On 14/02/13 09:26, Michael Weber wrote:
non-multilib/x86 installs to /lib, multilib is linked to /lib.
So please, stop using dramatizing this and use it as alibi for your
otherwise justified plans.
There is no guarantee multilib is linked to /lib whatsoever. Where did
you get that idea?
Christopher Head schrieb:
Most external firmware is not needed to boot. If you need it to boot,
you will have to stow it in the initramfs.
For those of us who prefer monolithic kernels, virtually all firmware
is needed to boot. Even if a network interface doesn't need to be
operational for
Sergei Trofimovich schrieb:
The source of confusion was non-working device by default. Maybe
'IUSE=+firmware; RDEPEND=firmware? ( sys-kernel/linux-firmware
)' for virtual/linux-sources would help user experience a bit.
+1
https://bugs.gentoo.org/457082
Instead of USE defaults, this could be
On 13/02/2013 14:38, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/457082
Instead of USE defaults, this could be turned on in the desktop
profile as wifi, radeon cards etc. are less likely to be present on
non-desktop systems.
IIRC some server systems need ethernet cards'
Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb:
On 13/02/2013 14:38, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/457082
Instead of USE defaults, this could be turned on in the desktop
profile as wifi, radeon cards etc. are less likely to be present on
non-desktop systems.
IIRC some server
On 13/02/2013 15:50, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
Indeed. Firmware is also needed for some RAID controllers.
I imagine that users of the default profile are more likely to not need
hand-holding here and more likely to want a lean system by default. But
I have no strong opinion either
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
People who don't need the firmware can deal with disabling it themselves.
I don't like the binary distribution argument of include everything
to cover as many possible use cases as possible in one go.
I very much like the high resolution of Gentoo packages. I'd hate to
On 13/02/2013 18:33, Peter Stuge wrote:
I don't like the binary distribution argument of include everything
to cover as many possible use cases as possible in one go.
I very much like the high resolution of Gentoo packages. I'd hate to
enter a slippery slope toward lower resolution.
Are you
Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
I don't like the binary distribution argument of include everything
to cover as many possible use cases as possible in one go.
I very much like the high resolution of Gentoo packages. I'd hate to
enter a slippery slope toward lower resolution.
Are you really
Peter Stuge schrieb:
Kernel -sources USE is a handy way to install linux-firmware
wholesale, but AIUI the standalone firmware packages would
be removed too, effectively making the USE flag non-optional, and
removing the possibility of having managed firmware packages.
(People would have to
Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se writes:
Kernel -sources USE is a handy way to install linux-firmware
wholesale, but AIUI the standalone firmware packages would
be removed too, effectively making the USE flag non-optional, and
removing the possibility of having managed firmware packages.
(People
U folks are aware of the fact that installed sources is rather vaguely
coupled with running kernel, right?
No, I'm not running archkernel on gentoo, but it would be possible.
It's also fine to poke around in linus' sources and cross compile w/o
ever running the damn thing or needing firmware from
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:43:02 +0100
Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org
wrote:
+1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades
because I didn't have the proper firmware installed (I guess older
kernel sources
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:49:03 -0800
Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote:
Most external firmware is not needed to boot. If you need it to boot,
you will have to stow it in the initramfs.
For those of us who prefer monolithic kernels, virtually all firmware
is needed to boot. Even if a network
I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for
having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through
genkernel. Pretty much the same I do in Sabayon since 2007.
--
Fabio Erculiani
El mar, 12-02-2013 a las 19:43 +, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for
having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through
genkernel. Pretty much the same I do in Sabayon since 2007.
I think shouldn't have any
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
El mar, 12-02-2013 a las 19:43 +, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for
having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through
genkernel. Pretty much the
El dom, 10-02-2013 a las 17:46 +0300, Sergei Trofimovich escribió:
[...]
The source of confusion was non-working device by default.
Maybe 'IUSE=+firmware; RDEPEND=firmware? ( sys-kernel/linux-firmware )'
for virtual/linux-sources would help user experience a bit.
Sometimes firmware loader
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
for fw in $(strings -a -n 10 $(find /lib/modules -name '*.ko') | sed
-n 's/^firmware=//p' | sort
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
+1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because I
didn't have the proper
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
(I guess older kernel sources came with the firmware?)
See e.g. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42689#c5
--
Maxim Kammerer
Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
+1 from me; I've had a few
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote:
+1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because I
didn't have the proper firmware installed (I guess older kernel
sources came with the firmware?).
This is another problem, namely dependency level
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On 02/10/2013 11:54 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums
On Sun, 10 February 2013 Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in the past in some machines :/
for fw in $(strings -a -n 10 $(find
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Bruno bonbon...@internet.lu wrote:
On Sun, 10 February 2013 Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote:
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
I agree as I have also needed to google and search in forums to get
proper firmware installed in
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