Re: [gentoo-dev] Another call for BugVoting on bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
On 5/17/05, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Mike Frysinger wrote:
  On Monday 16 May 2005 08:01 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 
 On Mon, 16 May 2005 19:45:05 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 wrote:
 | On Monday 16 May 2005 07:08 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 |  What, so that you can see which bugs a small but vocal group of
 |  ricers are interested in rather than the ones that're actually
 |  important?
 |
 | once again, voting is optional ... if you dont want to pay attention
 | to them,  then dont
 
 
 I would tend to agree with Klieber when he closed the actual bug about
 this issue that I read through a few weeks ago.  The problem with
 leaving it optional being users vote a bunch on bug X and then the
 developer says he doesn't care, and then the users bitch because 'their
 precious voice was ignored'.  Personally if users want crap that bad,
 they can submit the code themselves.

Do you see such kind of bitching anywhere in the kde project?

On the bugs where I looked I dont see anything, seems like people know
that voting wont count as a means of pressure for developers.

 
 Most if not all of the developers here are volunteers, and just because
 a bunch of users vote up a bug doesn't particularly make it important to

Many bugs in bugzilla have ebuilds contributed, the work is done,
there is just no developer to add them to the tree and review them.
Bugvoting would allow other developers to see where they can help. For
example I am using kde but dont read all kde bugs, so if I would know
there is a kde bug with many votes I would maybe look at it.
 work on.  I think that if this is made clear enough somewhere, them this
 could work.  Obviously voting is a very nice tool that could help out a
 lot of people who use it.  It's just not worth it (IMHO) when it annoys
 the other half of the people who don't use it.

We can alternatively introduce a customilzable Bugzilla, developers
who dont want to see Votes can turn them off and will not see the Vote
counts for bugs :)

-- Stefan

-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] Another call for BugVoting on bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Thierry Carrez
Stefan Schweizer wrote:

 Many bugs in bugzilla have ebuilds contributed, the work is done,
 there is just no developer to add them to the tree and review them.
 Bugvoting would allow other developers to see where they can help. For
 example I am using kde but dont read all kde bugs, so if I would know
 there is a kde bug with many votes I would maybe look at it.

I have mixed feelings about this.

Voting would be useful to judge which package gathers sufficient
popularity to be added to Portage for example. Currently only packages a
developer cares for are added, voting would help to get user opinion.

On the other hand, on base system bugs for example voting would be more
a pressure tool that might not help much...

We could enable voting on a New Ebuilds section and see how it goes ?

-- 
Koon
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] Another call for BugVoting on bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 09:58:43AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
 Stefan Schweizer wrote:
 
  Many bugs in bugzilla have ebuilds contributed, the work is done,
  there is just no developer to add them to the tree and review them.
  Bugvoting would allow other developers to see where they can help. For
  example I am using kde but dont read all kde bugs, so if I would know
  there is a kde bug with many votes I would maybe look at it.
 
 I have mixed feelings about this.
 
 Voting would be useful to judge which package gathers sufficient
 popularity to be added to Portage for example. Currently only packages a
 developer cares for are added, voting would help to get user opinion.
 
 On the other hand, on base system bugs for example voting would be more
 a pressure tool that might not help much...
 
 We could enable voting on a New Ebuilds section and see how it goes ?
Seems like a good approach in my opinion.  Most of the nays have 
basically come down to I don't want people voting on stuff I'm 
working on, I know what needs to be done, don't need extra input to 
discern it.
Ebuild submissions fall squarely outside of that arguement, and would 
be a good test run of it.

Personally, I'd be interested in it for actual portage bugs; that 
said, I'm not totally sure if I'd want it enabled _now_ since there 
are internal changes needed rather then more feature bloat, so voting 
would be ignored till internal bits are done.

My 2 cents...
~harring
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] Another call for BugVoting on bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread R Hill
On 5/16/05, Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 16 May 2005 19:45:05 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | On Monday 16 May 2005 07:08 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 |  What, so that you can see which bugs a small but vocal group of
 |  ricers are interested in rather than the ones that're actually
 |  important?
 |
 | once again, voting is optional ... if you dont want to pay attention
 | to them,  then dont
 
 I would tend to agree with Klieber when he closed the actual bug about
 this issue that I read through a few weeks ago.  The problem with
 leaving it optional being users vote a bunch on bug X and then the
 developer says he doesn't care, and then the users bitch because 'their
 precious voice was ignored'.

They manage to do that pretty well already.
 
 Most if not all of the developers here are volunteers, and just because
 a bunch of users vote up a bug doesn't particularly make it important to
 work on.

Agreed, but it can give a good indication of the bugs that a lot of
users are running into.  Right now that's handled by swarms of me
too posts (and last time i checked, those couldn't be filtered by
procmail too effectively either. ;]).  Not saying those posts will
disappear of course, just pointing out that it might not be a creation
of another source of generally unwanted feedback, but a way to move
this already existing feedback into a less annoying form.

Mozilla is another good example of a bugzilla using a voting system
with positive results (and they even have windows users ;]).  But they
also use the confirmed status and discourage 'me too' posts in favor
of the vote system, which is something that might not work for Gentoo.

--de.

-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Michael Cummings
iawww, i thought that added extra emphasis to the post history... 

;)

On Monday 16 May 2005 08:41 pm, Jeffrey Forman wrote:
 Good eye, Fixed!

 -Jeffrey

 On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 09:25 +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote:
  Something's wrong with the i tags -- the one before Additional is
  never closed.
 
  span class=bz_comment
--- iAdditional Comment
   a name=c2 href=#c2#2/a From
 
  !-- JSF - unfangled all the emails, so they are spam spider unfriendly
  -- iBrandon Low/i
2002-03-07 15:57 PDT
---
  /span
 
  Thus all comments show up as italic.

-- 

-o()o-
Michael Cummings   |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-perl
Gentoo Perl Dev|on irc.freenode.net 
-o()o-


pgpKhAYRVQffU.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] Subversion and Apache 2.0.54

2005-05-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 13 May 2005 19:04, Ian Brandt wrote:
 Paul de Vrieze wrote:
  Quite likely you changed db versions along the run. While this
  theoretically should work. The best course of action is to dump the
  repository. Make sure you have a consistent use of db, and load the
  repository. Alternatively you could try to use fs_fs

 Eventually I was able to get a dump by compiling 1.1.4 myself using
 all the dependencies included in the source with the exception of
 db-4.1.25_p1-r4.

  In principle the 1.0 apr's and later should work for subversion. The
  main versions are still the 0.9.x versions though. These are the ones
  I use. These database errors are normally not related to the apache
  version. (apr/apr-util can be related though).

 I was able to get the 1.1.4 ebuild to work but only with
 apache-2.0.52-r3, apr-0.9.5-r3, and apr-util-0.9.5.  All my attempts
 to merge 1.1.4 or 1.1.3 and apache-2.0.53/54 (which use apr 0.9.6)
 resulted in the same failing svn binaries.

 With the working apache-2.0.52 and subversion-1.1.4 combination I
 dropped the repository, recreated as fsfs, and successfully loaded the
 dump I made with my own compile of 1.1.4.  It's been running fine
 since.

You could change the useflag to not include berkeley db. On my system 
things work with apr(-util)-0.96, apache-2.0.54-r5 and subversion-1.1.4. 
What I should note though is that my apache does not have ldap support 
compiled in. It could very well be that ldap is causing your troubles. 
Which db version is your ldap compiled against?

Paul

-- 
Paul de Vrieze
Gentoo Developer
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net


pgp94MgGQMFyL.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] eclectic-0.9.1

2005-05-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 09 May 2005 03:00, Marius Mauch wrote:

 Just put it as a subproject under base as it doesn't have the substance
 for a TLP, and I don't think azarah would mind it ;)

It should be under the tools project. This is clearly a tool.

Paul

-- 
Paul de Vrieze
Gentoo Developer
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net


pgpWDSAkWe0An.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Alin Dobre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


Jonathan Smith wrote:
 
 I noticed a bug [1] which, when resolved after the upgrade, did not list
 the cause of resolution (in this case, it was a dup). Is this no longer
 required? I rather liked that feature, as it enabled people to see, at a
 quick glance, the final status of the bug...
 
 [1]: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92861

smithj, the bug showed that information for me:

 Clear-Text: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92861
 Secure: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92861


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

What|Removed |Added

-

  Status|NEW |RESOLVED




 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-05-17 01:46 PDT
- ---


 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 12745 ***

Here it is, the last row.


- --
Alin DOBRE
Romanian Lead Translator
Gentoo Documentation Project: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/
Gentoo.RO Community:  http://www.gentoo.ro/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFCievUmG51ym6Hu9gRAqRTAKCB3yMPL3wxtKN0khWG2omYvVni1ACg1uEK
JDERrmlt3ojv78yNkOAs8dA=
=5TVL
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Paul Waring
On 5/17/05, Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 MySQL-4.1.12 is in the tree (hard-masked), and I would like lots of early 
 testing.
 MySQL-4.0.24-r2 is also in the tree (hard-masked) for testing, and contains
 some of the improvements in the 4.1 ebuilds, like the new pkg_config, and the
 updated init.d script.

I'd be happy to give 4.1.x some testing on one of my servers - I'm
planning on reinstalling at some point in the near future (probably
this weekend). Is there anything specific that needs testing, or
should I just drop it in as a replacement for whatever version of 4.0
I'm running and see if it breaks anything?

Paul

-- 
Rogue Tory
http://www.roguetory.org.uk

-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 17/05/2005-16:04:20(+0300): Alin Dobre types
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 
 Jonathan Smith wrote:
  
  I noticed a bug [1] which, when resolved after the upgrade, did not list
  the cause of resolution (in this case, it was a dup). Is this no longer
  required? I rather liked that feature, as it enabled people to see, at a
  quick glance, the final status of the bug...
  
  [1]: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92861
 
 smithj, the bug showed that information for me:
 
  Clear-Text: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92861
  Secure: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92861
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:
 
 What|Removed |Added
 
 -
 
   Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 
 
 
 
  --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-05-17 01:46 PDT
 - ---
 
 
  *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 12745 ***
 
 Here it is, the last row.

But in the headers it says:

Status: RESOLVED
Resolution:

-- 
-*   Georgi Georgiev   -* Humor in th Court: Q: Do you drink when  -*
*-[EMAIL PROTECTED]*- you're on duty? A: I don't drink when I'm*-
-*  +81(90)2877-8845   -* on duty, unless I come on duty drunk.-*
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Francesco Riosa
Lance Albertson wrote:

Robin H. Johnson wrote:

  

Many thanks to Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] for his hard
work in dealing with MySQL-4.1. He's joining Gentoo soon as a new developer to
help maintain MySQL for the 4.1 and 5.0 series, and hopefully also providing a
package for the official MySQL AB binaries.



Great work! I used his 4.1.11 ebuild recently and everything seems to work
pretty well. I'll see if I can try the 4.1.12 ebuild soon. Upgrades within the
4.1.x series shouldn't be painful right?

Cheers,

  

Thanks to Robin before, he has guided me and solved issues that have
been there for month before.
That sayd, never ever emerge sync has been happier for me, and also
have the mail filled of closed bug reports isn't that bad ;)

To answer you Lance, yes upgrading from a version best than 4.1.4 should
be straight, with 4.1.0 .. 4.1.4 better consider to unload to be on the
safe side.

Francesco

-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Francesco Riosa
Paul Waring wrote:

On 5/17/05, Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

MySQL-4.1.12 is in the tree (hard-masked), and I would like lots of early 
testing.
MySQL-4.0.24-r2 is also in the tree (hard-masked) for testing, and contains
some of the improvements in the 4.1 ebuilds, like the new pkg_config, and the
updated init.d script.



I'd be happy to give 4.1.x some testing on one of my servers - I'm
planning on reinstalling at some point in the near future (probably
this weekend). Is there anything specific that needs testing, or
should I just drop it in as a replacement for whatever version of 4.0
I'm running and see if it breaks anything?

Paul

  

Don't know if robbat2 need other testings but here it has been tested
only on x86, at the moment there are no other archs avaiable for testing.
On all the builds of theese latest months the most fragile stuff has
been use flag interaction and client library, so if you don't need say
geometry or cluster unset this use, because here it has been tested with
pratically all up.
Another thing that can need reviev is the support file that the ebuild
install (/usr/share/mysql) do you need something more, something different?

Francesco
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Alin Dobre
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1


Jonathan Smith wrote:
 Georgi Georgiev wrote:
 
maillog: 17/05/2005-16:04:20(+0300): Alin Dobre types

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 12745 ***

Here it is, the last row.


But in the headers it says:

Status: RESOLVED
Resolution:

 
 
 right. what i was saying was that it is very nice to see the reason for
 resolution in the summary section.

something like this:

   What|Removed |Added
-

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||DUPLICATE

yes, indeed, the Resolution is empty, now.

- --
Alin DOBRE
Romanian Lead Translator
Gentoo Documentation Project: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/
Gentoo.RO Community:  http://www.gentoo.ro/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFCifotmG51ym6Hu9gRAiYbAJ9FHjkNFnQxJhN9KHCxHT8mAaAQvwCfQsD0
Tr8LMuYW3M/X1CQflOgH9+s=
=xT1h
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



[gentoo-dev] More bashrc usage

2005-05-17 Thread Chris White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

While I was waiting for a package to compile, I worked on a new bashrc
some.  You can get the bashrc file from here:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/bashrc

to which you can stick it in /etc/portage/ if you want to use it.

two main things it includes are pathchk and whatis FEATURES.  Pathchk is
used to check for POSIX compatibility in file naming.  This can be
helpful when trying to see how POSIX compatible your packages are.  This
includes (taken from info page):

1. one of the existing directories in NAME does not have search
 (execute) permission,

2. the length of NAME is larger than its filesystem's maximum file
 name length,

3. the length of one component of NAME, corresponding to an existing
 directory name, is larger than its filesystem's maximum length for
 a file name component.

I really hope #1 doesn't come up on your package.. because that would
really not be a Good Thing(tm) #2 and #3 is probably what you're after.
 Note that this program seems to be pretty strict (14 characters max
filenames to work on ALL POSIX systems).  The bashrc file simply
recurses the source directory, pathchk-ing every file and putting the
results in ${PATHCHECK_LOG_DIR}/pathcheck.log (which is set to
/var/log/pathcheck by defualt).

the whatis FEATURE will update the whatis database when you're done
installing a package.  This is helpful for keeping it up to date.  If
you haven't updated the whatis database in awhile, it could take a
_long_time_.  After that it's not really that bad and shouldn't take but
a minute or so (depends on system) to get the update finished.

This is something I slapped together late at night, so don't expect the
world, cause I'm not going to give it to you (...yet /me takes out world
domination plans).

Chris White
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFCiftjFdQwWVoAgN4RAvbgAJ9nF/amQlbrkofAVXUthK0Pc4FA0QCgow96
UBnzr7L7uUYVGw7TthJBuFU=
=mkR3
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Jeffrey Forman wrote:
 [snip]
 Anything else I've forgotten, I will happily take full credit for.
 [snip]

one more thing: comment #15 of bug 92622 [1] shows the bug which was a
dup as marked through. perhaps this is intentional (resolved bugs show
this attribute?), but it is very annoying, and it makes it hard to see
the bug number without clicking on it to go to the link.

sorry for the deluge of posts. overall, though, i very much like the new
bugzilla, so don't take my comments the wrong way ;-)

[1]: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92622#c15

- -smithj
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFCifwTl5AvwDPiUowRApkRAJ97dCUnzHTtsTUVDeVMn+Qcx5FRywCgtEF0
St9KDsjnf15mfRUD08MJdDs=
=xS1I
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Paul Waring
On 5/17/05, Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't know if robbat2 need other testings but here it has been tested
 only on x86, at the moment there are no other archs avaiable for testing.

If ebuilds exist for PPC (there appears to be one for 4.1.8-r1) then
I'll be able to test it on that, assuming I manage to get Gentoo
successfully installed on my Powerbook this weekend. I'm afraid I
don't have any exotic hardware to test the other architecture builds
on.

Paul

-- 
Rogue Tory
http://www.roguetory.org.uk

-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Forman
I've looked at the actual DB behind bugzilla, and that seems to be the
only bug having that such situation, with a resolved-like status, but no
resolution, all the other bugs look fine. *shrug*

-Jeffrey

On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 17:05 +0300, Alin Dobre wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 
 Jonathan Smith wrote:
  Georgi Georgiev wrote:
  
 maillog: 17/05/2005-16:04:20(+0300): Alin Dobre types
 
 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 12745 ***
 
 Here it is, the last row.
 
 
 But in the headers it says:
 
 Status: RESOLVED
 Resolution:
 
  
  
  right. what i was saying was that it is very nice to see the reason for
  resolution in the summary section.
 
 something like this:
 
What|Removed |Added
 -
 
  Status|NEW |RESOLVED
  Resolution||DUPLICATE
 
 yes, indeed, the Resolution is empty, now.

 -END PGP SIGNATURE-

-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Jeffrey Forman wrote:
 That seems odd, then again, those are VERY old bugs. Way before my time
 of looking at bugzilla to upgrade.

Don't think it has anything to do with age.  Just marked this one a dup this
morning.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92539

- --
Power, n.:
The only narcotic regulated by the SEC instead of the FDA.

Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | vim | web-apps ]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFCigtuC3poscuANHARAvAcAKDeyDCkDFbQQgFpYQujD386cNiEjwCdEi5O
j7wOcgkhAIesatP2kckZTYo=
=5Pz/
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Forman
Bingo, I found the correlation between those bugs and the previous ones
mentioned by Daniel. They have all been marked as duplicates of other
bugs. Therefore bugzilla does not put a resolution in there, only
marking them as status: resolved.

-Jeffrey

On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 11:19 -0400, Aaron Walker wrote:
 Jeffrey Forman wrote:
  That seems odd, then again, those are VERY old bugs. Way before my time
  of looking at bugzilla to upgrade.
 
 Don't think it has anything to do with age.  Just marked this one a dup this
 morning.
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92539
 


-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Forman
I retract my earlier statement. In the upgrade, I forgot to fully copy
over all the resolution states. (Don't you just love that comfortable
feeling that comes with editing a live system?) Now when a bug is marked
as a duplicate it shows up as

Status:  RESOLVED 
Resolution:  DUPLICATE of bug (some other bug #)

Sorry for the confusion, I sit corrected.

-Jeffrey

On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 11:47 -0400, Jeffrey Forman wrote:
 Bingo, I found the correlation between those bugs and the previous ones
 mentioned by Daniel. They have all been marked as duplicates of other
 bugs. Therefore bugzilla does not put a resolution in there, only
 marking them as status: resolved.
 
 -Jeffrey
 

-- 



Jeffrey Forman
Gentoo Infrastructure
Gentoo Release Engineering
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Michael Cummings
(fearing the jeff wrath)

can we get the dup status added back in though? i know, i know, we're being 
nitpicky, and not too many folks have stood up and applauded this effort like 
they should have (ahem). Just...unsettling to see bugs marked as resolved - 
make it sound like i did something rather than find that the same problem had 
been reported a few times :)


On Tuesday 17 May 2005 11:47 am, Jeffrey Forman wrote:
 Bingo, I found the correlation between those bugs and the previous ones
 mentioned by Daniel. They have all been marked as duplicates of other
 bugs. Therefore bugzilla does not put a resolution in there, only
 marking them as status: resolved.

 -Jeffrey

 On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 11:19 -0400, Aaron Walker wrote:
  Jeffrey Forman wrote:
   That seems odd, then again, those are VERY old bugs. Way before my time
   of looking at bugzilla to upgrade.
 
  Don't think it has anything to do with age.  Just marked this one a dup
  this morning.
 
  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92539

-- 

-o()o-
Michael Cummings   |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-perl
Gentoo Perl Dev|on irc.freenode.net 
-o()o-


pgpx5fBJYOfLE.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Jeffrey Forman
Michael,

You are very welcome, it was a pleasure to upgrade such a critical
piece of Gentoo, even though it required time I could have spent outside
in the Florida sun. As for your question about adding in the duplicate
status. 'Duplicate' isn't a status, its a resolution state. I point you
to http://bugs.gentoo.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
for a better explanation. So in a more abstract sense, a Duplicate bug
has been 'resolved,' as someone has determined that it is a duplicate
bug and pointed the bug to its appropriate original filing. With that
said, I put this issue to rest. ;) Yes, it's nitpicky, but I won't
impart any bodily harm on you.

-Jeffrey


On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:42 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote:
 (fearing the jeff wrath)
 
 can we get the dup status added back in though? i know, i know, we're being 
 nitpicky, and not too many folks have stood up and applauded this effort like 
 they should have (ahem). Just...unsettling to see bugs marked as resolved - 
 make it sound like i did something rather than find that the same problem had 
 been reported a few times :)


-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Michael Cummings
yeah, i hit send, then jforman hit send. sorry.


On Tuesday 17 May 2005 12:42 pm, Michael Cummings wrote:
 (fearing the jeff wrath)

 can we get the dup status added back in though? i know, i know, we're being
 nitpicky, and not too many folks have stood up and applauded this effort
 like they should have (ahem). Just...unsettling to see bugs marked as
 resolved - make it sound like i did something rather than find that the
 same problem had been reported a few times :)

 On Tuesday 17 May 2005 11:47 am, Jeffrey Forman wrote:
  Bingo, I found the correlation between those bugs and the previous ones
  mentioned by Daniel. They have all been marked as duplicates of other
  bugs. Therefore bugzilla does not put a resolution in there, only
  marking them as status: resolved.
 
  -Jeffrey
 
  On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 11:19 -0400, Aaron Walker wrote:
   Jeffrey Forman wrote:
That seems odd, then again, those are VERY old bugs. Way before my
time of looking at bugzilla to upgrade.
  
   Don't think it has anything to do with age.  Just marked this one a dup
   this morning.
  
   http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92539

-- 

-o()o-
Michael Cummings   |#gentoo-dev, #gentoo-perl
Gentoo Perl Dev|on irc.freenode.net 
-o()o-


pgp15yEBzFG0R.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 02:16:58PM +0100, Paul Waring wrote:
 On 5/17/05, Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  MySQL-4.1.12 is in the tree (hard-masked), and I would like lots of early 
  testing.
  MySQL-4.0.24-r2 is also in the tree (hard-masked) for testing, and contains
  some of the improvements in the 4.1 ebuilds, like the new pkg_config, and 
  the
  updated init.d script.
 I'd be happy to give 4.1.x some testing on one of my servers - I'm
 planning on reinstalling at some point in the near future (probably
 this weekend). Is there anything specific that needs testing, or
 should I just drop it in as a replacement for whatever version of 4.0
 I'm running and see if it breaks anything?
Ah, I missed that some arches had ~arched 4.1.8-r1. I've added them to
the keywords for 4.1.12, so you should be able to try the latest ebuild
now.

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home Page  : http://www.orbis-terrarum.net/?l=people.robbat2
ICQ#   : 30269588 or 41961639
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85


pgp612W1OVf90.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)

2005-05-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 A much better approach would be for there to be a rescue build,
 completely independent of the stages, since it doesn't need to mirror
 them in any way.  It should be extracted (self-extracted?) to something
 like /rescue and executed from there, being completely self-contained.
 This keeps it from stomping on system files and breaking
 collision-protect or doing anything else nasty like hosing configuration
 files (ever made the mistake of extracting a stage onto a live
 filesystem?) when unpacked.

This sounds a lot like saying, use an initrd, but when you pivot roots
to the live filesystem, leave it mounted somewhere.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFCiirqXVaO67S1rtsRAgHyAJ49adhPpYhwHqUeFNMw4I6h+GUyDwCfbwMB
rgA0GKbYsBjd8K9I7X2pyE8=
=tZSe
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Jeffrey Forman wrote:
   You are very welcome, it was a pleasure to upgrade such a critical
 piece of Gentoo, even though it required time I could have spent outside
 in the Florida sun.

Heh, that explains why I spend so much time working on Gentoo -- this
rainy Oregon weather. =)

Some of the new features are pretty sweet though, so thanks for doing it!

Donnie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFCiiugXVaO67S1rtsRAgbkAKCZmu66b2OkwZUY/MjlXr6elG2zoACfQaMO
hkSrMrWa7517hNMgSKxj+5Q=
=2tFV
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Alexander Simonov
Francesco Riosa wrote:
 Lance Albertson wrote:
 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
 Many thanks to Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] for his
  hard work in dealing with MySQL-4.1. He's joining Gentoo soon as a new
  developer to help maintain MySQL for the 4.1 and 5.0 series, and
  hopefully also providing a package for the official MySQL AB binaries.
 
 Great work! I used his 4.1.11 ebuild recently and everything seems to work
 pretty well. I'll see if I can try the 4.1.12 ebuild soon. Upgrades within
  the 4.1.x series shouldn't be painful right?
 
It's all grate! But how about mysql 5 ?
And wath about spliting mysq into mysql-server and mysql-client how it do  
like in FreeBSD.

-- 
WBR, Alexander Simonov (AS1199-UANIC | DEVL-UANIC)
Ukrainian Gentoo Community Domain Coordinator
Jabber-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] UPGRADE complete bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Some of the new features are pretty sweet though, so thanks for doing it!

Is it possible to add some feature which will allow end users to change
timezone in which the times are reported? Or at least allow UTC?

-jkt

-- 
cd /local/pub  more beer  /dev/mouth


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 05:40:25PM +, Alexander Simonov wrote:
 It's all grate! But how about mysql 5 ?
5.0 will come later on (once Francesco is a dev). If you want it now,
go and find Francesco's overlay.

 And wath about spliting mysq into mysql-server and mysql-client how it
 do  like in FreeBSD.
No. If you want a client-only MySQL, you can do USE=minimal.

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home Page  : http://www.orbis-terrarum.net/?l=people.robbat2
ICQ#   : 30269588 or 41961639
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85


pgpVPZZfOqbra.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] Another call for BugVoting on bugs.gentoo.org

2005-05-17 Thread Heinrich Wendel
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 10:13, Brian Harring wrote:
 On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 09:58:43AM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
  Stefan Schweizer wrote:
   Many bugs in bugzilla have ebuilds contributed, the work is done,
   there is just no developer to add them to the tree and review them.
   Bugvoting would allow other developers to see where they can help. For
   example I am using kde but dont read all kde bugs, so if I would know
   there is a kde bug with many votes I would maybe look at it.
 
  I have mixed feelings about this.
 
  Voting would be useful to judge which package gathers sufficient
  popularity to be added to Portage for example. Currently only packages a
  developer cares for are added, voting would help to get user opinion.
 
  On the other hand, on base system bugs for example voting would be more
  a pressure tool that might not help much...
 
  We could enable voting on a New Ebuilds section and see how it goes ?

 Seems like a good approach in my opinion.  Most of the nays have
 basically come down to I don't want people voting on stuff I'm
 working on, I know what needs to be done, don't need extra input to
 discern it.
 Ebuild submissions fall squarely outside of that arguement, and would
 be a good test run of it.

 Personally, I'd be interested in it for actual portage bugs; that
 said, I'm not totally sure if I'd want it enabled _now_ since there
 are internal changes needed rather then more feature bloat, so voting
 would be ignored till internal bits are done.

So who can make the decision here?


 My 2 cents...
 ~harring
mfg, heinrich :-)
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



Re: [gentoo-dev] New dev Killerfox (Ren NussBaumer)

2005-05-17 Thread Michael Kohl
On Mon, 16 May 2005 19:36:41 +0200
Simon Stelling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nice to finally have you on board!

Well, in his case I'm inclined to say it only was a matter of time. :)

BTW: are you guys coming to What the Hack this summer? Would be nice
to do something for the Austria-Swiss friendship again... ;)

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://citizen428.net/http://dev.gentoo.org/~citizen428/
GnuPG key: 0x90CA09E3/4D21 916E DBCE 72B8 CDC5  BD87 DE2D 91A2 90CA 09E3


pgplyNPNpSlzf.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple categories for a package

2005-05-17 Thread Marius Mauch
Alin Nastac wrote:
Marius Mauch wrote:

CVS doesn't support symlinks.
But subversion does ;)
Doesn't help here.
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list