Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New eclass: mate

On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:19:43AM -0400, NP-Hardass wrote: > # Old EAPIs are banned. > case "${EAPI:-0}" in > 5|6) ;; > *) die "EAPI=${EAPI} is not supported" ;; > esac How reasonable would it be to ban EAPI5 as well? This is a new eclass so it may be better to just take the time to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Michał Górny wrote: >> That would be a policy violation. Packages should pick a reasonable >> default if flags are conflicting, but not force users to >> micro-manage their flags. > Who did establish that *idiotic* policy and why is he still a > developer? Michał, You

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

Michał Górny schrieb: 2. Packages use REQUIRED_USE to force an appropriate choice. That would be a policy violation. Packages should pick a reasonable default if flags are conflicting, but not force users to micro-manage their flags. Who did establish that *idiotic* policy and why is he

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 22:24:20 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Michał Górny wrote: > > > That said, I think we could go with some generic idea like this > > (assumes new GUI expand is being used): > > > [...] > > > 2. Packages use REQUIRED_USE to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

> On Thu, 9 Jun 2016, Michał Górny wrote: > That said, I think we could go with some generic idea like this > (assumes new GUI expand is being used): > [...] > 2. Packages use REQUIRED_USE to force an appropriate choice. That would be a policy violation. Packages should pick a reasonable

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 15:16:57 +0200 Alexander Berntsen wrote: > It would be wise of us to create a novel way of involving users from > the ashes of Sunrise. > > Here is my suggestion: It would be fruitful to encourage every single > Gentoo user to have their own repository.

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] cmake-utils.eclass: do not pass CMAKE_INSTALL_DO_STRIP in EAPI 6 and later

CMAKE_INSTALL_DO_STRIP does not appear to be widely used, so this is a good opportunity to get rid of it. --- eclass/cmake-utils.eclass | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/eclass/cmake-utils.eclass b/eclass/cmake-utils.eclass index 02b06bb..bfd3581 100644 ---

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 12:03:16 -0700 Brian Dolbec wrote: > We instead implement something along the lines of: > > an ordered list of the gui toolkits in their preferred order of > desirability. This should be an all inclusive list. Note: these are > subject to package.use

[gentoo-dev] Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: The future of the Sunrise project)

Daniel Campbell posted on Wed, 08 Jun 2016 22:03:51 -0700 as excerpted: > I'm not sure what the problem with IRC is. In the context of your > quizzes, it's important that the interviews take place in real-time. It > allows a quick method of communication. It's informal, aims to be > friendly and

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-apps/dmtcp

# Michael Palimaka (9 Jun 2016) # Fails to build. Unmaintained. Masked for removal in 30 days. # Bug 574174. sys-apps/dmtcp

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-gfx/fbv

# Michael Palimaka (9 Jun 2016) # Fails to build with newer giflib. Unmaintained. Dead upstream. # Use media-gfx/fbida instead. # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug 571686. media-gfx/fbv

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-gfx/wings

# Michael Palimaka (9 Jun 2016) # Fails to build. Unmaintained. Masked for removal in 30 days. # Bug 574756 media-gfx/wings

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-i18n/xsim

# Michael Palimaka (9 Jun 2016) # Fails to build. Dead upstream. Masked for removal in 30 days. # Bug 575374. app-i18n/xsim

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > If you mean that we should go with what is currently popular, then > that would be Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, and to a lesser degree > Ubuntu. But I'm not sure what that mental exercise affords us. I am > more

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New eclass: mate

Greetings all, Sorry for the delay, had lots of recurrent hardware issues the last month or so. I will be adding this to the MATE project repo after I get your feedback, and then into Gentoo repo after I've had some users test out the new packages/eclass. Just a reminder/summary: There are 40-50

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 6:22 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > On 09/06/16 12:14, Johannes Huber wrote: >> This statement is not feeded with numbers. Distrowatch tells >> something else. > I don't know what "feeded" means. Distrowatch is useless for anything > but figuring out

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On 06/09/2016 12:38 PM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/16 16:53, Consus wrote: How all those people are expected to coordinate their work? I don't want to control this. That's up to them. It works well in Exherbo and NixOS. But I agree that

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/06/16 12:14, Johannes Huber wrote: > This statement is not feeded with numbers. Distrowatch tells > something else. I don't know what "feeded" means. Distrowatch is useless for anything but figuring out what distros are popular among people

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 5:41 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies? > Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

Am Mittwoch 08 Juni 2016, 15:16:57 schrieb Alexander Berntsen: > In the end, Gentoo might make a gigantic leap into the future with a > truly modular distribution. If anyone wants to look at distros that > get this more right than Gentoo, have a look at e.g. NixOS and Exherbo. This statement is

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On 09/06/16 10:58, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 09/06/16 11:55, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > According to Enigmail, it expired April 19th. > I suggest you refresh your keys. My signing subkey was signed April > 20th and expires in 2017. > Indeed, cache error, thanks. All square now. MJE

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/06/16 11:55, Daniel Campbell wrote: > According to Enigmail, it expired April 19th. I suggest you refresh your keys. My signing subkey was signed April 20th and expires in 2017. - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On 06/09/2016 02:53 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 09/06/16 10:48, Alexander Berntsen wrote: >> On 09/06/16 11:45, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> > Btw, your key is showing up as expired, Alex. >> It doesn't expire until next year. >> >> > > I'll blame it on Enigmail, but this is the information I'm

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On 09/06/16 10:48, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 09/06/16 11:45, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > Btw, your key is showing up as expired, Alex. > It doesn't expire until next year. > > I'll blame it on Enigmail, but this is the information I'm seeing: "EXPIRED KEY Good signature from "Alexander

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/06/16 11:45, M. J. Everitt wrote: > Btw, your key is showing up as expired, Alex. It doesn't expire until next year. - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/06/16 01:08, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Sigh. Every 2 years somebody else comes up with the same silly > idea. I stopped reading your email after this sentence. - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

On 09/06/16 10:37, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > On 08/06/16 16:39, Zac Medico wrote: > > The first obstacle that comes to my mind is how to discover the > > packages. There needs to be a central index of repositories which > > includes searchable metadata for all of the packages provided by > >

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/16 18:15, Peter Stuge wrote: > Do NOT - I repeat NOT - tie "user repos" to GitHub Inc. If I were in charge or to be involved, I would not even dream about tying users to a proprietary SaaS. That would be highly unethical in my view. - --

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/16 17:53, james wrote: >> DEAL? No thanks. - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXWTpTAAoJENQqWdRUGk8BPAsQAM1vjeh7AzBx8yVGHcZ0U+vJ

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/16 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote: > Do you propose that you can have cross-repo dependencies? Sure. This works well in Exherbo using Paludis. We could do it right now if we wanted to. > If so that creates a lot of potential issues, even if you

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/16 16:53, Consus wrote: > How all those people are expected to coordinate their work? I don't want to control this. That's up to them. It works well in Exherbo and NixOS. But I agree that tooling to support it would be useful. - --

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/06/16 16:39, Zac Medico wrote: > The first obstacle that comes to my mind is how to discover the > packages. There needs to be a central index of repositories which > includes searchable metadata for all of the packages provided by > those

Re: CoC (Was: Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project))

On 06/08/2016 11:21 PM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 22:07:06 -0700 Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> There are some of us against GitHub and/or other commercial outfits, so >> that's not a problem. We offer some mirrors on GitHub, and some devs >> host things on there, but

CoC (Was: Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project))

Hi! On Wed, 8 Jun 2016 22:07:06 -0700 Daniel Campbell wrote: > There are some of us against GitHub and/or other commercial outfits, so > that's not a problem. We offer some mirrors on GitHub, and some devs > host things on there, but it's nothing officially endorsed or otherwise > required by