On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Anthony G Basile wrote:
The other levels are files and projects. So this leads to the other
confusion, do you touch every file in the project when forking etc.
The answer appears to be that a file is the unit, but from practice
I've seen all three. What is correct is
On 11/20/2012 04:26 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Anthony G Basile wrote:
The other levels are files and projects. So this leads to the other
confusion, do you touch every file in the project when forking etc.
The answer appears to be that a file is the unit, but from practice
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On 20/11/12 04:26 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Anthony G Basile wrote:
The other levels are files and projects. So this leads to the
other confusion, do you touch every file in the project when
forking etc.
The answer
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
Talk to a lawyer if you disagree with this. The area of copyright law,
and software, is very well defined (with one exception of the major
change to add your copyright, and even then, there's an agreed apon
standard to
On 11/18/2012 11:34 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:21:20PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 11:22 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:05:05PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 09:58 PM, Greg KH wrote:
an on-topic discussion about copyright thread
Anthony G. Basile wrote:
The answer appears to be that a file is the unit
I personally consider it to be smaller; a number of lines within
a file, or even a single line, all depending on things.
//Peter
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Anthony G. Basile wrote:
The answer appears to be that a file is the unit
I personally consider it to be smaller; a number of lines within
a file, or even a single line, all depending on things.
Yup - any creative expression
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:41:54AM -0500, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
Thank you for these responses because they did help me understand
copyright/left better. I appreciate your expertise in the matter
and would hope I can draw on it again in the future, because despite
what you said a few emails
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:03:12AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
Talk to a lawyer if you disagree with this. The area of copyright law,
and software, is very well defined (with one exception of the major
change to add your
On 19/11/2012 09:02, Greg KH wrote:
I'm curious as to why this is? Didn't you learn about this in school
(if you went to school for software development), or from any company
you have worked for? At numerous companies I have worked for, it was
part of the introduction to company FOO, here's
Greg KH wrote:
this isn't obvious at first glance, go consult a copyright lawyer
for the specific details if you are curious about it.
Which, again, I strongly feel that the Foundation needs to do
+1
before anymore Copyright Gentoo Foundation marks get added to
_any_ files in our tree.
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:03:12AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
That's my main concern here. Can somebody say, sure, go ahead and
remove my name from the copyright line and then sue you for doing it?
Just removing the name
On 19/11/2012 10:06, Rich Freeman wrote:
So, I give you a file. Then I tell you IN WRITING that you can go
ahead and remove my name from the copyright line if you want to.
I think it would be hard for me to argue that I should be able to
obtain damages when I gave you authorization to
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:06:53 -0800
Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
No one has to fight at all here, the law is very clear, and a quick
consultation with a copyright lawyer can provide us with a very good
set of rules and boundry conditions that all of us need to follow in
order to ensure that
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
a quick consultation with a copyright lawyer can provide us with
a very good set of rules and boundry conditions
The last time someone from Gentoo spoke to a copyright lawyer, it
resulted in a year-or-so-long ban on recruiting anyone, and everyone
was supposed to
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
The last time someone from Gentoo spoke to a copyright lawyer, it
resulted in a year-or-so-long ban on recruiting anyone, and everyone
was supposed to sign a piece of paper agreeing to turn over all their
On 19/11/2012 10:44, Rich Freeman wrote:
If Gentoo were trying to monetize/dual-license/etc then the benefits
of airtight copyright assignments would be greater, as would be the
benefit of telling anybody in the EU that their help simply isn't
needed unless they can convince their parliaments
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò
flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote:
Sorry Rich, are you freaking kidding me? Europe would need to change
laws? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?
There's a very simple way to handle this and it doesn't require changing
laws that are perfectly fine for
On 19.11.2012 18.33, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:
Anthony G. Basile wrote:
The answer appears to be that a file is the unit
I personally consider it to be smaller; a number of lines within
a file, or even a single line, all depending
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 06:23:44PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:06:53 -0800
Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
No one has to fight at all here, the law is very clear, and a quick
consultation with a copyright lawyer can provide us with a very good
set of rules and
On 19.11.2012 19.02, Greg KH wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:41:54AM -0500, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
Thank you for these responses because they did help me understand
copyright/left better. I appreciate your expertise in the matter
and would hope I can draw on it again in the future,
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 01:06:17PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:03:12AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
That's my main concern here. Can somebody say, sure, go ahead and
remove my name from the copyright
On 11/19/2012 01:16 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
On 19/11/2012 10:06, Rich Freeman wrote:
So, I give you a file. Then I tell you IN WRITING that you can go
ahead and remove my name from the copyright line if you want to.
I think it would be hard for me to argue that I should be able to
On 19/11/2012 14:45, Richard Yao wrote:
Is there anything that prevents the foundation from claiming ownership
over work done on Gentoo Infrastructure in the same sense that a
corporation would for its employees?
Lots.
Alternatively, do people working for companies in Europe retain
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote:
One of the functions of the foundation exists to handle legal matters.
Is there anything that prevents the foundation from claiming ownership
over work done on Gentoo Infrastructure in the same sense that a
corporation would
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
True, but removing a copyright line doesn't change the real copyright of
a file, although it is generally considered something that you really
should not do at all (see your local copyright laws/rules for details.)
Agreed that
On 11/18/2012 09:58 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:06:50AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
COPYRIGHT
I think this issue is best dealt with on the side - it has no bearing
on any of the really contentious points here.
I note that the owners of the copyright on udev have announced
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:05:05PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 09:58 PM, Greg KH wrote:
an on-topic discussion about copyright thread response from me snipped
We develop open source software in public repositories. A developer
decided it would be helpful to change the software
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:29:35PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
True, but removing a copyright line doesn't change the real copyright of
a file, although it is generally considered something that you really
should not do at
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:21:20PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 11:22 PM, Greg KH wrote:
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:05:05PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote:
On 11/18/2012 09:58 PM, Greg KH wrote:
an on-topic discussion about copyright thread response from me snipped
We develop
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