Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Matthias Langer
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
 (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
 it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
 bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
 for the 1.11.x branch ...
 -mike

Seems to work fine here ...

Portage 2.0.51.22-r3 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.4.4,
glibc-2.3.5-r2, 2.6.14.2 i686)
=
System uname: 2.6.14.2 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14
dev-lang/python: 2.3.5-r2, 2.4.2
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.12
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.16.1
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.20
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env 
/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config 
/usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=athlon-xp -pipe
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/gentoo/ 
LANG=en_US.utf8
LC_ALL=en_US.utf8
LINGUAS=de en
MAKEOPTS=-j2
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=x86 3dnow 3dnowext X aalib alsa apm audiofile avi berkdb
bitmap-fonts bzip2 bzlib cdr crypt cups curl dbus dvd dvdr emboss encode
esd evo exif expat fam ffmpeg firefox foomaticdb fortran gd gdbm gif
glut gmp gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile hal idn imagemagick
imlib ipv6 java jpeg junit lcms libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx mmxext mng
motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nsplugin nvidia ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam
pcre pdflib perl plotutils png python readline recode ruby sdl slang
speex spell sqlite sse ssl svga tcltk tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts
type1-fonts udev unicode usb vorbis win32codecs xine xml xml2 xmms xv
xvid zlib linguas_de linguas_en userland_GNU kernel_linux elibc_glibc
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LDFLAGS

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[gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Jakub Moc
Hello here,

the virtual/ thingy broke the deptree again with virtual/libstdc++ (see Bug
116253), essentially the same issue like with virtual/x11. These virtuals
need to go straight stable if any of their RDEPEND atoms is stable for a
particular arch.

Betelgeuse is working on a repoman check for this issue, meanwhile, if there
are more virtuals planned, please bear this in mind. :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-21 Thread Christian Andreetta
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  Better to use the correct list:
 
 $ metascan -av IUSE xml IUSE xml2 
 Generating package list ... done
 Scanning packages for ['IUSE', 'IUSE'] ... done
 
 media-libs/libwmf-0.2.8.3-r1
 net-fs/samba-3.0.20-r1
 net-fs/samba-3.0.14a-r3
 net-fs/samba-3.0.20b
 net-fs/samba-3.0.14a-r2
 net-fs/samba-3.0.20a
 dev-lang/php-4.3.11-r4
 dev-lang/php-4.4.0-r4
 dev-lang/php-4.4.1-r2
 net-print/pykota-1.22_p1548
 net-print/pykota-1.23_p1869-r1
 net-print/pykota-1.23_p1874
 net-print/pykota-1.23_p1869
 net-misc/sitecopy-0.13.4-r2
 
 Marius

Both

 -- net-fs/samba and
 -- net-print/pykota

pratically use xml2, with internal (==package) retrocompatibility checks on
the presence of older libraries. Moreover, the xml functionality is used
only by a very small percentage of users (and the vast majority of them use
xml2).
For these packages there should :-) be no issue in unifying the xml and xml2
use flags.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
 (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
 it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
 bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
 for the 1.11.x branch ...

Does this preclude any bug fixes going into 1.11 that affect the
release?  I have at least two that I would love to get resolved before
2006.0's release, and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12
isn't exactly the best plan for this.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Roy Marples
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12:49, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
  (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
  it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
  bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
  for the 1.11.x branch ...

 Does this preclude any bug fixes going into 1.11 that affect the
 release?  I have at least two that I would love to get resolved before
 2006.0's release, and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12
 isn't exactly the best plan for this.

Got bug numbers?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:49:37AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
  (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
  it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
  bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
  for the 1.11.x branch ...
 
 Does this preclude any bug fixes going into 1.11 that affect the
 release?  I have at least two that I would love to get resolved before
 2006.0's release

if you're referring to the multilib issue for amd64/ppc64, then no,
that is not in the ebuild yet ... talk to eradicator

 and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12
 isn't exactly the best plan for this.

and almost certainly wont happen, not to mention i'm pretty sure both
1.11.x and 1.12.x are broken in the same regard
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:13 +, Roy Marples wrote:
 On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12:49, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
   since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
   (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
   it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
   bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
   for the 1.11.x branch ...
 
  Does this preclude any bug fixes going into 1.11 that affect the
  release?  I have at least two that I would love to get resolved before
  2006.0's release, and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12
  isn't exactly the best plan for this.
 
 Got bug numbers?

57229
99682

I know there's at least one more, but I cannot seem to locate it at this
moment.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 14:26 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:49:37AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
   since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
   (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
   it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
   bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
   for the 1.11.x branch ...
  
  Does this preclude any bug fixes going into 1.11 that affect the
  release?  I have at least two that I would love to get resolved before
  2006.0's release
 
 if you're referring to the multilib issue for amd64/ppc64, then no,
 that is not in the ebuild yet ... talk to eradicator

That's the one.  Have the bug # for it?

  and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12
  isn't exactly the best plan for this.
 
 and almost certainly wont happen, not to mention i'm pretty sure both
 1.11.x and 1.12.x are broken in the same regard

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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:30:56AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:13 +, Roy Marples wrote:
  On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12:49, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
   On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
(1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
for the 1.11.x branch ...
  
   Does this preclude any bug fixes going into 1.11 that affect the
   release?  I have at least two that I would love to get resolved before
   2006.0's release, and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12
   isn't exactly the best plan for this.
  
  Got bug numbers?
 
 57229

not an issue with baselayout, lvm code has been moved to the lvm ebuild

 99682

that bug is still waiting for feedback from you releng peeps :P
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 14:45 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:30:56AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
  On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 13:13 +, Roy Marples wrote:
   On Wednesday 21 December 2005 12:49, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 14:36 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
 (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
 it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
 bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real 
 features
 for the 1.11.x branch ...
   
Does this preclude any bug fixes going into 1.11 that affect the
release?  I have at least two that I would love to get resolved before
2006.0's release, and waiting for the eventual stabilization of 1.12
isn't exactly the best plan for this.
   
   Got bug numbers?
  
  57229
 
 not an issue with baselayout, lvm code has been moved to the lvm ebuild

OK.

  99682
 
 that bug is still waiting for feedback from you releng peeps :P

Ehh... what is needed from us?  I don't see anything asking us for more
information (and have commented as such on the bug).

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[gentoo-dev] Portage 2.0.53 now stable on x86

2005-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
I just marked 2.0.53 stable on x86. See
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108082 for details. You can check
the various dependencies of this bug for the bug fixes that went into
this release. This release includes at least one new program.

pena jamvm # emaint --help
usage: emaint [options] all | world

Currently emaint can only check and fix problems with one's world file.
Future versions will integrate other portage check-and-fix tools and
provide a single interface to system health checks.

options:
  -h, --help   show this help message and exit
  -c, --check  check for problems
  -f, --fixattempt to fix problems

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.14 stabilization

2005-12-21 Thread Paul Varner

 since we have baselayout-1.12.x in ~arch, the new stable candidate
 (1.11.14) isnt getting much air time ... can people try upgrading to
 it and post any feedback they have with it ?  it should mostly be a
 bugfix release over 1.11.13 since we arent doing any more real features
 for the 1.11.x branch ...

Looking good here on a stable x86 system.  The only thing that I noted
is that =sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r3 will have to go stable at the same
time due to it being a dependency.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Jakub Moc wrote:

the virtual/ thingy broke the deptree again with virtual/libstdc++ (see Bug
116253), essentially the same issue like with virtual/x11. These virtuals
need to go straight stable if any of their RDEPEND atoms is stable for a
particular arch.


Shouldn't it be the reverse? Rather, they need to go stable if anything 
depending on them is stable.


IOW, it doesn't matter if an ~arch virtual depends on stable packages. 
It matters if stable packages depend on an ~arch virtual.


Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 21 December 2005 19:28, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 IOW, it doesn't matter if an ~arch virtual depends on stable packages.
 It matters if stable packages depend on an ~arch virtual.
So that's like any other package in the tree..

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Loeser
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hello here,
 
 the virtual/ thingy broke the deptree again with virtual/libstdc++ (see Bug
 116253), essentially the same issue like with virtual/x11. These virtuals
 need to go straight stable if any of their RDEPEND atoms is stable for a
 particular arch.
 
 Betelgeuse is working on a repoman check for this issue, meanwhile, if there
 are more virtuals planned, please bear this in mind. :)

It makes no sense to make a check to verify what seems to be broken
behaviour.  The virtuals should be like any other ebuild in the tree.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage 2.0.53 now stable on x86 and amd64

2005-12-21 Thread Luis Medinas
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 19:25 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
 I just marked 2.0.53 stable on x86. See
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108082 for details. You can check
 the various dependencies of this bug for the bug fixes that went into
 this release. This release includes at least one new program.
 
 pena jamvm # emaint --help
 usage: emaint [options] all | world
 
 Currently emaint can only check and fix problems with one's world file.
 Future versions will integrate other portage check-and-fix tools and
 provide a single interface to system health checks.
 
 options:
   -h, --help   show this help message and exit
   -c, --check  check for problems
   -f, --fixattempt to fix problems
 
 Regards,
 Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse)
 
Following this post... i marked portage 2.0.53 stable on amd64 too...
happy upgrade!
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[gentoo-dev] 2006 and ebuild headers

2005-12-21 Thread Petteri Räty
# Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: $

I remember last year the mirror system having problems when some people
went and changed tons of ebuild headers. What I don't remember is if we
set some kind of policy then, but best to put this issue on the table
well before New Year so that everyone will be aware of what to do when
the time comes.

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[gentoo-dev] Tcl/Tk correction

2005-12-21 Thread Vadim Konovalov
I've noticed wrong homepage specified for tclpython (shoud be
http://jfontain.free.fr/tclpython.htm )


gevad ~ # emerge -s tclpython
Searching...
[ Results for search key : tclpython ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  dev-tcltk/tclpython
  Latest version available: 3.1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 6 kB
  Homepage:http://jfontain.free.fr/tclperl.htm
  Description: a Python package for Tcl
  License: GPL-2


Also, I want Perl module for Tcl/Tk interconnection to be available
within as ebuild. Module is named Tcl::Tk, placed on CPAN, similar to
perl/Tk, small and easy.
I'll do all needed work myself.
Could you please advice whom to contact? Where is FAQ for me to read?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Tcl/Tk correction

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Loeser
Vadim Konovalov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I've noticed wrong homepage specified for tclpython (shoud be
 http://jfontain.free.fr/tclpython.htm )

Please file a bug on https://bugs.gentoo.org

 Also, I want Perl module for Tcl/Tk interconnection to be available
 within as ebuild. Module is named Tcl::Tk, placed on CPAN, similar to
 perl/Tk, small and easy.
 I'll do all needed work myself.
 Could you please advice whom to contact? Where is FAQ for me to read?

File a bug about this as well :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Tcl/Tk correction

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 11:36:43PM +0300, Vadim Konovalov wrote:
 I've noticed wrong homepage specified for tclpython (shoud be
 http://jfontain.free.fr/tclpython.htm )

use http://bugs.gentoo.org/

 Also, I want Perl module for Tcl/Tk interconnection to be available
 within as ebuild.

use http://bugs.gentoo.org/
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[gentoo-dev] tcltk splitting [again]

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
came someone please remind me why we havent split the tcltk USE flag
into tcl and tk ?  wanting tcl support on a server makes sense, and
doing something like 'tcltk? ( X? ( tk ) )' is just dumb
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Donnie Berkholz wrote:

I know some of you have done research on how gentoo-x86 converts over to
other systems besides CVS such as SVN, arch, etc. But I can't find the
info anywhere in my archives.

Could whoever's got it, post it?

I'm particularly interested in hearing about CVS, SVN, mercurial,
bazaar, darcs.


I've downloaded a copy of the gentoo-x86 repo and will run tests myself. 
Please advise me as to exactly which tests you would like to see, beyond 
whatever I feel like doing.


Thanks,
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[gentoo-dev] New Developer: Peter Volkov

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Doty
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Please take a moment to welcome our newest developer, pva.  Peter is
joining to help out with netmon.

In his own words, I was born in Moscow (it's in Russia). I graduated
physical department of Moscow State University. And my speciality is
physicist. Now I'm second year PHD student in A.M. Prokhorov General
Physics Institute Russian Academy of Sciences. But that is not the whole
truth.  :)  I'm learning in High Computer School also in Moscow State
University.

Well. I think no one be surprised if I say that gentoo is my favorite
distribution.  ;)  Why? Just ordinary two sentence story.  :)  I lived
some time with LFS and really enjoyed it. The only problem I found there
was the absence of  automation of package management. So when I found
gentoo it was exactly what I want! Great! Thank you all. I hope I could
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Peter Volkov

2005-12-21 Thread Renat Lumpau
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Time to start a Russian conspiracy! Dobro pozhalovat'.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk splitting [again]

2005-12-21 Thread George Shapovalov
Um, I cannot remind why we did not split, because I remember (unless I am 
hallucinating of course. That was like 2 years ago, or more..) that we 
actually had them split and then they were joined.. For whatever it is 
worth..
As for reasons, not really sure, did not check at the time (as I did not deal 
much with them). I guess in that general sweep of trying to make use flags 
manageable..

George

On Wednesday, 21. December 2005 21:47, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 came someone please remind me why we havent split the tcltk USE flag
 into tcl and tk ?  wanting tcl support on a server makes sense, and
 doing something like 'tcltk? ( X? ( tk ) )' is just dumb
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Re: [gentoo-dev] tcltk splitting [again]

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 11:24:10PM +0100, George Shapovalov wrote:
 Um, I cannot remind why we did not split, because I remember (unless I am 
 hallucinating of course. That was like 2 years ago, or more..) that we 
 actually had them split and then they were joined.. For whatever it is 
 worth..

i cant say i ever remember them being sep ... afaik, they've always
been one USE flag ... but viewcvs says that we had a tcl and a 
tcltk rather than a tcl and tk flag ...
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Peter Volkov

2005-12-21 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:28:03 -0600
Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 All-
 
 Please take a moment to welcome our newest developer, pva.  Peter is
 joining to help out with netmon.
 
 In his own words, I was born in Moscow (it's in Russia). I graduated
 physical department of Moscow State University. And my speciality is
 physicist. Now I'm second year PHD student in A.M. Prokhorov General
 Physics Institute Russian Academy of Sciences. But that is not the whole
 truth.  :)  I'm learning in High Computer School also in Moscow State
 University.
 
 Well. I think no one be surprised if I say that gentoo is my favorite
 distribution.  ;)  Why? Just ordinary two sentence story.  :)  I lived
 some time with LFS and really enjoyed it. The only problem I found there
 was the absence of  automation of package management. So when I found
 gentoo it was exactly what I want! Great! Thank you all. I hope I could
 help you a bit.  :)
 

Perhaps just a coincidence, but isn't this the same Peter Volkov who wrote the
Volkov Commander, which I loved and used daily back in my MS-DOS (gaming)
days?

Kind regards,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Loeser
Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hello here,
 
 the virtual/ thingy broke the deptree again with virtual/libstdc++ (see Bug
 116253), essentially the same issue like with virtual/x11. These virtuals
 need to go straight stable if any of their RDEPEND atoms is stable for a
 particular arch.

Just to let everyone know, this is not the case.  Treat it like a normal
ebuild and everything will be fine.  If your new real virtual is already
an existing virtual used by stable packages, it will of course need to go
stable, but if its brand new, just make sure nothing stable depends on it.

Bug #116253 was invalid due to the user's package.keywords.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 December 2005 02:55, Duncan wrote:
 What about doing with xml what was done with gtk, when gtk2 was
 deprecated?  IOW, where both are possible, default to one or the other,
 which ever one is merged, or choose one (preferably making it a
 Gentoo-wide default, for consistency) if both or neither are merged.

not really needed seeing as how very few (well pretty much no) packages offer 
both xml and xml2 support

ive started a bug here for those who wish to follow progress:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116346
-mike
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[gentoo-dev] Annoying X.Org tarball naming (and how to deal with it)

2005-12-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz

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I'd appreciate some ideas better than what I've come up with so far to
deal with the very strange X.Org release naming.

When modular tarballs are part of a full X.Org release (7.0, 7.1, etc),
then they are named PN-PV-XORG_RELEASE.tar.(gz|bz2) and S matches. When
modular tarballs are independently released outside a full X.Org
release, they are named the standard way -- PN-PV.tar.(gz|bz2), same for S.

Dealing with this all in an automated fashion in x-modular.eclass is
somewhat difficult, and here's what I've come up with:

A variable (XORG_PV), set by the ebuild, to tell _which_ release it's
part of when it is part of a full release. If it's set, that means (1)
it is part of a full release and (2) indicates which release it's part of.

What does this mean for the future? All modular X ebuilds that are part
of a full release will require XORG_PV to be set. All modular X ebuilds
that aren't part of a full release will not require anything new. I'm
doing it this way because I expect there to be more packages that aren't
part of a full release than ones that are.

Please give me your input on this.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-21 Thread Bret Towe
On 12/21/05, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
  I know some of you have done research on how gentoo-x86 converts over to
  other systems besides CVS such as SVN, arch, etc. But I can't find the
  info anywhere in my archives.
 
  Could whoever's got it, post it?
 
  I'm particularly interested in hearing about CVS, SVN, mercurial,
  bazaar, darcs.

 I've downloaded a copy of the gentoo-x86 repo and will run tests myself.
 Please advise me as to exactly which tests you would like to see, beyond
 whatever I feel like doing.

might i also suggest testing out git along with the above listed?
since i dont know git well enuf or what exactly are requirements of
a gentoo dev ill just point to some documents
tutorial can be found here:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/tutorial.html
and documention here:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-21 Thread Ryan Phillips
* Bret Towe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-12-21 23:16]:
 On 12/21/05, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Donnie Berkholz wrote:
   I know some of you have done research on how gentoo-x86 converts over to
   other systems besides CVS such as SVN, arch, etc. But I can't find the
   info anywhere in my archives.
  
   Could whoever's got it, post it?
  
   I'm particularly interested in hearing about CVS, SVN, mercurial,
   bazaar, darcs.
 
  I've downloaded a copy of the gentoo-x86 repo and will run tests myself.
  Please advise me as to exactly which tests you would like to see, beyond
  whatever I feel like doing.
 
 might i also suggest testing out git along with the above listed?
 since i dont know git well enuf or what exactly are requirements of
 a gentoo dev ill just point to some documents
 tutorial can be found here:
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/tutorial.html
 and documention here:
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/

I know that some people have big reservations on distributed SCMs, but
why not switch to a distributed format, and cherry pick from other
developer's (and users) repositories?

Git allows for pushing to a centralized server, so it still 'works' in
a similar sense of committing changes to CVS.

cg-branch-add gentoo-main git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
cg-push gentoo-main

-Ryan


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