On Tuesday 27 December 2011 12:29:09 Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
On Wednesday 21 of December 2011 04:40:09 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 20:44:03 Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
I still think we should even make PN an unique identifier in order to
be able to purge categories...
On Wednesday 21 of December 2011 04:40:09 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 20:44:03 Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
I still think we should even make PN an unique identifier in order to be
able to purge categories... that's different story though...
a world without categories is a
On Monday 19 of December 2011 02:52:54 Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 01:08 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
[Why are there different Reply-To: headers in -dev and in -pms MLs?
Following up to both lists.]
I apologize for the mess; I had intended to bring the question up
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 20:44:03 Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
I still think we should even make PN an unique identifier in order to be
able to purge categories... that's different story though...
a world without categories is a *lot* worse than a world with $PN free
collisions
-mike
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
I am forced to agree with your points #1 and #2.
Good. :-)
$CATEGORY/$PN-$SLOT is optimized for the bookmark a document and go
back to it a week later use case, but you are correct that it would
work poorly for the quickly look up a doc that
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:07:45 +0100
Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El dom, 18-12-2011 a las 23:02 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
[...]
Q6: Why can't the dodoc/dohtml path be changed before EAPI-5?
A6: Because the path where dodoc and dohtml install files is part
of the PMS. Portage
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 01:41:00 -0500
Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote:
Using /usr/share/doc/$PN-$SLOT with exceptions for packages that have
the same ($PN, $SLOT) but different categories would not scale: it
turns out there are 100 of them in the main tree.
And I hope there will
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:02:07 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Shifting is unavoidable. SLOTs can change, categories can change,
package names can change.
We should really just abolish updates and handle changes by reinstalls
plus blockers. Updates are a huge pain, they cause all
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 05:23 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
Can we please avoid the bloat of another directory level here?
${CATEGORY}/${PN} will be even longer than ${PF} in most cases.
The problem is that ($PN, $CATEGORY) pairs are not
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:31:35 -0500
Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 03:41 +0100, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
For completeness, could you post a list of packages that would
benefit from your proposed changes? It's a little thing called
scope. :)
I cannot
At the moment, Gentoo documentation is supposed to be installed in
/usr/share/doc/$PF. Given the existence of slots, this directory
scheme makes little sense; versioning documentation directories with
$PF seems nearly as silly as would be e.g. appending $PVR to the
filenames of installed man
I basically agree, it's quite a great idea. Just a few comments though.
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 16:49:38 -0500
Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote:
* The package's documentation may be designed primarily for tools and
viewers which expect to load documentation files from a different
Alexandre Rostovtsev schrieb:
Answers to anticipated questions:
Q8: SLOT can change after the package was installed. How to handle this
case?
Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
[Why are there different Reply-To: headers in -dev and in -pms MLs?
Following up to both lists.]
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
At the moment, Gentoo documentation is supposed to be installed in
/usr/share/doc/$PF. [...]
I propose the following changes, and will write them
On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 23:07 +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Alexandre Rostovtsev schrieb:
Answers to anticipated questions:
Q8: SLOT can change after the package was installed. How to handle this
case?
I think the slotmove should happen without renaming the documentation
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 01:08 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
[Why are there different Reply-To: headers in -dev and in -pms MLs?
Following up to both lists.]
I apologize for the mess; I had intended to bring the question up before
a wider audience, but failed to think through the consequences of
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 21:26:08 -0500
Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 23:02 +0100, Michał Górny wrote:
What if 'foo' has slot named 'bar', and there is unslotted 'foo-bar'
package? :P
There are no such examples in the tree. The only ebuilds I could find
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
Can we please avoid the bloat of another directory level here?
${CATEGORY}/${PN} will be even longer than ${PF} in most cases.
The problem is that ($PN, $CATEGORY) pairs are not unique. Think of
x11-terms/terminal:0 and
Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
Can we please avoid the bloat of another directory level here?
${CATEGORY}/${PN} will be even longer than ${PF} in most cases.
The problem is that ($PN, $CATEGORY) pairs are not unique. Think of
x11-terms/terminal:0 and
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 03:41 +0100, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
For completeness, could you post a list of packages that would benefit
from your proposed changes? It's a little thing called scope. :)
I cannot provide you the full list; for that I would have to rebuild the
full tree with USE=doc
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