Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
20.10.2013 18:31, hasufell пишет: Gamerlay is not related to the games team I am sorry, but it is games team not related to gamerlay. No offense, but gamerlay guys sometims just do their job. So, MAKE it related to Games team and fix stuff, considered broken. gamerlay which is a project that

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
20.10.2013 19:22, hasufell пишет: I am not sure if you have read my list of arguments in the first post. Sunrise is based on that very concept. No user has direct commit access to the reviewed repository, for good reason (not sure what you mean with developer-only). So, what's the problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Sergey Popov
20.10.2013 20:12, hasufell пишет: This thread is derailed and I have no further interest in discussing here. And again, no offense, but it is not the first time when you are jumped, said, Everything in X is wrong! and then said I have lost interest. It is very mature position to propose

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 04:10:36 +0200 Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Tom Wijsman wrote: There is an alternative solution here; and that is to bring reviewed versions of them to the Portage tree or official games repository, and honor their contributions. That is a win-win situation for

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/22/2013 09:54 AM, Sergey Popov wrote: 20.10.2013 20:12, hasufell пишет: This thread is derailed and I have no further interest in discussing here. And again, no offense, but it is not the first time when you are jumped, said, Everything in X is wrong! and then said I have lost

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/22/2013 09:48 AM, Sergey Popov wrote: 20.10.2013 18:31, hasufell пишет: Gamerlay is not related to the games team I am sorry, but it is games team not related to gamerlay. No offense, but gamerlay guys sometims just do their job. So, MAKE it related to Games team and fix stuff,

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-21 Thread Peter Stuge
Markos, Markos Chandras wrote: This is not a great way to invite more users to participate. If you intend to make the game overlay and team a developer-only thing you are doing a great work. Everything in the Gentoo project is per definition strictly developer-only. I suppose that it's a

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-21 Thread Peter Stuge
Tom Wijsman wrote: There is an alternative solution here; and that is to bring reviewed versions of them to the Portage tree or official games repository, and honor their contributions. That is a win-win situation for both of you. I'm afraid that's too naive. :\ I have significant experience

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Markos, Markos Chandras wrote: This is not a great way to invite more users to participate. If you intend to make the game overlay and team a developer-only thing you are doing a great work. Everything in the Gentoo project

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-21 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: This is not a great way to invite more users to participate. If you intend to make the game overlay and team a developer-only thing you are doing a great work. Everything in the Gentoo project is per definition strictly developer-only. I suppose that it's a function

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-10-20, o godz. 14:09:29 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): what does the games team think of an official games repository? $ layman -i games * games * ~ * Source : svn://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/games * Contact : ga...@gentoo.org * Type: Subversion; Priority: 50

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 02:15 PM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2013-10-20, o godz. 14:09:29 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org napisał(a): what does the games team think of an official games repository? $ layman -i games * games * ~ * Source :

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
Why not use gamerlay then? :D 20.10.2013, 19:17, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 02:15 PM, Michał Górny wrote:  Dnia 2013-10-20, o godz. 14:09:29 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org  napisał(a):  what does the games team think of an

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 02:19 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: Why not use gamerlay then? :D * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there * low quality -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
* not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games team to back to work on it together with community. * low quality low quality of what? ebuilds? I bet, it is many lower-quality ebuilds in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games team to back to work on it together with community. * low quality low quality of

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Kent Fredric
On 21 October 2013 01:09, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: what does the games team think of an official games repository? These are some arguments for such a repo: * sunrise does not allow ebuilds when any version is already in the tree (so no live or beta ebuilds for existing

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there It is easy-fixable. It is enough to

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from any dev on ebuilds that get pushed there It is easy-fixable. It is enough to gentoo-games

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:09 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: what does the games team think of an official games repository? ... Yes, overlays suck. But bugzilla as a review platform sucks more and IRC is also not the first place people look for. I think having an overlay which is

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 05:00 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 8:09 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: what does the games team think of an official games repository? ... Yes, overlays suck. But bugzilla as a review platform sucks more

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from any

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, hasufell wrote: Some people from gamerlay have made clear that they are not really interested in reviews, yet you want me to waste time on that? A guy asked you why you don't work in the gamerlay. All you said was that gamerlay was a failed attemp and that you have

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 05:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим
Some people from gamerlay have made clear that they are not really interested in reviews, yet you want me to waste time on that? I bet, you misunderstand that position. It is a big difference between «users is not interested in review» and «users is not interested to follow the way like «some

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This thread is derailed and I have no further interest in discussing here. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2013, 18:12:39 schrieb hasufell: This thread is derailed and I have no further interest in discussing here. Well maybe others do now? http://cdn.meme.li/i/p77qn.jpg -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/20/2013 06:52 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2013, 18:12:39 schrieb hasufell: This thread is derailed and I have no further interest in discussing here. Well maybe others do now? http://cdn.meme.li/i/p77qn.jpg

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 18:12:39 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: This thread is derailed ... The argument deprecate repositories like gamerlay which do not undergo any kind of review and have low quality you gave causes a sub thread that

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 17:22:24 +0200 hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: I personally would propose the standard github way. The only thing that still bothers me about that is that there is no automatic way of doing a repoman full check, like the