[gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=qa-test

2009-10-06 Thread Ryan Hill
Some packages, like dbus[1], have testing features that, while useful for
developers and arch-testers, aren't something that should be foisted on
users.  Dbus' case is extreme, as it builds-in functions that are useful for
unit testing, but result in an insecure and unstable package (I just "fixed" a
bunch of testsuite failures i've been seeing in dbus-using packages by
disabling USE=test). Other packages have testsuites that take an unreasonable
amount of time to build/run (db, ppl, boost, that faad/faac one that takes
six hours), are pretty much guaranteed to fail (gcc, binutils), have strange
dependency quirks (can't run the tests unless the package is already
installed, create circular dependencies), or a dozen other situations I can't
think of right now.

I'd like to propose a new USE flag, qa-test or a better name, to handle these
cases in a consistent way.  This would give us a way to differentiate between
tests that everyone should run and tests that only devs and arch-testers
would be interested in, making enabling FEATURES=test by default in a future
EAPI a little more palatable.Use of this flag would be up to the
maintainer, of course.


[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/287722

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Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GNOME 2.26 upgrade

2009-10-06 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2009-10-07 at 06:24 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Rémi Cardona  wrote:
> > "not handle the desktop." => "not handle the desktop's background image"
> >
> 
> I thought it handled the icons on the desktop as well?

yeah, we cleared that on IRC and the e-mail was "ack either way", but
s/desktop/desktop icons might be more clear.

Anyhow, how to I get eselect news or news-tng to actually see these news
items out of a svn checkout when my PORTDIR is from CVS, not rsync?
strace'ing eselect news{,-tng} suggests they stat metadata/cache, but
doesn't even try to look for a metadata/news with my setup, so I can't
verify on my end everything is working right to proceed with this..


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Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GNOME 2.26 upgrade

2009-10-06 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Rémi Cardona  wrote:
> "not handle the desktop." => "not handle the desktop's background image"
>

I thought it handled the icons on the desktop as well?


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GNOME+Mozilla Team, Gentoo



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Add RUBY_TARGETS to USE_EXPAND

2009-10-06 Thread Alex Legler
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:19:25 +0200, Christian Faulhammer
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Alex Legler :
> > RUBY_TARGETS contains a list of ruby implementations and versions to
> > install a package for, like this:
> 
>  Python has to do the same for 2.x and 3 versions...wouldn't it be
> nice to have the same solution for both languages?
> 

It might be nice, /eventually/.
As far as I can see, the proposed Python solution is just a concept,
where we already have near-beta eclasses that we *really* want to deploy
this year as they block the unmasking of Ruby 1.9.
Additionally, there are some really nasty things about the current
ruby.eclass (prepall override) and incompatibilities with RubyGems that
should be resolved rather sooner than later.

> V-Li
> 

A3-Li


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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Add RUBY_TARGETS to USE_EXPAND

2009-10-06 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Alex Legler :
> RUBY_TARGETS contains a list of ruby implementations and versions to
> install a package for, like this:

 Python has to do the same for 2.x and 3 versions...wouldn't it be nice
to have the same solution for both languages?

V-Li

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in xfce-base/xfconf: ChangeLog xfconf-4.6.1.ebuild

2009-10-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
David Leverton wrote:
> On Monday 05 October 2009 23:20:10 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> You probably will see some remarks about "commit it, and let
>> everyone else deal with the mess for years to come" being the
>> long-established Gentoo tradition, however.
> 
> Not to mention "accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a troll".

Full stop. If you don't have anything productive to add, please stay quiet.




Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in xfce-base/xfconf: ChangeLog xfconf-4.6.1.ebuild

2009-10-06 Thread David Leverton
On Monday 05 October 2009 23:20:10 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> You probably will see some remarks about "commit it, and let
> everyone else deal with the mess for years to come" being the
> long-established Gentoo tradition, however.

Not to mention "accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a troll".



[gentoo-dev] RFC: Add RUBY_TARGETS to USE_EXPAND

2009-10-06 Thread Alex Legler
Hey,

I would like to propose the addition of a new USE_EXPAND variable.

The Ruby team is currently working on a new version of ruby.eclass with
proper support for packages installed for multiple versions of ruby.

RUBY_TARGETS contains a list of ruby implementations and versions to
install a package for, like this:

[ebuild U ] dev-ruby/actionpack-2.3.2-r1 [2.3.2] USE="-doc -test%"
RUBY_TARGETS="ruby18* ruby19* -jruby%" 746 kB [0=>1]

In that example, actionpack would install for Ruby 1.8 and 1.9. USE
dependencies are then used to ensure all dependencies are built
at least for 1.8 and 1.9 as well.

Any comments or questions?

Thanks, Alex


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2009-10-06 Thread Andrew D Kirch
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Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GNOME 2.26 upgrade

2009-10-06 Thread Rémi Cardona

Le 06/10/2009 13:02, Mart Raudsepp a écrit :

On T, 2009-10-06 at 02:11 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:

Hello,

See attached news item for consideration.
Suggestions on how to improve it, including the text section, very
welcome.


Attached is a tweaked version with wording fixes from dabbott and author
as me instead of team, as I understood to be more appropriate.

I will probably wait for further reviews for a couple hours and then
commit this and proceed with CCing arch teams for the stabilization
work.



"not handle the desktop." => "not handle the desktop's background image"

But even without this change

Reviewed-by: Rémi Cardona 

Cheers



Re: [gentoo-dev] News Item: GNOME 2.26 upgrade

2009-10-06 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On T, 2009-10-06 at 02:11 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> See attached news item for consideration.
> Suggestions on how to improve it, including the text section, very
> welcome.

Attached is a tweaked version with wording fixes from dabbott and author
as me instead of team, as I understood to be more appropriate.

I will probably wait for further reviews for a couple hours and then
commit this and proceed with CCing arch teams for the stabilization
work.

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Gentoo Developer
Mail: l...@gentoo.org
Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio
Title: Upgrade to GNOME 2.26
Author: Mart Raudsepp 
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2009-10-06
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: http://gnome.gentoo.org/howtos/gnome-2.26-upgrade.xml



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[gentoo-dev] About my confusing ~sparc-fbsd mail.

2009-10-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
Things have changed a bit, thanks to Monkeh I've got a access to a one.
So does aballier.

So we are trying to give it a bit of life support. I'm working on
getting python rekeyworded today.

Hold off the keyword dropping for now.

Thanks, Samuli