn't require access to all arm sub-arches the problem with the > stabilization slowness causes running a full ~arm to become hard. By

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting out arm keywords

2014-07-09 Thread Manuel Rüger
On 07/09/2014 01:40 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 07/09/14 05:09, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> On 07/08/2014 21:48, Matthew Thode wrote: >>> arm has a historical problem with stabilization, while keywording >>> doesn't require access to all arm sub-arches the problem with the >>> stabilization slown

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
В письме от Вт, 8 июля 2014 18:22:50 пользователь Samuli Suominen написал: > It seems to me like people aren't making the effort of joining to the > team and meeting the high quality > ebuild syntax they've kept up... Samuli! With all my respect to you personally, please, don't tell anything abou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Sergey Popov
09.07.2014 03:08, hasufell пишет: > Pacho Ramos: >> >> What kind of games packages does he want to maintain in a "strictly" >> way? Maybe one way to cooperate would be to have two herds: >> - games-base (or similar) -> the more "stricter" and the one Mr_Bones >> would likely still prefer to handle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Looking for alternative to RESTRICT=userpriv

2014-07-09 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-07-08, o godz. 16:17:02 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Michał Górny wrote: > > > b) SUPPLEMENTARY_GROUPS support [2]. The idea is to use setgroups() > > to transparently enable group membership for the build process. > > > Advantages: > > > - transparent, rela

[gentoo-dev] Re: Is || ( Atom... ) broken?

2014-07-09 Thread Duncan
Greg Turner posted on Wed, 09 Jul 2014 02:52:31 -0700 as excerpted: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> But from the sound of things, default backtrack=10, multilib, full >> @system set and default profile use, on spinning rust, is getting all >> but intolerab

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting out arm keywords

2014-07-09 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/09/14 05:09, Joshua Kinard wrote: On 07/08/2014 21:48, Matthew Thode wrote: arm has a historical problem with stabilization, while keywording doesn't require access to all arm sub-arches the problem with the stabilization slowness causes running a full ~arm to become hard. By that I mean

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: virtual/perl-Filter

2014-07-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag 08 Juli 2014, 12:57:59 schrieb Kent Fredric: > On 8 July 2014 06:59, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > # Filter never was part of core Perl, no idea why we have a virtual. > > # It was moved from perl-core to dev-perl and the virtual will be > > # removed. Please depend on dev-perl/Filter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Is || ( Atom... ) broken?

2014-07-09 Thread Greg Turner
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > But from the sound of things, default backtrack=10, multilib, full > @system set and default profile use, on spinning rust, is getting all but > intolerable now. =:^( Actually a mix of RAID0 and RAID1 over fast, new-ish SSDs --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for alternative to RESTRICT=userpriv

2014-07-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 07/08/2014 09:25, Michał Górny wrote: > > 3) qmail-related ebuilds that needed to access restricted files (no > details yet). I believe this relates to /var access. qmail is noted in our security guide[1] for its desire to want to install itself into /var/qmail[2], including binaries, libs, e

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting out arm keywords

2014-07-09 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 07/08/2014 21:48, Matthew Thode wrote: > arm has a historical problem with stabilization, while keywording > doesn't require access to all arm sub-arches the problem with the > stabilization slowness causes running a full ~arm to become hard. By > that I mean that if someone keywords something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:06 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 09/07/14 07:24, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> [...] confusions with newer people... >> Ironically; my first Portage tree action "add a directory" got a "don't >> throw [expletive] into [games category]" reply, before adding the ebuild. >> >> O

[gentoo-dev] Re: The request to abolish games team policy

2014-07-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 08 Jul 2014, Jonathan Callen wrote: > On 07/08/2014 08:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> It certainly differs between distros. Debian generally uses >> /usr/games and has a games group for score files. Fedora has chosen >> to ignore the FHS and installs everything in /usr/bin. IIUC, th