On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:24:33PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Friday 16 March 2007, Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog) wrote:
> > Just a note to this. I'm co-maintainer of netbeans ebuild. Netbeans does
> > milestone releases. These are pretty stable and usable since milestone 7
> > of netbeans 6.0 wi
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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16 Mar 2007 09:30:41 -0400:
> On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 09:28 +, Duncan wrote:
>> If it's not correct, that they are staff and /not/ devs, therefore
>> /not/ eligible for council, then I've misunderstood. Apo
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri,
16 Mar 2007 09:23:31 -0400:
> On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 04:35 +, Duncan wrote:
>> * "If you perceive a breach of the Code of Conduct guidelines, let the
>> proctors know." How? [N]o general proctor address i
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 03:11 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:25:17 -0400
>> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hierarchy would be the following
>>>
>>> snapshot -> dev -> build -> alpha -> beta
>> And that's where the
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 03:11 +0100, Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:25:17 -0400
> "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hierarchy would be the following
> >
> > snapshot -> dev -> build -> alpha -> beta
>
> And that's where the problems start. As you said you
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 21:23 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Friday 16 March 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> > Well that's the problem. When I use say _pre instead of _dev it gives
> > off the wrong impression to users judging package by it's name. Since
> > it's not a pre-release. A user ma
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:25:17 -0400
"William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hierarchy would be the following
>
> snapshot -> dev -> build -> alpha -> beta
And that's where the problems start. As you said yourself _snapshot is
something universal so it doesn't really fit anywher
On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Caleb Cushing wrote:
> > Perhaps they're more
> > interested in generating ad revenue from whipped-up scandals...
>
> or maybe they have a point. distrowatch hpd ranking show's us down from a
> few years ago we were
those rankings are less significant/accurate than sl
On Friday 16 March 2007, Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog) wrote:
> Just a note to this. I'm co-maintainer of netbeans ebuild. Netbeans does
> milestone releases. These are pretty stable and usable since milestone 7
> of netbeans 6.0 with many new features that make sense to use the
> milestone releases. I
On Friday 16 March 2007, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> Well that's the problem. When I use say _pre instead of _dev it gives
> off the wrong impression to users judging package by it's name. Since
> it's not a pre-release. A user may go upstream looking for some sort of
> pre-release. Which they
William L. Thomson Jr. said the following:
>
> Well that's the problem. When I use say _pre instead of _dev it gives
> off the wrong impression to users judging package by it's name. Since
> it's not a pre-release. A user may go upstream looking for some sort of
> pre-release. Which they won't find
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:00:51 -0400
"William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Understandable for sure. Thus not really putting any sort of time
> frame on implementation. Maybe EAPI=1 or beyond. Up to others that
> would implement it. Just was tossing it out there, providing some
> feed
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 23:46 +, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:11:43 +0100
> Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > There's absolutely no reason to absorb every single version naming
> > scheme on earth. Gentoo's does work nicely and more than we have
> > would only be
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Just a note to this. I'm co-maintainer of netbeans ebuild. Netbeans does
milestone releases. These are pretty stable and usable since milestone 7
of netbeans 6.0 with many new features that make sense to use the
milestone releases. I have to name the e
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:11:43 +0100
Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's absolutely no reason to absorb every single version naming
> scheme on earth. Gentoo's does work nicely and more than we have
> would only be irritating to the user. Simply use _pre or
> whatever fits, but exte
On Sat, 2007-03-17 at 00:11 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> There's absolutely no reason to absorb every single version naming scheme on
> earth. Gentoo's does work nicely and more than we have would only be
> irritating to the user. Simply use _pre or whatever fits, but
> extending our naming s
There's absolutely no reason to absorb every single version naming scheme on
earth. Gentoo's does work nicely and more than we have would only be
irritating to the user. Simply use _pre or whatever fits, but
extending our naming scheme is unneeded and pointless.
Carsten
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On Wednesday 14 March 2007, Christian Bricart wrote:
> Tupone Alfredo schrieb:
> > games-rpg has been masked on 18 jul 2006 and there is a pending bug
> > #167547 Broken dependancies in "games-rpg/planeshift-0.3.011"
> > Removing is planned for this end of week: 17 Mar 2007.
>
> 0.3.011 is wy t
Ned Ludd wrote:
> Here are the remaining offenders for sync 1174037821 that match
> '$(which ' or '`which ' in eclasses and ebuilds.
>
> eclass/mysql.eclass:529:
> eclass/mysql.eclass:530:
> media-libs/pdflib/pdflib-5.0.4_p1-r1.ebuild:39:
> media-libs/pdflib/pdflib-6.0.3-r1.ebuild:48:
> media-lib
Am Freitag, 16. März 2007 23:16 schrieb Ned Ludd:
> On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 19:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Monday 12 March 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>
> Here are the remaining offenders for sync 1174037821 that match
> '$(which ' or '`which ' in eclasses and ebuilds.
>
> sci-mathematics
After reviewing
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html#file-naming-rules
I still seem to be having to finagle version names for some packages. At
the moment it would be nice if we also had the following suffixes
available
_dev
Apache upstream, specifically Tomcat/mod
Ned Ludd wrote:
> Here are the remaining offenders for sync 1174037821 that match
> '$(which ' or '`which ' in eclasses and ebuilds.
> dev-db/hsqldb/hsqldb-1.7.3.1-r1.ebuild:48:
This one just echos which to a script so it's safe I think.
Regards,
Petteri
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On Mon, 2007-03-12 at 19:15 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 12 March 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > instead, since we require bash for our ebuilds, use the builtin `type -p`
>
> err i botched that ;)
>
> `type -p` is almost a complete drop in replacement for which ... it does not
> wor
Also part of the "maturity" point. Perhaps we all just need to grow up? ;)
Very likely, but how? I think my own opinion was best expressed by John
Galsworthy (or Soames Forsyte of the Forsyte Saga): "One of these days
they’d try and bring in Prohibition, he shouldn’t wonder; but that cock
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 13:45 -0700, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> Larry Lines wrote:
> > I learned Linux by
> > installing and hacking and suffering over Gentoo. Exactly one year
> > after installing Gentoo, I was in Hong Kong building and programming for
> > a Linux cluster. There is no other d
* Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07/03/12 16:36 -0700]:
> app-cdr/cdrkit/cdrkit-1.0.ebuild:26:
> app-cdr/cdrkit/cdrkit-1.1.2.ebuild:28:
Those are fixed.
Regards, Lars
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Hiya all,
It is that time of the year again, and we have yet once more been
accepted as a mentoring organisation for SoC.
Interested mentors (current Gentoo developers) should fill in the mentor
application (link sent to -core). Interested mentors, co-mentors, people
with project ideas and pros
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 09:28 +, Duncan wrote:
> If it's not correct, that they are staff and /not/ devs, therefore /not/
> eligible for council, then I've misunderstood. Apologies for the noise.
Staff are "devs" and are eligible for the Council just as much as Infra
are "staff" and eligible f
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 04:35 +, Duncan wrote:
> * "If you perceive a breach of the Code of Conduct guidelines, let the
> proctors know." How? The council's email address is given for appeals,
> but no general proctor address is listed. (At least none that I saw, even
> after searching, so i
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 13:33 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> Also part of the "maturity" point. Perhaps we all just need to grow up? ;)
I do think we have a significantly lower average age than the Linux
Kernel developer group. This probably plays a significant role in how
things go on around here.
On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 00:50 +, Steve Long wrote:
> Jakob Buchgraber wrote:
> > So I just think something has to be changed e.g. making paludis an
> > official gentoo project and mentioning it in the docs, but keep portage
> > as the default pm.
> > If portage can't get improved, then people hav
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 20:17 -0400, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Now look at the LKML. It's often hard to find general discussion behind
> the truckloads of patches and river of technical review emails. A large
> proportion of the content is not "understandable" unless you have a good
> knowledge of C,
darren kirby wrote:
>
>
> Exactly. LSBs insistence on using RPM as the "One True Package Manager" seems
> incredibly daft to me. It was RPM-hell that steered me towards Gentoo all
> those years ago in the first place. I cannot put into words how much I loathe
> RPM.
>
> Seems to me if Gentoo who
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:44:02 + Steve Long
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's a difference between UI improvements like FEATURES=candy
> > and UI improvements like ability to do dependency-based uninstalls
> > (merely one example). UI improvements that improve user experience
> > substantial
Hi all,
Yesterday the Emacs Project Overlay has been created on
overlays.gentoo.org and is accessible through Layman $(layman -a
emacs). What's new?
* An eselect module for Emacs to control the version of Emacs you use
** changes the target of /usr/bin/emacs which up to now simply took the
mos
On Friday 16 March 2007 18:58, Luca Barbato wrote:
> Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > That's not entirely true. The main trouble with refactoring portage code
> > is that there is no defined public API and so even the littlest changes
> > are likely to break things in gentoolkit and several of the portage g
I'd just like to say good job and thanks, to all involved in the CoC.
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Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMO ciaran has definitely been trolling this list and it's doing my
> head in. Is there anyone else who feels the same, strongly enough to
> risk his ire?
If you think Ciaran is trolling, just ignore him. Be part of the
s
On 16/03/07, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
> We are always ready to listen to feedback and constructive criticism, but
> your constant trolling against the forums can't be classified as such.
>
IMO ciaran has definitely been trolling this list and it's doing my
Jason Stubbs wrote:
> That's not entirely true. The main trouble with refactoring portage code is
> that there is no defined public API and so even the littlest changes are
> likely to break things in gentoolkit and several of the portage gui front end
> packages.
What about branching, doing t
Jakob Buchgraber wrote:
>
> Why don't you join the portage team and try to persuade the current
> portage devs and help to implement the "killer features"?
The main problem with such projects is that you cannot do some stuff in
an easy way, that's the reason you have from scratch rewrite of 2.0
c
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Steve Long wrote:
> Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
>> We are always ready to listen to feedback and constructive criticism, but
>> your constant trolling against the forums can't be classified as such.
>>
> IMO ciaran has definitely been trolling this list
Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:41:50
+:
> Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
>> We are always ready to listen to feedback and constructive criticism,
>> but your constant trolling against the forums can't be classified as
>> such.
>>
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:28:10AM +, Duncan wrote:
> > I think you missed one thing. From the council page: "Only Gentoo
> > developers may be nominated" Thus your corner-case of a moderator that
> > does nothing else wanting to become a council member is not valid,
> > because the moderator i
"Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
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Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:07:45 -0700:
> I think you missed one thing. From the council page: "Only Gentoo
> developers may be nominated" Thus your corner-case of a moderator that
> does nothing else wanting to become
> There's a difference between UI improvements like FEATURES=candy and UI
> improvements like ability to do dependency-based uninstalls (merely one
> example). UI improvements that improve user experience substantially
> are fine. Minor UI improvements are good too, but not when they're
> being tou
Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
> We are always ready to listen to feedback and constructive criticism, but
> your constant trolling against the forums can't be classified as such.
>
IMO ciaran has definitely been trolling this list and it's doing my head in.
Is there anyone else who feels the same, st
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> There isn't one yet, but proctors@ or reporting on BugZilla will
> probably work fine as soon as kingtaco and kloeri actually get the
> initial proctors together.
>
In all seriousness I propose [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I am not trying to start a
bidding war here for names, so p
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