Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce ppc64le architecture into gentoo ! please share your comments

2015-09-17 Thread Leno Hou
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 8/12/15 3:47 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > >> >> 4. I would like become a developer of porting gentoo on ppc64le. Anyone >>> could help/mentor me to join this project ? >>> >> ideally someone on the ppc side

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introduce ppc64le architecture into gentoo ! please share your comments

2015-09-17 Thread Leno Hou
*Leno Hou* E-mail : leno...@gmail.com Phone : 185-0093-5995 On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Leno Hou wrote: > > This is a great pleasure to announce that we've made ppc64le stage 3. > > 1. We've successfully compiled stage 3 for ppc64le. The stage 3 covers > most useful

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:31:04 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2015-09-16, o godz. 17:49:24 > "Andreas K. Huettel" napisał(a): > > > Hi all, > > > > here's a quote from the Council 20140826 summary: > > > > > Dynamic dependencies in Portage > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 9/17/15 7:05 AM, James Le Cuirot wrote: >> >> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:57:08 -0400 >> "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: >> >>> Totally rethink the idea of emails aliases as something that is >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/16/2015 07:09 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: >> Hi all, .. > > I'll go ahead and start a tangent on this thread right here. As a > first step can we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/17/2015 12:27 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Ian Stakenvicius > wrote: >> .. > > So, part of me really wonders if it is worth it just to save a > bunch of revbumps that probably could be done

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 07:20 -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 9/17/15 7:05 AM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:57:08 -0400 > > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > > > > > Totally rethink the idea of emails aliases as something that is > > > created on the fly.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 17 września 2015 11:07:43 CEST, "Anthony G. Basile" napisał(a): >On 9/17/15 4:35 AM, Justin (jlec) wrote: >> On 16/09/15 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote: >>> On 09/16/2015 04:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: So, what are your thoughts for unmessing this? >>> Herds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 9/17/15 6:32 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 17 września 2015 11:07:43 CEST, "Anthony G. Basile" napisał(a): On 9/17/15 4:35 AM, Justin (jlec) wrote: On 16/09/15 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote: On 09/16/2015 04:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: So, what are your thoughts for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 16 września 2015 23:51:20 CEST, "Andreas K. Huettel" napisał(a): >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA512 > >Am Mittwoch, 16. September 2015, 23:43:43 schrieb Matthew Thode: > >> >> Herds are groups of developers that can then be mapped to a package. >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:57:08 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > Totally rethink the idea of emails aliases as something that is > created on the fly. We just need to know who should get emails for a > package when it comes to bug reports. Why can't that be calculated > on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 9/17/15 7:05 AM, James Le Cuirot wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:57:08 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: Totally rethink the idea of emails aliases as something that is created on the fly. We just need to know who should get emails for a package when it comes to bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Justin (jlec)
On 16/09/15 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote: > On 09/16/2015 04:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Right now we kinda have three layers of team package maintainership >> in Gentoo: >> >> 1. e-mail aliases + bugzilla accounts, >> >> 2. herds, >> >> 3. projects. >> >> Now if we get into the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 9/17/15 4:35 AM, Justin (jlec) wrote: On 16/09/15 23:43, Matthew Thode wrote: On 09/16/2015 04:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote: So, what are your thoughts for unmessing this? Herds are groups of developers that can then be mapped to a package. Herds are a group of packages, which are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 17 września 2015 12:57:08 CEST, "Anthony G. Basile" napisał(a): >On 9/17/15 6:32 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> >> Dnia 17 września 2015 11:07:43 CEST, "Anthony G. Basile" > napisał(a): >>> On 9/17/15 4:35 AM, Justin (jlec) wrote: On 16/09/15

[gentoo-dev] New eclass: ros-catkin.eclass, new USE_EXPAND: ROS_MESSAGES, new categories: dev-ros and ros-meta for review.

2015-09-17 Thread Alexis Ballier
Hi all, As part of an effort of bringing ros (http://www.ros.org/) to Gentoo, I've come up with the following design: ros-catkin.eclass that is a template, merging all common code for catkinized ros packages. ROS_MESSAGES will be a new USE_EXPANDed variable: ROS is message based, processes

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: ros-catkin.eclass, new USE_EXPAND: ROS_MESSAGES, new categories: dev-ros and ros-meta for review.

2015-09-17 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 18:36:06 +0200 Alexis Ballier wrote: > ROS_MESSAGES will be a new USE_EXPANDed variable: ROS is message > based, processes write and listen to some topic, and a topic is typed > with a message. Messages are defined by simple text files but are then >

[gentoo-dev] https://packages.gentoo.org/ and Changelogs

2015-09-17 Thread Joakim Tjernlund
The Changelogs on https://packages.gentoo.org/ are old, from before the git migration. Could this be fixed? Jocke

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH dtd] herds: Remove no-longer usable element

2015-09-17 Thread Michał Górny
was used to 'copy' herd member lists from project pages. However, it was never properly supported by tools and it is no longer usable since project pages were moved to the Wiki. --- herds.dtd | 6 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/herds.dtd b/herds.dtd index

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH dtd] herds: Remove no-longer usable element

2015-09-17 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-09-17, o godz. 22:10:53 Ulrich Mueller napisał(a): > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > > > was used to 'copy' herd member lists from project > > pages. However, it was never properly supported by tools and it is no > > longer usable since project pages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:14:59 +0100 Markos Chandras wrote: > could someone explain what the dynamic dependencies are in the context > of portage and ebuilds? because that does seem to be something > portage-internal specific in the way it handles changes in {,R}DEPEND >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 21:02:02 +0100 Markos Chandras wrote: > On 09/17/2015 12:05 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:57:08 -0400 > > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > > > >> Totally rethink the idea of emails aliases as something that is >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/17/2015 12:05 PM, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:57:08 -0400 > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > >> Totally rethink the idea of emails aliases as something that is >> created on the fly. We just need to know who should get emails for a >> package when it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/16/2015 04:49 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Hi all, > > here's a quote from the Council 20140826 summary: > >> Dynamic dependencies in Portage >> === >> During discussion, is was remarked that some changes, e.g. to >> dependencies in eclasses, could require

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-09-16, o godz. 23:25:33 Michał Górny napisał(a): > So, what are your thoughts for unmessing this? For completeness, a semi-conservative idea that could be implemented relatively easily. 1. Stop caring about names. If people want to call it a project, let it be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH dtd] herds: Remove no-longer usable element

2015-09-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > was used to 'copy' herd member lists from project > pages. However, it was never properly supported by tools and it is no > longer usable since project pages were moved to the Wiki. -1 Let's please first decide on the greater scheme of projects,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Michael Orlitzky
Replying somewhere randomly with an idea. Since projects are now on the wiki, why don't we use that as the canonical source of project members? It's machine readable, although not so nice to have it located outside the repo/ldap. The email alias would then be auto-generated from the project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/17/2015 05:22 PM, Duncan wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh posted on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:31:36 +0100 as excerpted: > >> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:14:59 +0100 Markos Chandras >> wrote: >>> could someone explain what the dynamic dependencies are in the context >>> of portage and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > So council was called in, and it asked the portage folks to take some > steps that, portage development being what it is, had the effect of > slowing down and delaying things for long enough that, hopefully, people > have had

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Duncan
Kristian Fiskerstrand posted on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 13:43:47 +0200 as excerpted: > fwiw, I've been running for quite a while with dynamic deps disabled on > a few of my computers for quite some time, specifically the workstations > (desktop/laptop), and the sun hasn't dropped out of the sky yet.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:31:36 +0100 as excerpted: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:14:59 +0100 Markos Chandras > wrote: >> could someone explain what the dynamic dependencies are in the context >> of portage and ebuilds? because that does seem to be something

[gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass: ros-catkin.eclass, new USE_EXPAND: ROS_MESSAGES, new categories: dev-ros and ros-meta for review.

2015-09-17 Thread Duncan
Alexis Ballier posted on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 18:36:06 +0200 as excerpted: > if [ "${PV#}" != "${PV}" ] ; then > SCM="git-r3" > fi [and elsewhere] I've seen this asked in other eclass review contexts, but not for awhile... Since gentoo requires bash, why are you using old borne shell

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:43:02PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > a) Disallow the term "herd". Noone uses it correctly anyway. > > b) package is "in herd" -> package is "maintained by project" > > b') in metadata.xml x -> y +1 on each. > b'') simple and stupid mapping project y -> alias

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dynamic dependencies

2015-09-17 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 21:46:50 -0400 as excerpted: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> So council was called in, and it asked the portage folks to take some >> steps that, portage development being what it is, had the effect of >> slowing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inconsistent and messy layout of team maintainership in Gentoo

2015-09-17 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-09-17, o godz. 17:19:17 Michael Orlitzky napisał(a): > Replying somewhere randomly with an idea. > > Since projects are now on the wiki, why don't we use that as the > canonical source of project members? It's machine readable, although not > so nice to have it