Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 22:34:32 + Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If any of you were thinking of removing the latest stable version of a package, don't. Even if you're the package maintainer, even if there are open security bugs against it, even if someone has filed you a bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:22:48 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Do you object to such packages (specifically with security issues) | being p.masked? If it's forcing a downgrade, yes. | I'm not sure we should be encouraging people to continue using | packages when we know there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Vlastimil Babka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Do you object to such packages (specifically with security issues) being p.masked? I'd say drop all but the slacking arch's keywords, as Luca suggested. It may well be one of the security-unsupported arches anyway. - --

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 11 February 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:22:48 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn | I'm not sure we should be encouraging people to continue using | packages when we know there are known security issues. You assume that being affected by a local denial of service on a

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 07:56:29 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wonder if there'd be a way of levaraging the glsa access tags ... if (remote in access) screw over $ARCH in KEYWORDS -mike If it's a security-unsupported arch we probably don't even care about that enough to lose

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:33:52 + Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:22:48 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Do you object to such packages (specifically with security issues) | being p.masked? If it's forcing a downgrade, yes. | I'm not sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Raphael Marichez
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I think if we're to promote packages that have security issues on an arch, we need to be very clear that we're not making reasonable efforts to ensure that arch is free of known exploits. I agree. The term promote is perhaps a little bit

[gentoo-dev] Last rite libtc, tc2, tc2-modules and tcvp.

2007-02-11 Thread Samuli Suominen
Announcing last rites for following ebuilds, # Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (11 Feb 2007) # CVS is dead for 3 years. Bad USE of static. Libtool is broken # and it is maintainer-needed. dev-libs/libtc dev-libs/tc2 dev-libs/tc2-modules media-video/tcvp Unless someone steps up I'll be removing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rite libtc, tc2, tc2-modules and tcvp.

2007-02-11 Thread Luca Barbato
Samuli Suominen wrote: Announcing last rites for following ebuilds, # Samuli Suominen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (11 Feb 2007) # CVS is dead for 3 years. They moved to monotone http://viewmtn.inprovide.com/ Bad USE of static. Libtool is broken and it is maintainer-needed. Ouch dev-libs/libtc

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt raidtools and move people to mdadm

2007-02-11 Thread Joerg Bornkessel
Mike Frysinger wrote: anyone have a compelling reason for keeping raidtools anymore ? the mdadm package replaces all the functionality of raidtools and is actively maintained upstream ive kept it around mostly so people can transition to mdadm nicely but i think it's about time we

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:42:33 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I said nothing about local denial of service; perhaps you're thinking | of a particular instance - I'm not. To rhetorically follow your line | of discussion, you're happy to have remote exploits remain in the tree |

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Matti Bickel
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 15:42:33 +0100 Kevin F. Quinn wrote: | I said nothing about local denial of service; perhaps you're thinking | of a particular instance - I'm not. To rhetorically follow your line | of discussion, you're happy to have remote

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:18:45 +0100 Matti Bickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | And i understood he argued quite the opposite. To my knowledge the | security team p.masks common (type A and B) packages, and i'm sure | they don't do this for nothing, though i agree that probably should be | left for

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): | * Don't remove packages that will end up breaking the tree or | forcing downgrades; conversely, when vulnerable packages *can* be | removed safely, do so. | | And is/should be done right now :-) No, what's done right now is that Jakub files whiny bugs

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:30:43 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | - I'm *not* demanding anything from *arch teams*, the bugs are for | *maintainers* of those packages. I've already told you couple of | times, why are you making these misleading statements yet again? And yet, somehow

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:30:43 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | - I'm *not* demanding anything from *arch teams*, the bugs are for | *maintainers* of those packages. I've already told you couple of | times, why are you making these misleading statements yet

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:49:21 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Why should I assign bugs to arch teams??? Arch teams are not supposed | to punt stuff from the tree, it's maintainer's job. Because the arch teams have to do work before the maintainers can do anything. | *All* the recent

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 05:40:27PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:30:43 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | - I'm *not* demanding anything from *arch teams*, the bugs are for | *maintainers* of those packages. I've already told you couple of | times, why are you

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): | Screaming? WTF really. What's misleading about listing vulnerable | versions and asking for their removal? They can't be removed yet. Stop filing bugs telling people to do so. Eh? Why should I stop filing bugs about stale vulnerable cruft? Should it stay in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:50:02 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): | | Screaming? WTF really. What's misleading about listing vulnerable | | versions and asking for their removal? | | They can't be removed yet. Stop filing bugs telling people to do so. | | Eh?

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Alexander Færøy napsal(a): Hi, On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 07:50:02PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: Eh? Why should I stop filing bugs about stale vulnerable cruft? Should it stay in the tree forever (unless some $we_all_know_which_arch dev wakes up by miracle and moves)? If you give away enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:33:59 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So, what are you blaming me for here? Grrr. Misassigning or premature filing, as you prefer. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web :

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Matti Bickel
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): | Screaming? WTF really. What's misleading about listing vulnerable | versions and asking for their removal? They can't be removed yet. Stop filing bugs telling people to do so. Eh? Why should I stop filing bugs about stale

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:50:02 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Won't waste my time on your trollish rants any more. Hehe, whenever you write this, there's always several more posts from you down the same thread. It's kind of amusing. -- Andrej Ticho Kacian ticho at gentoo dot org

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:33:59 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | So, what are you blaming me for here? Grrr. Misassigning or premature filing, as you prefer. Oh sure... Next time, blame me for Sept 11, keep amusing us by your bullshit. -- Best regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Jakub Moc
Matti Bickel napsal(a): How about cc'ing arches, which are affected by this? You still get your point across and maybe arches move it up their priority list if they see a removal b/c of centuries old vulnerabilities. I did CC mips, and did write that it needs version x.y.z stabilized first.

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:23:44 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh sure... Next time, blame me for Sept 11, keep amusing us by your bullshit. If you like, I can say that you killed Jesus and were single-handedly responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Would that make you happy?

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:52:55 +0100 Matti Bickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | How about cc'ing arches, which are affected by this? You still get | your point across and maybe arches move it up their priority list if | they see a removal b/c of centuries old vulnerabilities. How about assigning the

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Gentle Reminder

2007-02-11 Thread Olivier Crête
On Sun, 2007-11-02 at 22:46 +, Stephen Bennett wrote: On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:23:44 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh sure... Next time, blame me for Sept 11, keep amusing us by your bullshit. If you like, I can say that you killed Jesus and were single-handedly

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2007-02-11 23h59 UTC

2007-02-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2007-02-11 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-emacs/gnuplot-mode 2007-02-05 07:14:16 opfer dev-ada/adabroker 2007-02-05 11:03:57 george dev-games/cel-cvs