Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2009-08-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Sebastian Pippingwebmas...@hartwork.org wrote: I would love to see the GLEP on CPE names in metadata.xml discussed, http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg35155.html Any guidance on what I need to do to make it happen is very welcome. Please

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2009-08-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2009-08-01 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Mike Frysinger wrote: If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. I would love to see the GLEP on CPE names in metadata.xml discussed,

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2008-08-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2007-08-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2007-08-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 01 August 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! as discussed on the gentoo-council list, it'll be postponed a week due to LWE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-15 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 8/14/06, Thierry Carrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Council will meet on Thursday, August 17, 1900 UTC. AFAICT agenda is at the moment empty. Here's something I'd like to see the council address. We've just had baselayout-1.12 go stable. You might have missed this, because there's no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Wernfried Haas wrote: Could you (or someone else) send out the agenda and a second reminder a short while (e.g. 1-2 days) before the actual meeting. I'd very much appreciate that, and i guess others may too. The Council will meet on Thursday, August 17, 1900 UTC. AFAICT agenda is at the moment

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Curtis Napier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:21 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Curtis Napier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: MD5 Curtis Napier wrote: Yes indeed it is impressive hardware at a pretty kickass facility :) I got to chat with the CEO of the company that donated that equipment and the wait was *more* than worth it. Once it's up and running our bugzilla will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: I'm not out to blame anybody, but if infra had communicated what the problem exactly is once they found it out, you wouldn't have ended up with all those I'm sick and tired of your we're working on it. Asking people for patience is easy, but it's hard to swallow when

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Joshua Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: Curtis Napier wrote: I got to chat with the CEO of the company that donated that equipment and the wait was *more* than worth it. Once it's up and running our bugzilla will be rock solid and fast fast fast fast fast for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Alec Warner
Here's the question, gnome's bugzilla has over twice as many bugs as we have, is quite speedy and doesn't seem to suffer from the OOM killers that our bugzilla has. So what's the difference? Did gnome just toss hardware at the problem to make it go away or have they done something to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread kashani
Joshua Jackson wrote: Here's the question, gnome's bugzilla has over twice as many bugs as we have, is quite speedy and doesn't seem to suffer from the OOM killers that our bugzilla has. So what's the difference? Did gnome just toss hardware at the problem to make it go away or have they done

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: In the new system the massive search query will run on the slave system, and it won't affect people making changes; hoewever there may be soem delay between data replication from the master to the slave(s), but that would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:07:44AM -0700, kashani wrote: Another technique is to change high transaction tables to Innodb table format. Innodb is going to be roughly 30% slower than MyISAM for selects and take up much more space on disk approx 3-5x larger. However it has row

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Matthew Marlowe
iWho knows, maybe its worth finding another bug database app, or even be crazy and write our own for a long term solution. If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining mindshare rather

Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August)

2006-08-04 Thread Peter Gordon
Matthew Marlowe wrote: If we could get a license donated, my vote would be to switch to Atlassian Jira, http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira. It seems to be gaining mindshare rather quickly, and the company I work for just shelled out $2,400 because they liked it so much more than

Re: Gentoo's Social Contract Bugzilla (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August)

2006-08-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 16:30:03 -0700 Peter Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Maybe it's just me, but I think that having such a core component of | the distribution be proprietary is in complete violation of Gentoo's | Social Contract[1] (if not the letter of it, then its spirit of | openness). It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Jakub Moc
Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! Would like the Council to discuss the current state of Gentoo Bugzilla [1] and anon CVS/SVN [2]. Thanks. [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:21 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! Would like the Council to discuss the current state of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:21 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! Would like the Council to discuss the current

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 11:21 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Jakub Moc
Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Would like the Council to discuss the current state of Gentoo Bugzilla [1] and anon CVS/SVN [2]. Please elaborate why you need the council to discuss ongoing active bugs that are in progress. Progress? Erm... see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:07 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:06 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Would like the Council to discuss the current state of Gentoo Bugzilla [1] and anon CVS/SVN [2]. Please elaborate why you need the council to discuss ongoing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Jakub Moc wrote: I would also like to know why the council has to be involved since you've never sent an email to infra specifically asking the same thing first. Sure makes sense to me that you should ask the group involved with the work first instead of going to the top. Because it's been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Jakub Moc
Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 16:07 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Because it's been broken for ages? Because I've asked the same on the bug I've referred to multiple times, as did quite a few other people, and the thing is still dead ~3 hours a day? (So uhm, the argument that infra doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Jakub Moc
Lance Albertson wrote: Anyways, if you would like, I can send you an update to the bug every week until it gets completed. I'd just love to see this fixed and working, first of all... ;) My guess (sparing any huge hurdles), is that we can have the new bugs up by the end of this month.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Simon Stelling
Jakub Moc wrote: Broken bugzilla affects every ebuild dev, affects GDP, affects bug wranglers, affects anyone else who's using it to track outstanding project issues. How is this continuous borkage not a global issue that council should discuss? What is there to discuss? Do you expect them to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Alec Warner
No, not really. Just that I'd expect kinda more proactive approach than the one demonstrated fex. in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128588#c29 (and a bit more flexible approach to other alternatives, such as HW/hosting offers we've received before) and that have been declined for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 19:03 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: Jakub Moc wrote: Broken bugzilla affects every ebuild dev, affects GDP, affects bug wranglers, affects anyone else who's using it to track outstanding project issues. How is this continuous borkage not a global issue that council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:20 +, Alec Warner wrote: No, not really. Just that I'd expect kinda more proactive approach than the one demonstrated fex. in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128588#c29 (and a bit more flexible approach to other alternatives, such as HW/hosting offers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:51:55 -0500 Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There are more constructive ways of finding out the status of a | problem/solution. Actually, with that in mind I think the council could be of help here... The bugs slowdown *is* a serious problem, and Jakub's failing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Alec Warner wrote: I bet if I was infra I'd be wondering what my options were since: bugs is a pretty critical part of developing; AND you can't just host it anywhere; AND the hardware needed for it to perform is expensive; AND they did not know what the problem was at first Yes, its been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Patrick Lauer wrote: (Note to our sponsors: you rock. Keep on rocking.) Right now bugs is served from a 2,4Ghz P4 - that's roughly a normal desktop box from last year. You have no concept of where the bottle neck is. The webserver hosting the cgi part isn't being loaded hardly at all. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:51:55 -0500 Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There are more constructive ways of finding out the status of a | problem/solution. Actually, with that in mind I think the council could be of help here... The bugs slowdown *is* a serious

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:48 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Patrick Lauer wrote: (Note to our sponsors: you rock. Keep on rocking.) Right now bugs is served from a 2,4Ghz P4 - that's roughly a normal desktop box from last year. You have no concept of where the bottle neck is. I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Chris Bainbridge
Hi, On 03/08/06, Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have no concept of where the bottle neck is. The webserver hosting the cgi part isn't being loaded hardly at all. The database server is a pretty beefy box, and again, its not so much a specific hardware limitation, just more a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread kashani
Chris Bainbridge wrote: I'm curious what the problem is with bugzilla and it's db interactions? You're suggesting a specific issue rather than general db performance issues like fs, io scheduling, raid1, hyperthreads, etc.? It's most likely related to Bugzilla using MyISAM tables by default

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Bainbridge wrote: Hi, On 03/08/06, Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have no concept of where the bottle neck is. The webserver hosting the cgi part isn't being loaded hardly at all. The database server is a pretty beefy box, and again, its not so much a specific hardware

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
kashani wrote: Chris Bainbridge wrote: I'm curious what the problem is with bugzilla and it's db interactions? You're suggesting a specific issue rather than general db performance issues like fs, io scheduling, raid1, hyperthreads, etc.? It's most likely related to Bugzilla using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Jochen Maes
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:48 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Patrick Lauer wrote: (Note to our sponsors: you rock. Keep on rocking.) Right now bugs is served from a 2,4Ghz P4 - that's roughly a normal desktop box from last year. You have no concept of where the bottle neck is. I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Jochen Maes
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 13:20 +, Alec Warner wrote: No, not really. Just that I'd expect kinda more proactive approach than the one demonstrated fex. in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128588#c29 (and a bit more flexible approach to other alternatives, such as HW/hosting offers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Jochen Maes
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:51:55 -0500 Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There are more constructive ways of finding out the status of a | problem/solution. Actually, with that in mind I think the council could be of help here... The bugs slowdown *is* a serious problem, and Jakub's

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-01 Thread Wernfried Haas
Could you (or someone else) send out the agenda and a second reminder a short while (e.g. 1-2 days) before the actual meeting. I'd very much appreciate that, and i guess others may too. cheers, Wernfried PS: I know _i_ could volunteer as i already suggested it, but then we want someone