Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | | Hrm. Is this going to be sanely doable by your average dev? How long | | a dep string would we be having in typical cases? How about in bad | | cases? | | It shouldn't be difficult in most cases,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | Furthermore, make sure you don't install the headers in /usr/include/GL, | but in a location that opengl-update would know how to handle. Good catch. I was going to get to the rest of the GL headers after getting Mesa working

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 09/08/2005-11:16:52(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > > Also there have been errors of the freetype/type1/trap modules not found > on startx. They aren't yet built in xorg-server, so you may need to copy > them over from an older install. Add to that the "bitmap" and "pcidata" modules -- th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 09/08/2005-11:16:52(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > | If you find bugs that aren't purely ebuild problems, do not file them at > | bugs.gentoo.org -- go to bugs.freedesktop.org, in the xorg product. > | > | Two USE flags you will care about are "dri" and "glx" -- b

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeremy Huddleston wrote: | I've been pretty busy this summer and haven't had much time to devote to | the gcc-config changes we discussed here a couple months back until | yesterday. I created a cvs repository for the development in | gentoo/src/tool

[gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huddleston
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 00:34 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 10 August 2005 00:12, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > > I'd probably go > > for something similar to the samba/gdm config files if we were to go > > down this road: > Such a format would be also simpler to parse in C, for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 07:40 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:31:48 +0200 Arnaud Launay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Le Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:54:34PM -0700, Tuan Van a écrit: > | > and for those of us (nano users) ;) > | > | BTW, I never understood why it was nano which is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 07:31 pm, Arnaud Launay wrote: > Le Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:54:34PM -0700, Tuan Van a écrit: > > and for those of us (nano users) ;) > > BTW, I never understood why it was nano which is on the CD, and > not some vi... ? last i checked, both vi and nano are on livecds now

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:31:48 +0200 Arnaud Launay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Le Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:54:34PM -0700, Tuan Van a écrit: | > and for those of us (nano users) ;) | | BTW, I never understood why it was nano which is on the CD, and | not some vi... ? Executive order from Daniel a lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread LostSon
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 01:31 +0200, Arnaud Launay wrote: > Le Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:54:34PM -0700, Tuan Van a écrit: > > and for those of us (nano users) ;) > > BTW, I never understood why it was nano which is on the CD, and > not some vi... ? Because most noobies wouldnt have a clue how to use

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Arnaud Launay
Le Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:54:34PM -0700, Tuan Van a écrit: > and for those of us (nano users) ;) BTW, I never understood why it was nano which is on the CD, and not some vi... ? Arnaud. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Tuan Van
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:07:16 -0400 Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | i do have one suggestion for every dev who's ever gotten minor syntax | - trailing whitespace errors (somehow that happens to me ALOT)... Or use vim, and :set list listchars=tab:»·,trail:·,exten

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 00:43, Mike Frysinger wrote: > arent 'samba style configs' just glorified ini files ? :) they are -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64, Sound, PAM) pgpj14cFi3NUy.pgp Description: PGP si

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 18:43:54 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | arent 'samba style configs' just glorified ini files ? :) Linux doesn't have .ini files! -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web :

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: == SNIP == That's a matter of opinion. I see it as a way to abstract away the configuration and utilize an existing library to handle the parsing. If we do want to eliminate outside depe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 06:37 pm, Paul Varner wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 18:14 -0400, Daniel Ostrow wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:12 -0700, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > | but I think having the xml configuration files a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Paul Varner
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 18:14 -0400, Daniel Ostrow wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:12 -0700, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > | but I think having the xml configuration files allows a much more > > > | robust configuration. > > > > > > Ho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 00:12, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > I'd probably go > for something similar to the samba/gdm config files if we were to go > down this road: Such a format would be also simpler to parse in C, for example using libconfuse (that's *really* simple to use, and quite small), a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:12:48 -0700 Jeremy Huddleston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > | but I think having the xml configuration files allows a much more | > | robust configuration. | > | > How so? Using XML doesn't magically make your data

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Daniel Ostrow
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 15:12 -0700, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > | but I think having the xml configuration files allows a much more > > | robust configuration. > > > > How so? Using XML doesn't magically make your data files any different

[gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huddleston
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | but I think having the xml configuration files allows a much more > | robust configuration. > > How so? Using XML doesn't magically make your data files any different. > It simply makes them much harder to parse. That's a matter of opi

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:53:25 -0700 Jeremy Huddleston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | The configuration files are in XML. I'm a little apprehensive about | having such a core package depend on an outside library like this, As you should be. | but I think having the xml configuration files allows a m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 20:22 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Or use vim, and :set list listchars=tab:»·,trail:·,extends:… , and then > you'll be able to see them visibly. Or use a proper editor and do the following ;) (global-font-lock-mode t) (setq-default show-trailing-whitespace t) Regards,

[gentoo-dev] gcc-config 2.0 development

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremy Huddleston
I've been pretty busy this summer and haven't had much time to devote to the gcc-config changes we discussed here a couple months back until yesterday. I created a cvs repository for the development in gentoo/src/toolchain/gcc-config. Right now, it's barely more than framework for the code and a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:07:16 -0400 Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | i do have one suggestion for every dev who's ever gotten minor syntax | - trailing whitespace errors (somehow that happens to me ALOT)... Or use vim, and :set list listchars=tab:»·,trail:·,extends:… , and then you'll be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Isn't this one of those things that's best done on a per-dev basis? > It's so trivial there's no point shipping an app that does it -- > reading the associated documentation would take longer than writing > your own. Plus that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | If you find bugs that aren't purely ebuild problems, do not file them at | bugs.gentoo.org -- go to bugs.freedesktop.org, in the xorg product. | | Two USE flags you will care about are "dri" and "glx" -- both are | necessary t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Tennis wrote: | On Monday 08 August 2005 08:14 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote: | |>If you could bring up some specific examples, we could discuss them. | | | Sure. Qt has optional support for xkb, tablet, fontconfig, xrender, xrandr, | xcursor, xine

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | emerging libXfont with font-server made xorg-server link just fine. | | Still, I believe that it is xorg-server that has to be fixed. It needs | to get "NOFONTSERVERACCESS" defined, which will avoid the call to | fs_register_f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 15:03, Caleb Tennis wrote: > Let me follow up with that I'm all for adding the use flags IF other > packages would make use of them as well. I just really hate adding 8 local > use flags for this pretty heavily used package that won't add much utility > to anything else a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Caleb Tennis
> Yep, you're a heretic. :) > How would you propose that DEPEND information make it's way up the > portage stack, and ultimately affects the depgraph? > > What you're suggesting is effectively "suggested" deps, which are a > bit backwards considering we have "optional" deps, the 8 flags you > disli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Markus Rothe
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Isn't this one of those things that's best done on a per-dev basis? > It's so trivial there's no point shipping an app that does it -- > reading the associated documentation would take longer than writing > your own. Plus that way you can incorporate personalised clever thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 12:23:20 + Markus Rothe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Stephen Bennett wrote: | > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:36:18 + | > Markus Rothe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | > > Personaly I find it a little bit annoying to write changes twise. | > > One time in Changelog and one time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 07:36:31AM -0500, Caleb Tennis wrote: > On Monday 08 August 2005 08:14 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > If you could bring up some specific examples, we could discuss them. > > Sure. Qt has optional support for xkb, tablet, fontconfig, xrender, xrandr, > xcursor, xinerama (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 13:55, Simon Stelling wrote: > #!/bin/bash > echangelog "${1}" > repoman scan > repoman commit -m "${1}" Even simpler, as repoman commit abort in case of errors in repoman scan: ecommit() { echangelog "$@" repoman commit -m "$@" } add that to your .bashr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Caleb Tennis
On Monday 08 August 2005 08:14 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > If you could bring up some specific examples, we could discuss them. Sure. Qt has optional support for xkb, tablet, fontconfig, xrender, xrandr, xcursor, xinerama (already a use flag), xshape, and xsm. I'd really hate to add 8 more use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Markus Rothe
Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:36:18 + > Markus Rothe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Personaly I find it a little bit annoying to write changes twise. One > > time in Changelog and one time in --commitmsg. How about using the > > commitmsg for Changelog as default, but if a C

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Simon Stelling
Markus Rothe wrote: Personaly I find it a little bit annoying to write changes twise. One time in Changelog and one time in --commitmsg. How about using the commitmsg for Changelog as default, but if a Changelog entry already exists, then write nothing to Changelog. #!/bin/bash echangelog "${1}

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 11:36:18 + Markus Rothe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personaly I find it a little bit annoying to write changes twise. One > time in Changelog and one time in --commitmsg. How about using the > commitmsg for Changelog as default, but if a Changelog entry already > exists, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper commit messages

2005-08-09 Thread Markus Rothe
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > If you're the sort that writes good ChangeLog messages anyway, there's > nothing wrong with reusing them as the commit message. If you have a > really really good reason for not using a ChangeLog message, or if you > haven't yet written a shell alias for reusing ChangeLog m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-09 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 08/08/2005-01:08:03(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types >> snip > The font-server flag may be necessary in libXfont, but I haven't fully > explored this yet. If it turns out to be the case, it'll be removed as > an optional flag and forced on. Unfortunately, it seems it does. I did it with "-fo