Dnia 2015-01-26, o godz. 12:57:36
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what.
Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to
On 01/26/2015 03:57 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what.
Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to trigger a
rebuild when appropriate. We've had
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 09:19:19 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
what Michał claims is that 'foo' will want ffmpeg, no matter what.
Maybe he's talking about some case where portage failed to trigger a
rebuild when appropriate. We've had a number of bugs like this that
have been
On 01/23/2015 01:48 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:06:39 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
That's what I understand from Michał's comment (quoting him):
1. if you have dynamic-deps enabled, portage will want to install
both ffmpeg (because of :=) and libav
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:06:39 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
That's what I understand from Michał's comment (quoting him):
1. if you have dynamic-deps enabled, portage will want to install
both ffmpeg (because of :=) and libav (because of ||). The
effective deps will
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 02:50:44 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/21/2015 11:25 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
1. If portage uses crafted depstrings in its depgraph when
rebuilding a package and nobody is able to give me a good reason
_why_ this is needed, I really do not want to
On 01/21/2015 11:25 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
1. If portage uses crafted depstrings in its depgraph when rebuilding a
package and nobody is able to give me a good reason _why_ this is
needed, I really do not want to look at the code :)
It's the emerge --dynamic-deps option, which is enabled by
On 01/22/2015 03:11 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 02:50:44 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/21/2015 11:25 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
1. If portage uses crafted depstrings in its depgraph when
rebuilding a package and nobody is able to give me a good reason
Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 12:12:21
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:15:04 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 11:05:01
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
2. Subslots work correctly. Rebuilds are
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 19:21:28 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
1. What does || ( a b:= c:= ) mean? i.e. only some having
subslots.
This makes sense only when in DEPEND+RDEPEND (because of the :=), so
apply this (mostly copy/paste) for all such deps:
for a in 'a' 'b'
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:43:52 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-01-20, o godz. 09:13:19
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
For this reason, I would like to employ the solution used by
Exherbo. More specifically, use:
libav? ( media-libs/libav:= )
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 11:15:04 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 11:05:01
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
2. Subslots work correctly. Rebuilds are forced when the
chosen library is upgraded. Moreover, USE flag change causes
a
Dnia 2015-01-21, o godz. 11:05:01
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
2. Subslots work correctly. Rebuilds are forced when the chosen
library is upgraded. Moreover, USE flag change causes a rebuild
when user decides to change the ffmpeg provider.
No offense, but this
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:33:49 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/20/2015 10:20 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:28:21 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/20/2015 01:11 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
I think we can only make the safest assumption.
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:31:45 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello,
As we've discussed multiple times, the following kind of dependencies
is completely broken and can't work:
|| ( media-libs/libav:= media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
See end of the email.
For this reason, I would like
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:01:41 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/20/2015 12:13 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:31:45 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. Subslots work correctly. Rebuilds are forced when the chosen
library is upgraded. Moreover,
On 01/20/2015 12:13 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:31:45 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. Subslots work correctly. Rebuilds are forced when the chosen
library is upgraded. Moreover, USE flag change causes a rebuild when
user decides to change the ffmpeg
On 20/01/15 03:07, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 01/19/2015 05:44 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
I agree with your suggestion but I would prefer the Remi's approach of
letting people to know if they want ffmpeg or libav, otherwise it is
not so obvious to know what disabling/enabling one of that USE flags
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:13:19 +0100
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
More precisely: || ( a:= b c:= d ) is perfectly defined (in
the what it means sense, not in PMS sense).
It really isn't... || ( a b c ) only works currently if a, b and c can
be switched at runtime. If you're using it
On 01/20/2015 01:11 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:01:41 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/20/2015 12:13 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:31:45 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. Subslots work correctly. Rebuilds are forced when
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:28:21 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/20/2015 01:11 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:01:41 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/20/2015 12:13 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:31:45 +0100
Michał Górny
On 01/20/2015 10:20 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 09:28:21 -0800
Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 01/20/2015 01:11 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
I think we can only make the safest assumption. Even without
subslot, if you consider this: || ( a b c d ), with a and c
On 01/20/2015 05:31 AM, Luca Barbato wrote:
This triggered a repressed memory of a bug once filed against me:
https://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/01/tinderboxing-problems-missing-default-use-flags
I vaguely agree, but please address any hate mail to Diego.
Why?
It was a joke, but I
Dnia 2015-01-20, o godz. 09:13:19
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
For this reason, I would like to employ the solution used by Exherbo.
More specifically, use:
libav? ( media-libs/libav:= )
!libav? ( media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
This has two advantages:
1. gives
Dnia 2015-01-19, o godz. 23:09:55
Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Why not :
libav? ( media-libs/libav:= )
ffmpeg? ( media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
+ REQUIRED_USE=^^ ( libav ffmpeg )
I for one would never expect USE=-libav to enable ffmpeg (nor
USE=-ffmpeg to enable libav FWIW).
Two
On 01/19/2015 05:44 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
I agree with your suggestion but I would prefer the Remi's approach of
letting people to know if they want ffmpeg or libav, otherwise it is
not so obvious to know what disabling/enabling one of that USE flags
will end up causing without reading each
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2015-01-19, o godz. 23:09:55
Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Why not :
libav? ( media-libs/libav:= )
ffmpeg? ( media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
+ REQUIRED_USE=^^ ( libav ffmpeg )
I for one would never
El lun, 19-01-2015 a las 23:40 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
Dnia 2015-01-19, o godz. 23:09:55
Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Why not :
libav? ( media-libs/libav:= )
ffmpeg? ( media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
+ REQUIRED_USE=^^ ( libav ffmpeg )
I for one would never expect
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 08:31:45PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
Hello,
As we've discussed multiple times, the following kind of dependencies
is completely broken and can't work:
|| ( media-libs/libav:= media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
For this reason, I would like to employ the solution used by
Le 19/01/2015 23:40, Michał Górny a écrit :
1. Compatibility. USE=ffmpeg is already used for || ( libav ffmpeg ) in
a lot of packages. If we changed the meaning, libav users will end up
switching '-ffmpeg libav' per-package. Ugly.
2. Feature-oriented flags. USE=ffmpeg represents the generic
Dnia 2015-01-20, o godz. 08:36:56
Rémi Cardona r...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Le 19/01/2015 23:40, Michał Górny a écrit :
1. Compatibility. USE=ffmpeg is already used for || ( libav ffmpeg ) in
a lot of packages. If we changed the meaning, libav users will end up
switching '-ffmpeg libav'
Why not :
libav? ( media-libs/libav:= )
ffmpeg? ( media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
+ REQUIRED_USE=^^ ( libav ffmpeg )
I for one would never expect USE=-libav to enable ffmpeg (nor
USE=-ffmpeg to enable libav FWIW).
Rémi
Hello,
As we've discussed multiple times, the following kind of dependencies
is completely broken and can't work:
|| ( media-libs/libav:= media-libs/ffmpeg:= )
For this reason, I would like to employ the solution used by Exherbo.
More specifically, use:
libav? ( media-libs/libav:= )
Any comments?
Sounds good!
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