Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)

2013-02-12 Thread Luca Barbato
On 12/02/13 08:21, Ian Whyman wrote: Guys, Can we not just have a developer wide vote or something? This instance clearly not going to resole itself. It is a little bikeshed. Originally the virtual was ordered in a way, then ordered in another and now we are discussing which one is better

Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)

2013-02-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Ian Whyman thev00...@gentoo.org wrote: Can we not just have a developer wide vote or something? This instance clearly not going to resole itself. I don't think the average developer is really in a good position to resolve this - it will just create a whole lot

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2013-02-12 Thread Markos Chandras
On 12 February 2013 12:45, Ian Delaney (idella4) idel...@gentoo.org wrote: idella4 13/02/12 12:45:55 Modified: package.mask Log: xen-tools-4.2.1-r2.ebuild masked due to need for further refinement, adding to virtualizarion overlay Revision ChangesPath 1.14465

Re: Discussing defaults (Was: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in virtual/ffmpeg: ffmpeg-9.ebuild ChangeLog ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1.ebuild)

2013-02-12 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:16:22 +0100 Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/02/13 08:21, Ian Whyman wrote: Guys, Can we not just have a developer wide vote or something? This instance clearly not going to resole itself. It is a little bikeshed. Originally the virtual was ordered

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC/PATCH] A cleaner API for virtualx.eclass

2013-02-12 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 2/11/13 11:14 PM, Michał Górny wrote: My patches introduce a single wrapper with argv-as-parameter syntax. That is, the fore-mentioned example would look like: virtualx run_tests --foo Maybe we can just adapt Ubuntu's (I think) xvfb-run? More standardization == profit. Thank you

Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Christopher Head
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:43:02 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: +1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because I didn't have the proper firmware installed (I guess older kernel sources

Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Christopher Head
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:49:03 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Most external firmware is not needed to boot. If you need it to boot, you will have to stow it in the initramfs. For those of us who prefer monolithic kernels, virtually all firmware is needed to boot. Even if a network

Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Fabio Erculiani
I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through genkernel. Pretty much the same I do in Sabayon since 2007. -- Fabio Erculiani

Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 12-02-2013 a las 19:43 +, Fabio Erculiani escribió: I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through genkernel. Pretty much the same I do in Sabayon since 2007. I think shouldn't have any

Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El mar, 12-02-2013 a las 19:43 +, Fabio Erculiani escribió: I am starting to believe that this is yet another good reason for having official ebuilds building binaries off gentoo-sources through genkernel. Pretty much the

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Duncan
Christopher Head posted on Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:39:57 -0800 as excerpted: On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:49:03 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Most external firmware is not needed to boot. If you need it to boot, you will have to stow it in the initramfs. For those of us who prefer

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Duncan
Christopher Head posted on Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:38:14 -0800 as excerpted: On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:43:02 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: +1 from me; I've had a few machines break on kernel upgrades because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Christopher Head
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:51:15 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Christopher Head posted on Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:38:14 -0800 as excerpted: On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:43:02 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Fabio Erculiani

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: as preparation for the up-coming cvs-git migration of the portage tree, the council is strongly suggesting that from this point forward all developers sign their manifests with their gpg key as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: install linux-firmware with kernel sources (was Re: Lastrite: Firmware cleanup, part #1)

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/12/2013 09:43 PM, Duncan wrote: Christopher Head posted on Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:39:57 -0800 as excerpted: On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:49:03 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Most external firmware is not needed to boot. If you need it to boot, you will have to stow it in the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the key or create a new one? Sign the new with the old one? IMHO the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:35AM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the key or create a new one? Sign the new with the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:14:15 -0600 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: All, as preparation for the up-coming cvs-git migration of the portage tree, the council is strongly suggesting that from this point forward all developers sign their manifests with their gpg key as described in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:47:34 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: It would help if repoman noticed when you have FEATURES=-sign. :-\ https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457034 jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:47:34 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: It would help if repoman noticed when you have FEATURES=-sign. :-\ https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457034 We can do the opposite, and just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:07:33 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:47:34 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: It would help if repoman noticed when you have FEATURES=-sign. :-\

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Michael Weber
On 02/13/2013 12:28 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:35AM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the