Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:38:24 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Mittwoch, 12.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 December 2012 14:29, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:38:24 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Remind me and the list again pls, why is this necessary rather than just using use.stable.mask and EAPI5 ebuilds in the regular profiles? This shouldn't break the tree with a non-EAPI5 portage as the files would just be ignored, as would the EAPI5

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 14:36:49 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 14 December 2012 14:29, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:38:24 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 13 December 2012 21:46, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:39:56 -0500 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: Remind me and the list again pls, why is this necessary rather than just using use.stable.mask and EAPI5 ebuilds in the regular profiles? This shouldn't break the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Markos Chandras
On 14 December 2012 14:59, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: We already have plenty of understaffed arches, I don't think it is wise to throw more responsibilities to them. Unless of course all developers are allowed to touch these *stable* profiles which personally I don't like because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:08:24 + Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 14 December 2012 14:59, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: We already have plenty of understaffed arches, I don't think it is wise to throw more responsibilities to them. Unless of course all developers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just the same. Except for the fact that it will be a bit cleaner, not require EAPI=5 at all and probably make arch testing a bit easier for a few people. Sounds good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just the same. Except for the fact that it will be a bit cleaner, not require EAPI=5

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/13/2012 12:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:33:50 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012, 11:30:17 schrieb Zac Medico: Yes, and having 'stable' and 'unstable' profiles will work just the same. Except for the fact that it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:25 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-12 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/12/2012 01:32 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:44:25 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files. Require users to migrate to those profiles

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-11 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/11/2012 01:45 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:35:07 -0800 Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files.

[gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, I think we're mostly aware what the use and benefits of the *use.stable.mask files are. They would be at least really useful in Python ebuilds, where we have to either: a) forcedly stabilize a particular Python implementation (like pypy), b) don't support it all, c) or just keep two

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/12/12 04:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, I think we're mostly aware what the use and benefits of the *use.stable.mask files are. They would be at least really useful in Python ebuilds, where we have to either: a) forcedly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:01:34 -0500 Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/12/12 04:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, I think we're mostly aware what the use and benefits of the *use.stable.mask files are. They would be at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting EAPI 5 *use.stable.mask to work in gx86?

2012-12-10 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/10/2012 01:27 PM, Michał Górny wrote: 1) duplicate most of the major profiles. Make an EAPI 5-enabled wrapper profiles which will provide the *use.stable.mask files. Require users to migrate to those profiles after getting an EAPI 5 capable package manager (how?). Possibly mask the