Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

2009-08-03 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Thomas Anderson wrote: In general, the quiz is supposed to test and educate recruits about Gentoo development practices. But if all parts of a question are asked in questions like that(where it's obvious that 'no' isn't a valid answer) it's just going to result in more googling rather than

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: www-servers/apache-2.0 friends

2008-01-25 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Benedikt Böhm wrote: +# Benedikt Böhm [EMAIL PROTECTED] (12 Jan 2008) +# Masked for apache-2.0 removal, bug #203578 +dev-cpp/cppserv I'll take care of fixing cppserv ebuild one way or another in nearest few weeks. +=dev-libs/apr-0* +=dev-libs/apr-util-0* +=dev-util/subversion-1.3*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-12 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200 Benjamin Judas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only on mailinglists but also in irc-channels; not only against developers but also against volunteering users. So do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-12 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200 Benjamin Judas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only on mailinglists but also in irc-channels; not only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-11 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:44 -0600 Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. this thread is a good example of something that would belong on gentoo-project. ;) And this is why it's a bad idea: it's moving criticism away from where people will actually read it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Marius Mauch wrote: Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads from -dev to that new list. We might need some sort of

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

2007-06-07 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Steev Klimaszewski wrote: Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: Do you really think people would voluntarily use it? That's an honest question, maybe people are fair enough to do it, but I have serious doubts about it. It's of no use if people have to be told to move threads

Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning

2007-06-05 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Perhaps it would be a good time to try another approach to the problem? How about proctors that are responsible for ensuring any arguments stay within bounds of technical discussion and formal logic rules? Chris Gianelloni wrote: I really have to agree with you. The proctors have completely

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bye2u Gentoo

2007-05-31 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Christian Faulhammer wrote: Alexander Færøy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am really going to miss a lot of you guys. Especially the ones I met during FOSDEM. Hope to see you there next year as well! Damn! Who can I bash now regarding MIPS? I guess you should have thought about it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye2u Gentoo

2007-05-31 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Grmbl Can you do us a favor and provide us with a clone, for doing MIPS keywording? Alexander Færøy wrote: Hey, It is my time to leave Gentoo as well. It has been some exciting months and I have learned a lot from many of you guys. It has been interesting to be in one of the major open

Re: [gentoo-dev] April Council meeting summary

2007-04-13 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:45:13 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PMS: - should be up and running on Gentoo infra by next meeting What is the justification for making this change? It's already inconvenient enough having to have someone else

Re: [gentoo-dev] Flourish Conference Reminder

2007-04-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Seemant Kulleen wrote: All, Please except my apologies for the strong language in my initial response to this. I've been informed that Samir is the real deal and not just a marketing droid. Apology not accepted. Your language definitely wasn't strong enough. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-29 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Ned Ludd wrote: The correct reply should of been. I'm sorry I did not mean to offend anybody. I'll make an effort to not make any cheap shots Man, stop playing the silly Ooh, we are all so fragile and offendable game. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-17 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Rather then analyze the proposed solution, I'd like to question the problem itself. Do we really want to provide all the different intermediate development sort of releases in our tree? William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: After reviewing

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-17 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: IMHO I think it should be up to the package maintainer how close they want to follow upstream. With regard to development, progress, testing, qa, feedback. I think it's a very good thing, since it allows things to be caught before actual releases, during

Re: [gentoo-dev] Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
mailing list? -- Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh Total Knowledge. CTO http://www.total-knowledge.com -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Daniel Robbins wrote: However, I personally would not stay subscribed to gentoo-dev with Ciaran on the list. So, instead of quietly un-subscribing you launch in a huge flamefest, by hijacking an important discussion thread. I think there are others who have the same perspective and tend to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Little respect towards Daniel please

2007-03-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Hubert Mercier wrote: That's probably why it is so hard to renew developer pool. Why do people keep repeating this myth? As kloeri pointed out, developer base keeps growing constantly. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Argument resolution [was: Re: Little respect towards Daniel please]

2007-03-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Alex Tarkovsky wrote: By trying to silence parties involved in a disagreement you only force their differences to manifest in less desirble ways. And when that happens, things tend to get really ugly and it inevitably reflects back on Gentoo. Also, brushing things over to private email and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Argument resolution [was: Re: Little respect towards Daniel please]

2007-03-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
arguments according to formal logic rules, he is denied further turns to speak. Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: Alex Tarkovsky wrote: By trying to silence parties involved in a disagreement you only force their differences to manifest in less desirble ways. And when that happens, things tend

Re: [gentoo-dev] Argument resolution [was: Re: Little respect towards Daniel please]

2007-03-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Angel Olivera wrote: On Sun, Mar 04 2007 19:22, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: That's an interesting idea. It would be nice to have a discussion ML, which would have one simple rule enforced. Any discussion _must_ follow formal logic rules. Ensuring that rule is followed could be done

Re: [gentoo-dev] Only you can prevent broken portage trees

2006-11-02 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Michael Cummings wrote: Not attempting to join this ruckus - but I'll meekly raise my hand and say that'd be awesome. I have an account on a mips box, but its connection to the internet has been unstable in recent months (which I was warned about ahead of time - that isn't a gripe). Just FYI,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-22 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 22 October 2006 01:45, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: Let's look at reality here, OK? any reality that includes you makes me laugh -mike Good good! Laugh is good for your health, and you'll need lot of support in that area next time I see you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-22 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 22 October 2006 20:45, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: Good good! Laugh is good for your health, and you'll need lot of support in that area next time I see you... what you gonna do, climb up my trunk ? -mike I'm gonna drag you to the top

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Devrel Subproject: Gentoo Devmatch

2006-10-22 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
As far as volunteers, I'm in! Alec Warner wrote: Purpose: To increase funding for Gentoo Infrastructure and events. Overview: Developers volunteer to dual off against other developers (including retired developers!) in the ring. We then allow betting on the outcome of the match with

Re: [gentoo-dev] amd64 and ia64 keywords

2006-10-21 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Simon Stelling wrote: Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: | No worries, there are people who even wanted to merge amd64 with x86. Yeah, that's almost as daft as suggesting a single keyword to cover both sparc v8 and sparc v9, or ip22 and ip27. Err... No, IP22 and IP27

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Gentoo Commitfests

2006-10-21 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Ryan Hill wrote: Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote: So, are you proposing to encourage people to do commits for the sake of commits? Make people do revbumps/keywording just to get their commits in, without doing proper testing? Or to hold on number of commits till commitfest? I

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Alon Bar-Lev (alonbl)

2006-10-11 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Eldad Zack wrote: Christian Heim wrote: Its my pleasure to introduce to you Alon alonbl Bar-Lev, the latest addition joining to help out with the crypto herd. He hails from Israel (hrm, they don't have cities down there ?). So far it looks like Alon is completely constrained to his computer,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Setting number of parallel builds for other build-systems than 'make'

2006-10-04 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Well, O2K is up and running, so someone can go ahead and give it a shot at -j20 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:23:16 +0200 Tiziano Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:04:52 +0200 Tiziano Müller | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | |

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-12 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:44:22 -0700 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | 3) Prevents /etc/foo from matching /etc/foobaz or /etc/foobaz/bar. Is this really desired behaviour? Once we decide that, I'll have a testsuite we can use. It's written for Paludis, but easily

[gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team

2005-06-28 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Comrades! Once more, I come before you with sad tidings. Evil anti-gentoo conspirators are plotting to destroy our wonderful distribution. Yet again they tried to subvert quality and integrity of our distribution by falsely claiming that certain packages build and run *gasp* stable *gasp* on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keys and words: ways to fail your team

2005-06-28 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Peter Johanson wrote: I know this is intended to be tongue in cheek, Good. but I have a dev in the dotnet herd who's really pretty upset right now as a result of such apparently scathing comments accusing him of being an evil conspirator, a wrecker, and traitor, when it wasn't even *him* who