On 15:23 Wed 18 Jan 2012, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
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5) If is a library, obviously, we can try to rebuild stable RDEPENDS in tree
and an easy way to check the list of rdepend is asking our bot:
!rdep ${package}
Unfortunately it prints a complete list of RDEPEND(stable+testing), and is a
On 1/27/12 10:41 AM, Thomas Kahle wrote:
On 15:23 Wed 18 Jan 2012, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
[...]
5) If is a library, obviously, we can try to rebuild stable RDEPENDS in tree
and an easy way to check the list of rdepend is asking our bot:
!rdep ${package}
Unfortunately it prints a
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
if it's part of the implicit system dep, they absolutely need to defend their
actions. you want to change the policy, then start a thread on it.
What policy? I don't see any written policy stating that you aren't
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On 18/01/12 10:41 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Mike Frysinger
vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
- you're confusing the literal @system with implicit system deps
I don't quite follow here.
literal @system = the exact
On Thursday 19 January 2012 09:04:08 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
if it's part of the implicit system dep, they absolutely need to defend
their actions. you want to change the policy, then start a thread on
it.
What
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 22:41:26 Mike Gilbert wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
- you're confusing the literal @system with implicit system deps
I don't quite follow here. By implicit system deps, are you
referring to the common sense set of essential
Hi!
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
4) Nobody knows how work all packages in tree, so there are
obvious packages like a browsers, IM, audio player,that is easy
decide if is ok or not, but there are also packages that an
Arch tester has never seen, so is a lack of time everytime
Hi,
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:23 +0100
Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:
2) _Before_ filing a request, please run repoman full, to be sure
that there is nothing to fix, then take a look at the ebuild and make
sure your ebuild have a minimum of QA; all external binary called in
the
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
So, everytime, I must suggest the same things and I can say that at some
point it gets boring.
so put it into a Gentoo guide and refer people to that
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you declare
it,
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:23 +0100
Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote:
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you
declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all package
from
On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you
declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all package
from @system
portage generates a NEEDED
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 10:44:44 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:23 +0100 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you
declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and
On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you
declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all package
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 12:32:08 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you
On 1/18/12 7:10 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 12:32:08 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
Same here. How about adding some warning to portage (maybe just in the
developer profile) when files in NEEDED are provided by packages not in
RDEPEND?
atm, we'll get a lot of false
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
it isn't just circular deps. it's also about breaking alternatives and
useless bloat. adding coreutils to their depend because they execute `mv`,
or sed because they execute `sed`, etc... is absolutely pointless. same
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On 01/18/2012 05:32 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 13:42:12 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
it isn't just circular deps. it's also about breaking alternatives and
useless bloat. adding coreutils to their depend because they execute
`mv`, or sed because they execute
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 14:02:01 Markos Chandras wrote:
On 01/18/2012 05:32 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
On 1/18/12 4:48 PM, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 10:05 Wed 18 Jan , Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 09:23:00 Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
3) Check your rdepend,
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
it is a problem. not all profiles use coreutils ... they provide
replacement
packages. busybox is just one example. the bsd/prefix guys go in even
weirder
directions.
Yup - hence my point about coreutils not being
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 11:55:30 Alexis Ballier wrote:
3) Check your rdepend, where is possible with scanelf[3] and if you
declare it, please, as you said, exclude gcc/glibc and all package
from @system
imho this has nothing to do with stabilization
There is a misunderstading about
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 15:45:04 Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
it is a problem. not all profiles use coreutils ... they provide
replacement packages. busybox is just one example. the bsd/prefix guys
go in even weirder directions.
Yup -
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
- you're confusing the literal @system with implicit system deps
I don't quite follow here. By implicit system deps, are you
referring to the common sense set of essential packages that you
have floating around in that
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