Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: snip a bunch about binpkg I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we need to be able to have multiple binpkg's of the same version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: snip a bunch about binpkg I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we need to be able to have multiple binpkg's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:55:50AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: A few rough ideas that just popped in my head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even sure if thats feasible) Ugly, binpkgs are bzip2ed tarballs + xpak at the end of the bzip2 stream, jamming multiple

[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Duncan
Chris Bainbridge posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:00:59 +: The problems being: 1) Manpower. There are already 10,000 open bugs in bugzilla (and growing) without adding more. 2) Lack of interest. Most developers aren't interested in supporting old

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 02:36 -0700, Duncan wrote: OTOH, it's entirely possible a Gentoo /based/ enterprise distribution may emerge at some point. IMO, however, there's enough conflict with what makes Gentoo great at what it does today, that such efforts should be separate from Gentoo itself.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 02:36 -0700, Duncan wrote: OTOH, it's entirely possible a Gentoo /based/ enterprise distribution may emerge at some point. IMO, however, there's enough conflict with what makes Gentoo great at what it does today, that such efforts should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Friday 06 January 2006 16:27, Lance Albertson wrote: As seen from the discussion earlier this week, I don't think Gentoo has the proper open-mindness to create a proper enterprise distro. This has nothing to with open-mindness, but having enough people doing the general maintenance of a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
Lance Albertson wrote: [Fri Jan 06 2006, 09:27:23AM CST] As seen from the discussion earlier this week, I don't think Gentoo has the proper open-mindness to create a proper enterprise distro. There are too many things that would get in the way of Gentoo proper to make it work right. I agree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
Grant Goodyear wrote: [Fri Jan 06 2006, 10:46:55AM CST] Addressing your point about Enterprise Gentoo, I think you're probably right about it needing focus, direction, and a leader, but that's quite different from needing Gentoo as a whole to have any of those. The Gentoo *BSD work is a good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 09:27:23AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 02:36 -0700, Duncan wrote: OTOH, it's entirely possible a Gentoo /based/ enterprise distribution may emerge at some point. IMO, however, there's enough conflict with what makes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: | As seen from the discussion earlier this week, I don't think Gentoo has | the proper open-mindness to create a proper enterprise distro. There are | too many things that would get in the way of Gentoo proper to make it | work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 09:27 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 02:36 -0700, Duncan wrote: OTOH, it's entirely possible a Gentoo /based/ enterprise distribution may emerge at some point. IMO, however, there's enough conflict with what makes Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:19 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Friday 06 January 2006 16:27, Lance Albertson wrote: As seen from the discussion earlier this week, I don't think Gentoo has the proper open-mindness to create a proper enterprise distro. This has nothing to with open-mindness,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Albertson
Duncan wrote: Chris Gianelloni posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:30:28 -0500: Perhaps a good explanation of the binpkg format would be in order to give us a chance to determine what could/should be changed? As I regularly use the binpkg features on