Diamond diam...@hi-net.ru wrote:
There's no git cp command.
git mv is just git rm + git add.
I think there is a misunderstanding about how git works.
If you are used to e.g. svn (I suppose with CVS it is similar)
then it makes an important difference whether you use
svn cp A B or /bin/cp A B,
Dnia 2014-09-16, o godz. 12:30:59
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com napisał(a):
On 16/09/2014 12:18, hasufell wrote:
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
I'm a user and I don't care.
I use diff. I only go to the Changelog when I can't
Dnia 2014-09-16, o godz. 10:52:13
W. Trevor King wk...@tremily.us napisał(a):
$ git pull --depth=1
for subsequent syncs. pym/_emerge/actions.py currently hardcodes ‘git
pull’ for the latter, and doesn't seem to have any code for the
former. On the other hand, it wouldn't be too terrible
Dnia 2014-09-16, o godz. 10:18:35
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
A bit off-topic but asking such a question usually makes some
developers point out that they are users too and they do care :).
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2014-09-16, o godz. 10:18:35
hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
A bit off-topic but asking such a question usually makes some
developers point out that
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote:
So the research that needs to be done first is to find out how often
our ChangeLog entries differ from the commit log. If it turns out that
they are identical in 99 % of all cases, then it obviously makes no
sense to
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36:45AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2014-09-16, o godz. 10:52:13
W. Trevor King napisał(a):
$ git pull --depth=1
for subsequent syncs. pym/_emerge/actions.py currently hardcodes
‘git pull’ for the latter, and doesn't seem to have any code for
the
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014, Rich Freeman wrote:
I'll add this to the next Council agenda. I think this is ripe for
discussion. The last discussion of this really wasn't aimed at git
anyway.
Some of the arguments back then were that a) ChangeLogs are aimed at
users, so they don't necessarily
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
On 16/09/2014 12:18, hasufell wrote:
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
I'm a user and I don't care.
I use diff. I only go to the Changelog when I can't determine the
maintainers intent from diff and the ebuild content. That happens maybe
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:18 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
I'm sure somebody will reply and say that they care.
It still seems like a lot of overhead to me for a very one-off
workflow. Maybe if portage
Rich Freeman:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:18 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
I'm sure somebody will reply and say that they care.
It still seems like a lot of overhead to me for a very one-off
El mar, 16-09-2014 a las 07:26 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:18 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
I'm sure somebody will reply and say that they care.
It still seems
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Maybe one option would be to kill Changelogs and provide a script to let
people get git messages and reformat them in a way similar as current
ChangeLog files, that way people will still be able to save this
information for
El mar, 16-09-2014 a las 09:55 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
Maybe one option would be to kill Changelogs and provide a script to let
people get git messages and reformat them in a way similar as current
ChangeLog files,
Anthony G. Basile posted on Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:43:09 -0400 as excerpted:
We could just push out the word that ChangeLogs are going away and they
have to read the git repo. That might be the easiest solution. I do
have users that quote my ChangeLogs though.
As such a user...
Given the
W. Trevor King posted on Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:33:46 -0700 as excerpted:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:29:44PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote:
I don't see any benefit to using rsync vs. a shallow clone as the
transmission protocol.
Other than the fact that before you dropped it you'd need to push a
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 05:35:08PM +, Duncan wrote:
W. Trevor King posted on Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:33:46 -0700 as excerpted:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:29:44PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote:
I don't see any benefit to using rsync vs. a shallow clone as the
transmission protocol.
Other
Rich Freeman posted on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:55:31 -0400 as excerpted:
Or they could just clone the git tree, and they can look at per-file
logs anytime they want to.
Give me ro access to a current git repo and I'll *VERY* happily leave
changelogs to history along with 8-track tapes and
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:52:13AM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote:
Oh, lovely :). Looks like that landed in 2.2.0 with 47e8d22d (Add
support for multiple repositories in `emerge --sync`, 2013-07-23).
Actually, ‘git pull’ support in one form or another dates back to
ba797c11 (Add --sync support
W. Trevor King posted on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:52:13 -0700 as excerpted:
Also, I don't see a way to say “use Git to sync, but keep a shallow
repository”.
Presumably at some point we'd get the PORTAGE_GIT* equivalent of the
PORTAGE_RSYNC* settings from make.conf, but settable in both make.conf
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 10:52:13 -0700
W. Trevor King wk...@tremily.us wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 05:35:08PM +, Duncan wrote:
W. Trevor King posted on Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:33:46 -0700 as
excerpted:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:29:44PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote:
I don't see any
Il 16/09/2014 20:02, Duncan ha scritto:
Rich Freeman posted on Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:55:31 -0400 as excerpted:
Or they could just clone the git tree, and they can look at per-file
logs anytime they want to.
Give me ro access to a current git repo and I'll *VERY* happily leave
changelogs to
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On 09/16/2014 05:18 AM, hasufell wrote:
Ulrich Mueller:
ChangeLogs are aimed at users
Did any1 ask them if they care?
If the tree switches to git and there's an option within
Portage/emerge to fetch via git instead of rsync, then I'd rather
On 14-09-2014 16:56:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
So, I don't really have a problem with your design. I still question
whether we still need to be generating changelogs - they seem
incredibly redundant. But, if people really want a redundant copy
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:53:43AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 14-09-2014 16:56:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
So, I don't really have a problem with your design. I still question
whether we still need to be generating changelogs - they seem
On 09/15/14 15:30, William Hubbs wrote:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:53:43AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 14-09-2014 16:56:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
So, I don't really have a problem with your design. I still question
whether we still need to be
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 09/15/14 15:30, William Hubbs wrote:
I would have no problem with the council revisiting/changing this.
I tend to agree that the ChangeLogs in the portage tree will be
obsoleted when we switch to git because
Dnia 2014-09-15, o godz. 15:55:35
Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On 09/15/14 15:30, William Hubbs wrote:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 09:53:43AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 14-09-2014 16:56:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
So, I
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:18:39PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2014-09-15, o godz. 15:55:35 Anthony G. Basile napisał(a):
If the argument is that there are no Changelogs in rsync, then
let's write git hooks to generate them when the repository is
mirrored to the rsync host. The only
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 01:29:44PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote:
I don't see any benefit to using rsync vs. a shallow clone as the
transmission protocol.
Other than the fact that before you dropped it you'd need to push a
‘emerge sync’ that could handle either rsync or Git, stabilize that
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Can't we just kill rsync then? The whole ChangeLog seems to take more
effort than the actual benefit it gives.
I'm not sure ditching rsync entirely is necessary - it might be more
trouble than it is worth as it is a very
Rich Freeman:
I'm not sure ditching rsync entirely is necessary - it might be more
trouble than it is worth as it is a very effective simple way to
distribute the tree. However, I'm not really opposed to it either.
The few people I personally know who use gentoo never use rsync for
On 09/15/14 16:49, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Can't we just kill rsync then? The whole ChangeLog seems to take more
effort than the actual benefit it gives.
I'm not sure ditching rsync entirely is necessary - it might be more
On 15-09-2014 15:58:00 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
If the argument is that there are no Changelogs in rsync, then let's write
git hooks to generate them when the repository is mirrored to the rsync
host. The only problem I see is with this is then adding ChangeLog to the
manifest and gpg
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Michał Górny wrote:
I think we should also merge gentoo-news glsa herds.xml into the
repository. They all reference Gentoo packages at a particular state
in time, and it would be much nicer to have them synced properly.
Not a good idea, because we may want to grant
Am Sonntag 14 September 2014, 15:17:41 schrieb Ulrich Mueller:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Michał Górny wrote:
I think we should also merge gentoo-news glsa herds.xml into the
repository. They all reference Gentoo packages at a particular state
in time, and it would be much nicer to have them
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Johannes Huber wrote:
Am Sonntag 14 September 2014, 15:17:41 schrieb Ulrich Mueller:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Michał Górny wrote:
I think we should also merge gentoo-news glsa herds.xml into the
repository. They all reference Gentoo packages at a particular state
in
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm quite tired of promises and all that perfectionist non-sense which
locks us up with CVS for next 10 years of bikeshed.
While I tend to agree with the sentiment, I don't think you're
actually targeting the problems that
Dnia 2014-09-14, o godz. 15:17:41
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014, Michał Górny wrote:
I think we should also merge gentoo-news glsa herds.xml into the
repository. They all reference Gentoo packages at a particular state
in time, and it would be much
Dnia 2014-09-14, o godz. 10:33:03
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Of course, that assumes infra is
going to cooperate quickly or someone else is willing to provide the
infra for it.
The infra components to a git infrastructure are one of the main
blockers at this point. I
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2014-09-14, o godz. 10:33:03
With git, we can finally do stuff like preparing everything and pushing
in one go. Rebasing or merging will be much easier then, since
the effective push rate will be smaller than current
Rich Freeman:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2014-09-14, o godz. 10:33:03
With git, we can finally do stuff like preparing everything and pushing
in one go. Rebasing or merging will be much easier then, since
the effective push rate will be
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:10 PM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote:
Let's try it with push access for every developer.
+1.
I'm pretty strongly opposed to leaving the history behind. I'd tend to
agree with Rich when he says that history conversion is pretty much a
solved problem, anyway.
hasufell posted on Sun, 14 Sep 2014 13:50:32 + as excerpted:
Jauhien Piatlicki:
Again, how will user check the integrity and authenticity if Manifests
are unsigned?
There is no regression if this isn't solved.
People who really care use emerge-webrsync.
If we use the proposed
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