Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-19 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 18 Dec 2021, Joshua Kinard wrote: > Maybe consider three new top-level categories?: > - print-drivers > - print-filters > - print-misc net-print is already a small category with only 35 packages, so IMHO splitting it up into three tiny categories wouldn't make much sense.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-18 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 12/18/2021 19:19, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> Maybe consider three new top-level categories?: >> - print-drivers >> - print-filters >> - print-misc > > Only if you take care of them. printing project is somewhat understaffed. > I wish I had the time, as well as the knowledge. I do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Maybe consider three new top-level categories?: > - print-drivers > - print-filters > - print-misc Only if you take care of them. printing project is somewhat understaffed. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-17 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 12/17/2021 11:56, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:00:48 +0100 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: >> On Montag, 20. Februar 2017 22:47:17 CET Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >>> Hey all, >>> >>> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. >>> >>> Something that converts format a to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-17 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:00:48 +0100 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: > On Montag, 20. Februar 2017 22:47:17 CET Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > > > > Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-17 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, Andreas Sturmlechner wrote: > On Montag, 20. Februar 2017 22:47:17 CET Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. >> >> Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely >> nothing to do with network. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-17 Thread Andreas Sturmlechner
On Montag, 20. Februar 2017 22:47:17 CET Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Hey all, > > 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > > Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely > nothing to do with network. > So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-28 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 02/28/2017 03:00 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > That way people don't get tricked into reading PMS and then using it as > grounds > to break Gentoo policies. > > It *should* go without saying, but its better to be assume the reader doesn't > know > what "should go without saying" entails.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:44:26 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Maybe. But splitting documentation of one issue into several > documents may confuse readers. We already have "hyphen" in a > category name being mentioned in the PMS, so this should be either > clarified in the PMS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Maybe. But splitting documentation of one issue into several > documents may confuse readers. We already have "hyphen" in a > category name being mentioned in the PMS, so this should be either > clarified in the PMS or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-27 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:55:05 -0600 Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Savchenko > wrote: [...] > > OK, let's say "should", or ever better explain details, e.g.: > > > > All newly created categories should follow "group-qualificator" > > pattern, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-27 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 21:30:23 -0500 NP-Hardass wrote: > On 02/23/2017 03:58 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:45 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> > https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html#x1-180003.1.1 "Category

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-27 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 02/27/2017 03:30 AM, NP-Hardass wrote: > Might be best that this not be a PMS thing, but a Gentoo-specific > recommendation for developers conveyed via the Devmanual. That's > typically the place where Gentoo specifics are added in, like "New > virtuals shouldn't be added without posting on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-26 Thread NP-Hardass
On 02/23/2017 03:58 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:45 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html#x1-180003.1.1 "Category Names" >> >>> I don't see a requirement here, only note on most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-26 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:16:15 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:58:50 +0300 > > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:45 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-26 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:16:15 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:58:50 +0300 > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:45 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > > >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:58:50 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:45 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > >> https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html#x1-180003.1.1 > > >> "Category Names" > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-23 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:45 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > >> https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html#x1-180003.1.1 "Category Names" > > > I don't see a requirement here, only note on most common pattern: > > > ``Note: A hyphen is not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html#x1-180003.1.1 "Category Names" > I don't see a requirement here, only note on most common pattern: > ``Note: A hyphen is not required because of the virtual category. > Usually, however, category

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-22 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 07:10:25 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2017, Gordon Pettey wrote: > > > There is no requirement for category names to be x-y. > > https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html#x1-180003.1.1 "Category Names" I don't see a requirement here, only note on most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-22 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:08:38 + "M. J. Everitt" wrote: > find me another category without X-Y pattern? cat /usr/portage/profiles/categories | grep -v '[-]' virtual pgpyWRFPdbHbr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017, Gordon Pettey wrote: > There is no requirement for category names to be x-y. https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html#x1-180003.1.1 "Category Names" pgpj2063_n6TN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 22/02/17 02:48, Gordon Pettey wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:05 PM, M. J. Everitt > wrote: > > On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > >> Hey all, >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:05 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > >> Hey all, > >> > >> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > >> > >> Something that converts

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 21/02/17 08:53, Lars Wendler wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:47:17 +0100 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. >> >> Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has >> absolutely nothing to do with network.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017, Lars Wendler wrote: >> 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. >> >> Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has >> absolutely nothing to do with network. >> So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware >> drivers,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-21 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 02/20/2017 11:11 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: > On 02/20/2017 03:47 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >> >> What do you think? > The question to me is 'is there a great enough need to > go through the pain of this?'. I would agree with this sentiment. The lesson is to put more care into naming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-20 Thread Matthew Thode
On 02/20/2017 03:47 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Hey all, > > 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > > Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely > nothing to do with network. > So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-20 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 20/02/17 21:47, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Hey all, > > 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. > > Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely > nothing to do with network. > So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware

[gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2017-02-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, 1) Putting printer drivers into "net-print" is silly. Something that converts format a to device-specific format b has absolutely nothing to do with network. So, a new category "sys-print", emphasizing that it's hardware drivers, (or "cups-drv"?) (or maybe "media-print"?) might make