[gentoo-dev] kdump

2013-03-27 Thread Justin
Hi all,

if someone is interested in implementing any infrastructure for a more
advanced usage of kdump for gentoo, please contact me.

justin





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Re: [gentoo-dev] kdump

2013-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Justin j...@gentoo.org wrote:

 if someone is interested in implementing any infrastructure for a more
 advanced usage of kdump for gentoo, please contact me.


I've blogged a bit about this and wrote the wiki page.  However, the
last time I actually tried to use kdump it wasn't working.  I don't
remember the details.  I know I could boot another kernel immediately,
but if I loaded a crash kernel it wouldn't actually boot on a panic.

It would be nice to have a more official solution for this on Gentoo.
I don't mind messing around with it.  I don't have a ton of time but
if you want to take the lead I can try to pitch in a bit.

Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] kdump

2013-03-27 Thread Justin
On 27/03/13 12:40, Rich Freeman wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Justin j...@gentoo.org wrote:

 if someone is interested in implementing any infrastructure for a more
 advanced usage of kdump for gentoo, please contact me.

 
 I've blogged a bit about this and wrote the wiki page.  However, the
 last time I actually tried to use kdump it wasn't working.  I don't
 remember the details.  I know I could boot another kernel immediately,
 but if I loaded a crash kernel it wouldn't actually boot on a panic.
 
 It would be nice to have a more official solution for this on Gentoo.
 I don't mind messing around with it.  I don't have a ton of time but
 if you want to take the lead I can try to pitch in a bit.
 
 Rich
 

Hi,

Actually I don't need kdump that's why I asked for some input.

During the version bump today, I saw that fedora is providing lots of
script and services for it. So I thought someone might be interested and
port that to gentoo.

kexec itself is working fine on gentoo.

Justin



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed update to pax-utils.eclass

2013-03-27 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le dimanche 24 mars 2013 à 20:20 -0400, Anthony G. Basile a écrit :
 Last call, does anyone have a problem with me updating the 
 pax-utils.eclass?  See Ref [3] above for the code.  I'll wait a couple 
 more days and then do it.

looks like last conditional branch for XT marking in pax-mark function
is not using the proper variables (pt_* instead ot xt_*).

The PAX_MARKINGS variable is not documented with eclass documentation
markup, it should at least get an @INTERNAL if this is not supposed to
be modified by eclass users.

_pax_list_files can receive documentation this way as well.

You should probably try to avoid mixing [[ ]] and [ ] in the eclass. [ ]
seems to be less used here so just have everything [[ ]] and drop the
useless quoting that came with [ ].

The rest looks fine.

-- 
Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
Gentoo




Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add HEXCHAT_PLUGINS to USE_EXPAND

2013-03-27 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le mardi 26 mars 2013 à 22:28 +0100, Denis M. a écrit :
 On 03/21/2013 02:09 PM, Denis M. wrote:
 
  Hello, I'd want to ask if it's possible and a good idea to add
  HEXCHAT_PLUGINS to the global USE_EXPAND var.
  
  HEXCHAT_PLUGINS has been created as a user (and maintainer) request
  in bug 461972 [1] to handle easily the net-irc/hexchat plugins that
  this package offers, which are: checksum, doat, fishlim and sysinfo.
  
  The purposed ebuild can be found on the bug's attached files list.
  
  Regards,
  Denis M. (Phr33d0m)
  
  [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461972 
 Bump. 
 
 Hi again, could I get a decisive answer on this please?

That does not sound like a bad idea, however I wonder how this extends
exactly if we start to do this for ebuilds which install a couple of
plugins behind a few regular USE flags nowadays like rhythmbox, abiword,
etc.

-- 
Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
Gentoo




Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-im/kmess

2013-03-27 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le samedi 23 mars 2013 à 10:46 +, Markos Chandras a écrit :
 # Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org (23 Mar 2013)
 # MSN service terminated.
 # You can still use your MSN account in net-im/skype
 # or switch to an open protocol instead
 # Removal in 30 days
 net-im/kmess

MSN accounts also work with empathy in 3.6 and up (at least as
configured through gnome-online-accounts). Either the xmpp gateway
bridges to skype or the it was not shut down yet.

-- 
Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
Gentoo




Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-im/kmess

2013-03-27 Thread Markos Chandras
On 27 March 2013 12:55, Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Le samedi 23 mars 2013 à 10:46 +, Markos Chandras a écrit :
 # Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org (23 Mar 2013)
 # MSN service terminated.
 # You can still use your MSN account in net-im/skype
 # or switch to an open protocol instead
 # Removal in 30 days
 net-im/kmess

 MSN accounts also work with empathy in 3.6 and up (at least as
 configured through gnome-online-accounts). Either the xmpp gateway
 bridges to skype or the it was not shut down yet.

 --
 Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
 Gentoo



fwiw I changed that message. I will not remove the clients as they may
work for a bit longer. I will just
keep them masked so users will know that something may or may not
break in the future and they should
start planing their next step

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add HEXCHAT_PLUGINS to USE_EXPAND

2013-03-27 Thread Markos Chandras
On 27 March 2013 12:52, Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Le mardi 26 mars 2013 à 22:28 +0100, Denis M. a écrit :
 On 03/21/2013 02:09 PM, Denis M. wrote:

  Hello, I'd want to ask if it's possible and a good idea to add
  HEXCHAT_PLUGINS to the global USE_EXPAND var.
 
  HEXCHAT_PLUGINS has been created as a user (and maintainer) request
  in bug 461972 [1] to handle easily the net-irc/hexchat plugins that
  this package offers, which are: checksum, doat, fishlim and sysinfo.
 
  The purposed ebuild can be found on the bug's attached files list.
 
  Regards,
  Denis M. (Phr33d0m)
 
  [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461972
 Bump.

 Hi again, could I get a decisive answer on this please?

 That does not sound like a bad idea, however I wonder how this extends
 exactly if we start to do this for ebuilds which install a couple of
 plugins behind a few regular USE flags nowadays like rhythmbox, abiword,
 etc.

 --
 Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
 Gentoo



Either way is fine for me. I don't mind extending the USE_EXPAND
variable but others may be skeptical about this.

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang



Re: [gentoo-dev] Add HEXCHAT_PLUGINS to USE_EXPAND

2013-03-27 Thread René Neumann
Am 21.03.2013 14:09, schrieb Denis M.:
 Hello, I'd want to ask if it's possible and a good idea to add
 HEXCHAT_PLUGINS to the global USE_EXPAND var.

I personally don't think this is a good idea. Imho USE_EXPAND should be
used for flags that will be used by multiple (5?) packages -- for the
simple reason, that USE_EXPAND somewhat hints for using /etc/make.conf
for configuration (yes, you can still use package.use, but this feature
is probably not so well known). Also the bug gives no reasoning, why
having USE_EXPAND is a good thing here.

- René




Re: [gentoo-dev] kdump

2013-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Justin j...@gentoo.org wrote:
 During the version bump today, I saw that fedora is providing lots of
 script and services for it. So I thought someone might be interested and
 port that to gentoo.


I've given it thought, but I'm not quite at the point where I'd want
to take that on single-handed.  I don't mind contributing some,
however.  I guess see what kind of response you get and we'll figure
out what makes sense.

 kexec itself is working fine on gentoo.

That was my experience when I wrote the blog, but not the last time I
tried using it...  But, I haven't tested it in a few months.  That is,
kexec for a recovery kernel - it works fine if you want to do an
immediate reboot.

Rich



Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed update to pax-utils.eclass

2013-03-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Le dimanche 24 mars 2013 à 20:20 -0400, Anthony G. Basile a écrit :
 Last call, does anyone have a problem with me updating the
 pax-utils.eclass?  See Ref [3] above for the code.  I'll wait a couple
 more days and then do it.

 looks like last conditional branch for XT marking in pax-mark function
 is not using the proper variables (pt_* instead ot xt_*).

 The PAX_MARKINGS variable is not documented with eclass documentation
 markup, it should at least get an @INTERNAL if this is not supposed to
 be modified by eclass users.

 _pax_list_files can receive documentation this way as well.

 You should probably try to avoid mixing [[ ]] and [ ] in the eclass. [ ]
 seems to be less used here so just have everything [[ ]] and drop the
 useless quoting that came with [ ].

You should never use [ in the tree.

-A


 The rest looks fine.

 --
 Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org
 Gentoo