Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ned Ludd wrote: | On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 14:45 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: |Our policy for X is that if upstream won't accept it, we won't either. |Perhaps you'd be interested in adopting that and convincing the reported |to get upstream interested?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping phpgroupware from the Portage tree

2005-11-21 Thread Thierry Carrez
Stuart Herbert wrote: I've just masked the package 'www-apps/phpgroupware', and will be dropping it from the tree soon. There are a number of issues with the project, including: * Outstanding security bugs * Upstream homepage no longer available * No real releases in over a year FYI, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-21 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 02:45:41PM -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Our policy for X is that if upstream won't accept it, we won't either. Perhaps you'd be interested in adopting that and convincing the reported to get upstream interested? The mobile herd has the same policy. Of course, simple

Re: [gentoo-dev] the upcoming ppp ebuild need to remove files from /etc

2005-11-21 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:35:35AM +0200, Alin Nastac wrote: The new ppp ebuild should erase /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 installed by previous versions of net-dialup/ppp. The upcoming sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11 will be able to handle any kind of PPP links. What would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-21 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 18 November 2005 18:09, Homer Parker wrote: Now that GLEP 41 (AT/HT) has passed, we need to designate a subdomain for their email. This will cover AT/HT's as well as forum help, so needs to be generic. So to start with let me throw a couple out: @staff.g.o @assist.g.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Distcc and SLP - request for testing

2005-11-21 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 21 November 2005 09:39, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: | On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 14:45 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: |Our policy for X is that if upstream won't accept it, we won't either. |Perhaps you'd be interested in adopting that and convincing the reported |to get

[gentoo-dev] Re: status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Duncan
Curtis Napier posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:18:21 -0500: http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org Also, I only use GNU/Linux and I have only tested on the following browsers: Mozilla-1.7 firefox-1.0 Opera-8.5 Internet Explorer-6 under CrossOver Office

Re: [gentoo-dev] the upcoming ppp ebuild need to remove files from /etc

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Alin Nastac wrote: Hi gang, The new ppp ebuild should erase /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 installed by previous versions of net-dialup/ppp. The upcoming sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre11 will be able to handle any kind of PPP links. What would be the best way of doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:21AM -0500, Curtis Napier wrote: If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari so feedback from

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-21 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 20 Nov 2005 14:57:49 +: On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:49:11 -0700 Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 04:29 -0700, Duncan wrote: | If the capacity is there, go RAID6 (dual parity RAID5, so two |

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:18:21 -0500 Curtis Napier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm asking for everyone (developers and users alike) to please have a look at the updated site and send any feedback you may have. Firefox-1.0.7 here, on a 1024x768 screen, and i think there is too much wasted space.

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Herbert G. Fischer
Good job! Shows nice on Firefox 1.0.7, Opera 8.5 and Konqueror 3.4.1! I don't know if you are accepting suggestions, but I have a few usability ones: - The top blue bar(s) is too much big. In a 1024x768 screen it takes almost half the showing page. Maybe decreasing the size of the second bar

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Jakub Moc
21.11.2005, 13:23:29, Herbert G. Fischer wrote: Good job! - The bottom menus are very nice but I think they are in the wrong place. The natural human being will search for all the site menu items on the top or first page (without scrolling). The rule in this case is to put all menu items

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
R Hill wrote: Daniel Ahlberg wrote: * if ebuild installs COPYING and/or INSTALL into doc. Is this actually important? There are a hell of a lot of ebuilds that fail under this rule. I'd like to start filing patches for some of the packages in this list so I'm interested in knowing

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Philip Webb
051121 Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: I would rather see something about system customization in general, not only CFLAGS but also USE flag et al, which is much more interresting. Something like Get Gentoo and make your own « sur mesure » system, but i don't know how to translate sur

[gentoo-dev] Frozen Bacula??

2005-11-21 Thread Herbert G. Fischer
Hi, I'm looking forward to use Bacula 1.38.1 that was released last week but not even 1.38.0 that was released 31 october 2005 has an ebuild yet. There is some problem with it? It's abandoned? Please let me know if you need help on this ebuild. I don't know how to create an ebuild and include it

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Gim
Firefox-1.0.7 here, on a 1024x768 screen, and i think there is too much wasted space. Since i'm not new to Gentoo, when i go to the front page it's either to follow link to the doc or to read news. The former is fine, but the later is not (news are the last ~10% of what i see):

Re: [gentoo-dev] Frozen Bacula??

2005-11-21 Thread Jakub Moc
21.11.2005, 14:22:39, Herbert G. Fischer wrote: Hi, I'm looking forward to use Bacula 1.38.1 that was released last week but not even 1.38.0 that was released 31 october 2005 has an ebuild yet. There is some problem with it? It's abandoned? Please let me know if you need help on this

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Alexey Chumakov
Curtis Napier пишет: If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari so feedback from those browsers would be much appreciated.

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Luis F. Araujo
Lance Albertson wrote: Curtis Napier wrote: If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari so feedback from those browsers

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 21 November 2005 14:24, Gim wrote: Seems like the amount of wasted space grows when fonts size is _reduced_. I'm no sure why/how such a thing is possible, but for sure it's something that has to be fixed in order to obtain suitable layouts for a wider set of firefox settings. I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Lance Albertson wrote: Curtis Napier wrote: If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari so feedback from those browsers would

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Aaron Kulbe
I have the same consern. I use a TFT-display (Dell 2005FPW) that has a quite bright back light which might be the cause of the light colors being hard to read. Petteri, I have that same display. I turn the brightness down to 40%, since it's way too bright at the default 100%. Cheers, Aaron

[gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
- the 'about' blurb has way too much vertical spacing == wasted - the ad bar on the left should be thrown behind a purple bar like the current site does ... it helps the user visually tune the space out as crap they can safely ignore (at least it helps me) - can we cut out the ads alogether for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 Critical News Reporting Round Two

2005-11-21 Thread Mint Shows
This feature should only be used for things that are directly related to the tree, and will cause mass breakage if ignored.I fully agree with this statement. I am behind the adoption of the GLEP only if it does what (I originally believed) was its purpose...to get CRITICAL news regarding package

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:09:55 + Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - the bar at the top which blathers on about what Gentoo has to offer i could do without completely (imo, you can read the About page) What about keeping it on front page only? (with the vertical size issue fixed sure)

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 03:49:42PM +0100, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:09:55 + Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - the bar at the top which blathers on about what Gentoo has to offer i could do without completely (imo, you can read the About page)

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Lares Moreau
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 07:49 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 051121 Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: I would rather see something about system customization in general, not only CFLAGS but also USE flag et al, which is much more interresting. Something like Get Gentoo and make your own « sur

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
Vapier wrote: [Mon Nov 21 2005, 08:09:55AM CST] - wheres the ufo guy [2] ? at least hide him in the bottom left corner of the page ... it'd keep with the mysterious nature of the fellow [2] http://www.gentoo.org/images/gridtest.gif Drobbins wanted to hang on to Znurt when he left. You're

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Petteri Räty
Aaron Kulbe wrote: I have the same consern. I use a TFT-display (Dell 2005FPW) that has a quite bright back light which might be the cause of the light colors being hard to read. Petteri, I have that same display. I turn the brightness down to 40%, since it's way too bright at the

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Lares Moreau
I don't know if the contents are supposed to be the 'live' website data, but, after scrolling down to the nice link tables at the bottom, clicking on GLEPs, the info is outdated. Only up to GLEP 38. Don't know if that is what you are looking for? Later Days -- Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday 21 of November 2005 16:08 Lares Moreau wrote: I don't know if the contents are supposed to be the 'live' website data, but, after scrolling down to the nice link tables at the bottom, clicking on GLEPs, the info is outdated. Only up to GLEP 38. Don't know if that is what you are

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:09:55 + Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | - the 'gentoo' text in the upper left of the page should use the cool | red bubble letters [1] ... or at least drop the infinity sign ... | yeah, the infinity sign is cool, but since it is in such a 'high | profile'

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/helixplayer

2005-11-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
After realplayer the last week, also helixplayer is pending removal from the tree. HelixPlayer, opensource player developed by Real and somewhat similar to RealPlayer has a bad history of security vulnerabilities and it's still vulnerable to a security issue (1.0.6 is out but still missing an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 Critical News Reporting Round Two

2005-11-21 Thread Andrew Muraco
Mint Shows wrote: This feature should only be used for things that are directly related to the tree, and will cause mass breakage if ignored. I fully agree with this statement. I am behind the adoption of the GLEP only if it does what (I originally believed) was its purpose...to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/helixplayer

2005-11-21 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:29:03PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: After realplayer the last week, also helixplayer is pending removal from the tree. Please make a habit of always supplying a list of alternates/replacements when writing a last rites email - saves us someone having to

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Olivier Crete
On Mon, 2005-21-11 at 02:18 -0500, Curtis Napier wrote: I'm asking for everyone (developers and users alike) to please have a look at the updated site and send any feedback you may have. I'm especially interested in feedback from anyone who uses accessibilty programs such as screen readers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/helixplayer

2005-11-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 21 November 2005 21:15, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Please make a habit of always supplying a list of alternates/replacements when writing a last rites email - saves us someone having to ask: Sorry, too used to know the media-video category by heart :| What replaces it? HelixPlayer

[gentoo-dev] Modular X porting: dependency changes

2005-11-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Because portage treats the default virtual differently than I was previously led to believe, everybody who's ported a package to modular X so far will need to make a small change. It's really easy, but it might take a bit of time to go through your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X porting: dependency changes

2005-11-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 21 November 2005 21:50, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Here's the change: virtual/x11 - =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.99 Is this the last change? :) Just to make sure, I received the broken pieces of the old method, so I don't really want to take them from the new one, too ;) -- Diego

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 15:35 -0500, A. Khattri wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Mike Frysinger wrote: - the 'gentoo' text in the upper left of the page should use the cool red bubble letters [1] Never liked the red lettering - very dated. I thought that Daniel was taking the red bubble

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X porting: dependency changes

2005-11-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: | On Monday 21 November 2005 21:50, Donnie Berkholz wrote: | |Here's the change: |virtual/x11 - =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.99 | | Is this the last change? :) | Just to make sure, I received the broken pieces of the

Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Jakub Moc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 21.11.2005, 20:16:47, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 01:37:00 -0600 Lance Albertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Variable names and commands are bright blue in the old docs. The new color is darker and that does not improve readability

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-video/helixplayer

2005-11-21 Thread Edward Catmur
On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 21:43 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Monday 21 November 2005 21:15, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Please make a habit of always supplying a list of alternates/replacements when writing a last rites email - saves us someone having to ask: Sorry, too used to

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The infinity design makes us look like a bunch of ricers. Kill it! +1 -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Developer Gentoo/PPC Operational Leader http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Luca Barbato
Curtis Napier wrote: This has been cross posted to gentoo-dev and www-redesign. make the purple bar with portage and the other feature disappear or at least 1/2 tall. Put the Community, Resource, Documentation either on the left in a pane or on the top. the sponsor pane should retain the

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 21 November 2005 18:24, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The infinity design makes us look like a bunch of ricers. Kill it! +1 not like I love the red letters... (the 'g' actually makes it similar to G/FBSD logo, never noted that before)... -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò -

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Curtis Napier wrote: I'm especially interested in feedback from anyone who uses accessibilty programs such as screen readers or if you are color blind or have any other accessibilty issues. Not being blind or otherwise visually handicapped, but I use rather large letters (18 pixels), do not

[gentoo-dev] aging ebuilds with unstable keywords

2005-11-21 Thread Daniel Ahlberg
Hi, This is an automatically created email message. http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable has just been updated with 14544 ebuilds. The page shows results from a number of tests that are run against the ebuilds. The tests are: * if a version has been masked for 30 days or more. * if an arch was in

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Carsten Lohrke
I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed by what I see compared to Aarons proposed look¹. a) Regarding the space below the two horizontal menus: A continuous image looks much better than these cells with a lot of useless and redundant links above them. If you think the space is wasted - well

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Grant Goodyear
It's interesting to compare http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org/ with http://www.aaronshi.com/gentoo/mainindex.html. One of the things that I always liked about the original design was the fact that the front page held a considerable amount of information without needing much vertical scrolling. On

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Corey Shields
On Monday 21 November 2005 01:07 pm, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I thought that Daniel was taking the red bubble letters. I also remember the discussion about the infinity logo way back then and the decision was made to keep it. For one, it is very easy to print, I thought that the vote was for

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Ingo Bormuth
- Where is the Search for __ in section __ field ? I would expect it somewhere on the top. See http://php.net for a good and tiny one. - I like the infinity sign. It looks cool and professionel (not too commercial). - I don't like the big, purple bar (portage, packages, get gentoo,

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 06:14:15PM -0600, Grant Goodyear wrote: One of the things that I always liked about the original design was the fact that the front page held a considerable amount of information without needing much vertical scrolling. on that note, here is another opinion of mine that

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 01:53:01AM +0100, Ingo Bormuth wrote: - Where is the Search for __ in section __ field ? I would expect it somewhere on the top. See http://php.net for a good and tiny one. ah, excellent idea ... we get people who ask for this from time to time in bugzilla

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:11:14 + Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 01:53:01AM +0100, Ingo Bormuth wrote: - Where is the Search for __ in section __ field ? I would expect it somewhere on the top. See http://php.net for a good and tiny one. ah,

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-21 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 22/11/2005-12:05:38(+0900): Георги Георгиев types input type=text name=as_q/ input type=hidden name=as_sitesearch name=gentoo.org/ That ought to be input type=hidden name=as_sitesearch value=gentoo.org/ of course. -- (* Georgi Georgiev (* Mr and Mrs PED, can I borrow 26.7% of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X porting: dependency changes

2005-11-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carsten Lohrke wrote: | On Monday 21 November 2005 21:50, Donnie Berkholz wrote: | |Here's the change: | virtual/x11 - =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.99 | | | virtual/x11 isn't xorg for all profiles. Perhaps the relevant people (macos?) could get in touch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X porting: dependency changes

2005-11-21 Thread Joshua Baergen
Donnie Berkholz wrote: It may be that we'll need to add x11-base/apple-xfree into the || list If the list keeps growing maybe we should consider a GLEP 37-style solution, like was suggested by Jason. It would allow us to make any further changes that are required (agreed, hopefully none)

[gentoo-dev] new developer Joshua Nichols (nichoj)

2005-11-21 Thread Jochen Maes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, it has taken a while but better late then never. Some off you might have seen a dude called nichoj around, well he's a brand new java herd member. He has been working hard before and still continues to amaze the java herd. He's a US

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Bugzilla Bug 112779: New and Improved Way to Handle /etc/portage

2005-11-21 Thread Zac Medico
capitalista wrote: The file grouping would be excellent in the sense that you could tar up a directory and make it available for others people to use, and all you would need to do is extract it to /etc/portage/includes. Does it often make sense to group a set of package.* files together?

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Bugzilla Bug 112779: New and Improved Way to Handle /etc/portage

2005-11-21 Thread capitalista
On 11/21/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it often make sense to group a set of package.* files together? Can you provide one or more examples of how this is useful? Sure, and I'll use KDE yet again for one example. In fact, this would have come in handy recently. When the 3.5

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Portage 2.0.53_rc7 and overlay problems in porthole

2005-11-21 Thread Brian
On Mon, 2005-21-11 at 20:47 -0800, Brian wrote: It seems that all the recent patches in portage may have affected the ability to get info reliably from packages in the overlay. At least for porthole. I've done some more debugging and found that the portage code does not always return versions