Mike Frysinger wrote:
If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
Gentoo dev list to see.
Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
Looking back at the last two years, what are
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:14 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
Mike Frysinger wrote:
Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
Looking back at the last two years, what are the major
changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I know there has
been great strides
On 31/12/05, Carsten Lohrke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's
- broken
Works for me, and I can't see any bugs in bugzilla?
- dead upstream
Not true, mailing list is active, last post Dec 27th, and the author
responds to emails.
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Lares Moreau wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:14 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I have been involved with many Volunteer organisations over the last
couple years. Not all computer related. Something Gentoo is notably
missing is a Mission Statement. IMO a Mission statement acts as a beacon
on
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them.
I don't think that's really a solution. That's just a way to minimize
what they get. If you
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to
make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a
mission statement, but no one ever remembers what it is or abides by it.
I guess there isn't
Hi all,
I'm wondering if there is an easy way to get a keyring with all
developer gpg keys pushed to users.
I know that carpaski had at one point put such a keyring online, but it
hasn't been maintained.
So right now you'd have to go through the website (fetch the keys from
the roll-call page
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 20:03 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to
make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a
mission statement, but no one
Lares Moreau wrote:
Upon doing some reading about what _exactly_ Gentoo council does, it
seems to me that Gentoo Council is an operations board. I think what
Patrick and Lance are getting at (correct me if I'm wrong) is that we
need to have some form of Governance board. A board that doesn't
On 02-01-2006 20:03:54 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I guess I'm almost hinting at that Gentoo needs a single entity that's
sole purpose is to drive/research the direction and goals for Gentoo.
Or call it proper hierarchy. Management.
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 20:49 +0100, Grobian wrote:
On 02-01-2006 20:03:54 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I guess I'm almost hinting at that Gentoo needs a single entity that's
sole purpose is to drive/research the direction and goals
Patrick Lauer wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to
make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a
mission statement, but no one ever remembers what it is or abides by it.
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them.
I don't think that's really a solution. That's just a way to minimize
what
Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Monday 02 January 2006 17:01, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Hi,
I recently switched to GCC 4.0.2. A handful of packages didn't (re-)compile
during emerge -e system and emerge -e world. Is there a big GCC 4 related
bug in bugzilla where I can report those
On 02-01-2006 21:12:03 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
If it isn't one person, then you would need to find two persons or even
more that are completely aligned and have the same visions. Since
leaders usually are charismatic and controversial where necessary to
achieve their goals, it is hard
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Monday 02 January 2006 09:01, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
I recently switched to GCC 4.0.2. A handful of packages didn't (re-)compile
during emerge -e system and emerge -e world. Is there a big GCC 4 related
bug in bugzilla where I can report
Grobian wrote:
On 02-01-2006 21:12:03 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
We already have a mission statement - to produce the best software
distribution, ever ;-)
Wether it should be Linux only, GNU-based or a metadistribution is a
rather touchy subject, so please try to keep the discussion
civilized
Chandler Carruth wrote:
Lance Albertson wrote:
Yeah, maybe so :-)
Reflecting on this more, I see that most of the council members are a
very important part of the active Gentoo development model (toolchain,
etc). They need to keep those roles active as much as possible, then
help on the
On Вск, 2006-01-01 at 21:35 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
We have currently 10371 ChangeLog files, 25 MB totally .
1365 == 13% with size = 4096 B, 12 MB totally
rsync from emerge --sync has --whole-file between its options, that
mean transfer the whole file if changed.
2) rotate
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Hi all!
Please help me to welcome Tobias Matzat aka SirSeoman who just entered
the ranks of Gentoo Developers. Tobias is our new German GWN Translator.
He is 25 years old and lives in Trier where he studies computer science
at the Trier University
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 15:03 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
Lance mentioned something about what he sees is a niche where Gentoo
does quite well. Produce the best software distribution, ever sounds
a bit vague to me. That's why I agree with Lance for now. Maybe after
a little research,
Ok then i suggest to add such input to Gentoo Manual that users not
interested in reading changelogs could mask them by rsync_excludes
*/*/ChangeLog
Greets
Pawel Madej
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Ok, last shoot, then let put this stuff to sleep.
Description of the attachment at the end:
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
don't want them instead of getting rid of them
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:10:46 +0100
Patrick Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So right now you'd have to go through the website (fetch the keys from
the roll-call page ... if you remember where that is) and import them
one by one (time-consuming).
Any automation of that process would be really
Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 10:35 +0100, Alexandre Buisse wrote:
After my last sync, I have this new block between evince and xpdf, which
is a problem at least to me.
Isn't there any way to make xpdf and poppler live together on the same
system?
Yeah. : )
See,
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 10:52:43PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
I wonder ... can we have one precise mission statement without
alienating a big part of our user base?
To copy another opensource group's mission statement,
Total World Domination
Hey, it's been working for them so far,
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Lance Albertson wrote:
| See the part that I said make sense to take out. What you described is
| a perfect example of something that needs to stay. All I'm getting at is
| that minor things that the package maintainer thinks isn't important to
|
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 08:10:46PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
Any automation of that process would be really appreciated :-)
I've got a script that generates it from the rollcall data, as part of
the keyring signing stuff.
I'll attach it tommorrow (limited Net access at the moment, between
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Lance Albertson wrote:
| Mike Frysinger wrote:
|
|
|If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
|vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
|Gentoo dev list to see.
|
|
| Gentoo has been missing some kind
Am Montag, 2. Januar 2006 21:45 schrieb ext Mark Loeser:
Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The policy is pretty much if it doesn't compile, you get to fix it. If
you have a patch then report it to bugzilla.
Actually, since I plan on moving this to ~arch soon, please report all
bugs to
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 01:43, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Montag, 2. Januar 2006 21:45 schrieb ext Mark Loeser:
Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The policy is pretty much if it doesn't compile, you get to fix it. If
you have a patch then report it to bugzilla.
Actually, since I
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 04:30, Luis F. Araujo wrote:
Now if i change to =app-text/xpdf-3.01-r4 , it works just fine.
But you significantly change its meaning.
I am not sure what it is happening here though... is the ! notation
broken?
Portage does not resolve block correctly, look at
Hi,
I recently switched to GCC 4.0.2. A handful of packages didn't (re-)compile
during emerge -e system and emerge -e world. Is there a big GCC 4 related
bug in bugzilla where I can report those problems or should I write one
report for each package?
Thanx...
Dirk
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Dirk Heinrichs
John Myers wrote:
Here's one I smashed together just now:
Thanks, this is now up at [1] and [2]. I just made a few minor changes.
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/?catid=upgrade
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/modular-x-howto.xml
Regards,
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Shyam Mani | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
docs-team |
On Monday 02 January 2006 17:01, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Hi,
I recently switched to GCC 4.0.2. A handful of packages didn't (re-)compile
during emerge -e system and emerge -e world. Is there a big GCC 4 related
bug in bugzilla where I can report those problems or should I write one
report for
On Monday 02 January 2006 09:01, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
I recently switched to GCC 4.0.2. A handful of packages didn't (re-)compile
during emerge -e system and emerge -e world. Is there a big GCC 4 related
bug in bugzilla where I can report those problems or should I write one
report for each
Andrej Kacian wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100
Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thoughts ? It's doable in some way ?
Whatever way will get chosen, a full copy of every ChangeLog should be made
available somewhere (somewhere other than CVS Attic), for future reference.
Grobian wrote:
On 01-01-2006 21:35:34 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote with possible deletions:
The information contained in the ChangeLogs is essential, and it must be
kept, but, force the users to download all that data it's not optimal.
That said I can see only two ways to reduce the ChangeLog
On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 14:08:18 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 17:32, you wrote:
It's not supposed to break runtime dependencies. Everything that was
installed before is installed now, in the same location.
But installed by another package. Of course it
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:35:34 +0100 Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| That said I can see only two ways to reduce the ChangeLog files (a
| centralized one is obviously not viable)
5) Anyone who really cares can use the excludes list, and check the
ChangeLogs
On Monday 02 January 2006 10:35, Alexandre Buisse wrote:
Isn't there any way to make xpdf and poppler live together on the same
system?
emerge unmerge xpdf
emerge -u poppler
emerge xpdf
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Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/
Gentoo/ALT lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video,
On Monday 02 January 2006 10:35, Alexandre Buisse wrote:
Isn't there any way to make xpdf and poppler live together on the same
system?
This is not about not being able to run both xpdf and poppler on one system.
The blocker exists, because one ebuild of one package installs now files
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 10:35 +0100, Alexandre Buisse wrote:
After my last sync, I have this new block between evince and xpdf, which
is a problem at least to me.
Isn't there any way to make xpdf and poppler live together on the same
system?
Yeah. : )
See, poppler blocks against -older-
Francesco Riosa wrote:
yes but this excludes totally the ChangeLogs. Having the latest changes
handy may be useful.
Simply trying to equilibrate benefits and disadvantages,
for desktop user that care on changelogs only when emerge fail
and the network administrator that has a local rsync mirror
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 11:53 +, Lisa Seelye wrote:
For a while the memcached community has had several PHP APIs. The first
one is represented in dev-libs/memcached-api-php and a more recent (and
maintained) version is a PECL version (dev-php4/pecl-memcache and
dev-php5/memcache in the
I'm thinking about adding an h264 useflag in the global scope, it will
be used by an handful of media project in a relatively short time.
Please tell me if you like the idea or not.
lu
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Luca Barbato
Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader
On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 01:12 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:54:21 -0500 Chris Gianelloni
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:40 -0500, Peter wrote:
| This is because glx has kernel as a dependency. Can't have it both
| ways (as someone else here pointed
Pawe?? Madej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a common user with ADSL 256kbps all additional data downloaded via
rsync causes longer wait for syncing. If I want to see a changelog i
go to packages.gentoo.org and read it. As i got Gentoo for about 10
months I don't remember if I read Changelog via
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Luca Barbato wrote:
I'm thinking about adding an h264 useflag in the global scope, it will be
used by an handful of media project in a relatively short time.
Please tell me if you like the idea or not.
Seems like a local use flag would be more suitable if it's only going
Matti Bickel wrote:
Pawe?? Madej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a common user with ADSL 256kbps all additional data downloaded via
rsync causes longer wait for syncing. If I want to see a changelog i
go to packages.gentoo.org and read it. As i got Gentoo for about 10
months I don't remember if I
Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matti Bickel wrote:
Pawe?? Madej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a common user with ADSL 256kbps all additional data downloaded via
rsync causes longer wait for syncing. If I want to see a changelog i
go to packages.gentoo.org and read it. As i got
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 05:37:48PM +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
Do you read every time the whole ChangeLog ?
If not, generally, how much of it ?
I often find myself grepping through the entire ChangeLog too see when
and who introduced a particular change in an ebuild - but I normally
do this
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 05:37:48PM +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
Do you read every time the whole ChangeLog ?
If not, generally, how much of it ?
I often find myself grepping through the entire ChangeLog too see when
and who introduced a particular change in
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conversation with people about stuff it's missing, and ways to improve,
mostly it was a proof of concept. However please try it out and play
with it a bit, find issues, etc..
included
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 16:10 -0500, Alec Warner wrote:
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Disclaimer: This is nowhere near done, mostly looking to start a
conversation with people about stuff it's missing, and ways to improve,
mostly it was a proof of concept. However please try
On Monday 02 January 2006 18:58, Lares Moreau wrote:
I would like to have the option to opt-out of having these flags
enabled. This way, the average user would not need to worry about
enabling flags, and the advanced user (opting out) doesn't have 'magic'
happen behind their back.
said
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