Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
good faith effort to maintain the privacy of your personal information. " -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpgsH7O1ejCa.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
uck on your future endeavors. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgphzccPOD43x.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would > each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the > channel name, and that they are the contact for any problems/troubles. #gentoo-desktop #gentoo-cluster #gentoo-pr #gentoo-council -- Thanks, Donnie Donn

Re: [gentoo-dev] X11 on Lemote Fulong (Loongson 2E) -- 'lm2e' local USE flag RFC

2008-08-02 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:43 Sat 02 Aug , Stuart Longland wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 13:23 Thu 31 Jul , Stuart Longland wrote: > >>An alternative however, I'd like to propose is the addition of a 'lm2e' > >> local USE flag to the affected ebuilds &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! Jokey pointed out that in fact the council meeting is August 14. -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-07-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:17 Thu 31 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev > list to see. I know at least one person has already submitted an agenda item. Pleas

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-07-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
st be notified at least 14 days before the meeting itself. For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgp16OwOswiB6.pgp Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] X11 on Lemote Fulong (Loongson 2E) -- 'lm2e' local USE flag RFC

2008-07-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
lay and it's huge. It's clearly GPL-licensed, presumably from the GATOS project, and that makes it unacceptable for upstream. I'm presuming it is straight from the GATOS folks and thus is just adding TV-out. The libdrm and xorg-server patches look more reasonable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Donnie Berkholz
s policy. Why are you asking us? He's the QA lead, you should be talking with the QA team about this. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgp4SH3OZY8nf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for July 24

2008-07-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:26 Mon 21 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Here's the list of ongoing items from 2 weeks ago: > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_bb3a3a0c1b0acb771a263294a67b722e.xml > > Here's the council summary from 2 weeks ago: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/coun

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for July 24

2008-07-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:13 Mon 21 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev > list to see. Here's the list of ongoing items from 2 weeks ago: http://archive

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for July 24

2008-07-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
e as well. We need to set up a new cron job for this.) -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpgXYZJVw6E3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select

2008-07-19 Thread Donnie Berkholz
problem, this is something we need to figure out a better fix for. Perhaps we could abuse the 'deprecated' file in profiles with this type of message. Developers are basically our core audience, and we need to make things work well for them. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpng375BJQTL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ed livecd, and the compiler > itself with a fetch restriction allows the user to legally register > for their free non-commercial license. OK, so we can't sell icc-compiled software in our Gentoo store, so the releases would always remain built with gcc. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpyuC3bLpdh5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] ICC Profile

2008-07-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
ort" FFLAGS="-openmp -parallel -ipo -xO -O2 -no-prec-div" FCFLAGS="${FFLAGS}" export CC CXX FC F77 FFLAGS FCFLAGS Is what you're proposing here an improvement over something like the above setup? If so, could you explain how? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpRKtYUHvEJk.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 20:25 Tue 15 Jul , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:23:08 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could someone explain why manually doing work is better than > > automatically detecting the deps? This sounds like an argument > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: auto-detection of unpack dependencies

2008-07-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
unds like an argument against automation, and I'm not following it. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpAvCXWU63o1.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/mako: ChangeLog mako-0.1.10-r1.ebuild mako-0.1.10.ebuild

2008-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
> (Portage version: 2.2_rc1/cvs/Linux 2.6.24-gentoo-r8 i686) Could someone please explain why this requires a revision bump? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpg3Q5cvxRCi.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/hylafax: ChangeLog hylafax-4.4.4.ebuild

2008-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
einfo "Adding env.d entry for Hylafax" > doenvd 99${P} doenvd doesn't die on failure. > einfo "Adding init.d entry for Hylafax" > newinitd "${FILESDIR}"/${PN}-4.2 ${PN} Neither does newinitd. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgpLx32MeL6SE.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-mobilephone/galicesms: ChangeLog galicesms-1.62.ebuild

2008-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
p://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-mobilephone/galicesms/galicesms-1.62.ebuild?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain > src_install() { > dobin "${PN}" > } dobin doesn't die on failure. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog:

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sci-mathematics/axiom: ChangeLog axiom-200805.ebuild

2008-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
bout parallel builds? > src_install() { > make DESTDIR="${D}"/opt/axiom > COMMAND="${D}"/opt/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/axiom install \ > || die 'Failed to install Axiom!' Use emake, please. > > mv "${D}"/opt/axiom/m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2008-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Here are quick updates on the topics we didn't discuss in detail during the council meeting. On 01:40 Wed 09 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Appeals of spb, rbrown, & philantrop We are actively discussing the appeals and will get decisions out ASAP. > Meeting frequency &

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 July 2008

2008-07-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all, Here is the summary from Thursday's council meeting. The complete log will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com Quick summary = GLEP 54: There

Re: [gentoo-dev] new eclass and portage category: octave-forge.eclass and dev-octave

2008-07-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
k glance), perhaps a script more like g-cpan or g-pypi would be merited instead of large numbers of trivial ebuilds? -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgp09EI11seof.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2008-07-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 01:40 Wed 09 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 05:30 Tue 01 Jul , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even > > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole > > Gentoo dev list to see. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
c template ebuilds of different packages. This would most likely be a problem when one is added and another is removed in the same commit, although that's the wrong workflow. I'm not sure whether it would also be a problem with multiple commits. I suppose you'd see the problem wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2008-07-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
s no real debate about that (the only question was where), and Cardoe said this morning that he was just going to commit it. If people had any problems, they would've posted them to the thread. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2008-07-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
's unclear, or you have another suggestion. As before, since we have an agenda in advance we won't be holding an open floor. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com People who need to take action == No

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:14 Tue 08 Jul , Ryan Hill wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:37 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't think it's worth losing track of the CVS history just so we > > can have something in a different place that ulti

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 04:03 Tue 08 Jul , Andrey Grozin wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> I actually object to having crap in dev-python, because things should be >> categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented >> in. 90% of the tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:51 Mon 07 Jul , Joe Peterson wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > I actually object to having crap in dev-python, because things should be > > categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented > > in. 90% of the time you don't care a

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-07 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-python, because things should be categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented in. 90% of the time you don't care about the language. But category moves are pretty much pointless, so I don't normally bring it up. -- Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 - RESULTS

2008-07-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:00 Sat 05 Jul , Łukasz Damentko wrote: > Gentoo Council for term 2008/2009 will be: > > Donnie Berkholz (dberkholz) > Mark Loeser (Halcy0n) > Diego Petteno (Flameeyes) > Petteri Raty (Betelgeuse) > Luca Barbato (lu_zero) > Markus Ullmann (Jokey) > Tobias Sch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 - RESULTS

2008-07-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:00 Sat 05 Jul , Łukasz Damentko wrote: > Gentoo Council for term 2008/2009 will be: > > Donnie Berkholz (dberkholz) > Mark Loeser (Halcy0n) > Diego Petteno (Flameeyes) > Petteri Raty (Betelgeuse) > Luca Barbato (lu_zero) > Markus Ullmann (Jokey) > Tobias Sc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-07-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:33 Thu 05 Jun , Roy Bamford wrote: > I don't want to nominate anyone who hasn't been nominated already. > I would like to address all the candidates who have or will accept > council nominations. I just got to this because I was on vacation and I've been busy getting work done since I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs back to bug-wranglers@

2008-06-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 22:04 Mon 30 Jun , Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > PS: I'd like to remind users reading here that assigning bugs directly > is _bad_ if you didn't perform the above checks. It is _not_ ok to > assign bugs just because you _think_ the package is owned by ${HERD}. The standard user privileges

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-06-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:15 Sun 29 Jun , Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 29-06-2008 07:29:57 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: > > > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti: > > > > I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the > > > > following f

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 12 June 2008

2008-06-13 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all, Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly. Thanks, Donnie Quick summary = Overall, the meeting went really well! Things that helped were additional preparation notes in the agenda, a requ

Re: [gentoo-council] Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:03 Thu 12 Jun , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:14:21 -0400 > Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 12 June 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > On 04:11 Wed 11 Jun , Brian Harring wrote: > > > > Reiterating the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP56] USE flag descriptions in metadata

2008-06-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:11 Fri 06 Jun , Marius Mauch wrote: > It's not about "forcing" anyone to do something but giving people enough > information on how to implement it _if they choose to do so_. With the > current GLEP they'd have to make arbitrary decisions if e.g. a flag is > defined in both use.local.desc

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 04:11 Wed 11 Jun , Brian Harring wrote: > Reiterating the early request, I'd like the council to please discuss > the current status of PMS, People actually working on the PMS would be better-placed to discuss its current status, if by that you mean progress toward an approved spec. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] A unit-testing prototype

2008-06-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:47 Mon 26 May , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > A while back, vapier added some tests for the toolchain-funcs eclass to > /usr/portage/eclass/tests/. I really like the idea, and I recently > discovered an xUnit-style unit-testing framework for shell scripts > called ShUnit2. I pl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:58 Wed 11 Jun , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Carefully note the Preparation sections. If they aren't completed, we > will postpone the topic to the -council mailing list or the next meeting > instead of waste time during the meeting doing things that should've &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]

2008-06-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 03:06 Wed 11 Jun , Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council > meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the > channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). Here's the proposed agenda. I intend to get

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 00:11 Wed 11 Jun , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > I would like the portage devs to comment upon which of the following features > they think could easily be implemented before portage 2.2 goes stable. These ones meet the criteria of "I know people are working around them because they don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55

2008-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 05:20 Tue 10 Jun , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Yet GLEP 55 is the only solution that's been proposed that solves the > requirements. And your entire argument boils down to "file extension > changes don't look pretty", for some arbitrary value of pretty that > also precludes index.html.en and in

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 11:12 Sun 08 Jun , Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > Hello, > > looks like every nominee wants the council to be more technical so I > have a few technical questions for you: > > 1. GLEP54 > 2. GLEP55 I don't have any particular objections to these, besides the vague aesthetic one of having EAP

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:41 Sun 08 Jun , Alex Howells wrote: > I would like to see Council move towards a more compressed meeting > format -- people presenting arguments need to work out their stuff > before bringing it up in the meeting, and to allow for quick > turn-around of decisions I'd suggest fortnightly m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: glibc-2.8 / gcc-4.3 build failures

2008-06-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:03 Mon 09 Jun , Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > Robert Buchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > # [tracker] GCC 4.3 porting > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198121 > > or https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=gcc-4.3 > > > > > # [TRACKER] ebuilds failing to build agai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: lastrite: dev-cpp/libherdstat and app-portage/herdstat

2008-06-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:26 Sun 08 Jun , Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > "Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The tree's small enough that grep -r gives enough performance. > > Even better > > grep */*/metadata.xml > > the tree is not big enough that it exceeds the maximum argu

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation <-> Council was -> Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:55 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 14:13 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 15:53 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about.shtml > > > > > > "The Fre

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Foundation <-> Council was -> Nominations for council

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:53 Fri 06 Jun , William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about.shtml > > "The FreeBSD Foundation is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated > to supporting the FreeBSD Project." > > It's clear the that BSD Foundation is directly tied to the BSD project. > I

Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 13:32 Fri 06 Jun , Ferris McCormick wrote: > On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 01:37 +, Ferris McCormick wrote: > And the bit about hearing appeals assumes that devrel initiated the > disciplinary action being appealed. I'd make it explicit that Council > is not itself a disciplinary body --- resol

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-06 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:35 Thu 05 Jun , Josh Saddler wrote: > Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council > members (again): > dberkholz Yes. I'd like to continue trying to make the council more effective. Thanks, Donnie -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastriting dev-libs/libffi (replaced by USE libffi in gcc itself)

2008-06-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:52 Thu 05 Jun , Samuli Suominen wrote: > # Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (05 Jun 2008) > # Masked for removal in ~30 days by treecleaners. > # Replaced by USE libffi in sys-devel/gcc. Bug 163724. > dev-libs/libffi > dev-lang/squeak > x11-libs/gtk-server The latest version of g-wrap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 12:07 Tue 03 Jun , Łukasz Damentko wrote: > Nominations aren't open yet. They will be soon (rather days than > weeks). But not yet. I have no idea why you guys rushed it but you > will have nominate again after we open if for real. That sounds like pointless bureaucracy ... is there any rea

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-05-31 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 01:09 Sat 31 May , Mike Frysinger wrote: I'd like to advocate for interested people to pick up a few of these. > net-misc/ntp It would be good if someone took this, because a ton of people use it. > net-misc/dropbear > sys-libs/uclibc I'd really like for someone to pick these up, since

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 22:53 Fri 30 May , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2008 00:47:44 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The story that matters here is, that a C++ corner case that does not > > work on 0.01% of packages with --as-needed and breaks on non-ELF > > platforms, should not ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 01:13 Thu 29 May , Marius Mauch wrote: > One concern raised by some people is that it might cause old libraries > with security issues to stay on the system for eternity even though > the package was upgraded, and eventually be preferred by new builds. > I can't rule this out completely but

[gentoo-dev] A unit-testing prototype

2008-05-26 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi everyone, A while back, vapier added some tests for the toolchain-funcs eclass to /usr/portage/eclass/tests/. I really like the idea, and I recently discovered an xUnit-style unit-testing framework for shell scripts called ShUnit2. I played with it a little and made a couple of prototypes.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting [WAS: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008]

2008-05-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:33 Thu 08 May , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Enforced retirement: After 2.5 hours on the previous topics, people had > to go to sleep and jokey's computer broke. Instead of waiting till the > next regular meeting, because of its urgency, we scheduled a special > session

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bug wrangling

2008-05-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 08:03 Tue 13 May , Rémi Cardona wrote: > We all know which devs/herds bugs should be assigned to, we all know most > bugs aren't complete if emerge --info is not provided, that sort of things. > But Real Bug Masters (tm) know all the dupes, know all the current problems > in our various t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008

2008-05-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 10:54 Sat 10 May , Duncan wrote: > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Thu, 08 May 2008 16:33:28 -0700: > > > Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will > > show up at http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-crypt/kstart License questionable

2008-05-09 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:10 Fri 09 May , Michael Hammer wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to add kstart to the tree and have a question to the license > of the package. It's some kind of combination of the MIT License with > a few minor licenses. Should I add the whole license file to the tree? > Here is the link: > >

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008

2008-05-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all, Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly. Thanks, Donnie Quick summary = Active-developer document: We reviewed it and made some suggestions for improving both the document and the onlin

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 03:04 Wed 07 May , Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council > meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the > channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). > > If you're supposed to show up, please s

Re: OT: [gentoo-dev] Nazi symbols on Gentoo (and other offending content)

2008-04-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:27 Mon 28 Apr , Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 27 April 2008, Santiago M. Mola wrote: > > Anyway, next time I'll use @-project, and let's see if someone > > actually cares about that mailing list. > > unfortunately (fortunately?), that's the way the Gentoo community wants it. > gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 06:33 Sat 19 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:27:21 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My interpretation is pkg_* counts as runtime (I can imagine a package > > wanting to run itself at this point), so packages in RDEPEND

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 05:54 Sat 19 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:45:13 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd go with RDEPEND only. Any other interpretation results in > > installing build-time-only packages along with a binpkg, which &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 05:31 Sat 19 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I'm rewording the PMS sections on dependencies to avoid permitting > overly lax circular dependency resolution. Which of these wordings is > accurate, given that usable means "has its RDEPENDs installed and > usable"? > > 1. During pkg_preinst and

Re: [gentoo-dev] PostgreSQL Status

2008-04-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 09:55 Wed 16 Apr , Tiziano Müller wrote: > What do the new ebuilds offer: > a) A split into dev-db/postgresql-{base,server,docs}. Now, I know that > splitting up packages isn't the Gentoo way. I know we could have done it > using USE flags but this approach gives more flexibility due to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 06:24 Wed 16 Apr , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > What all are blocks used for? > > a) Marking that two unrelated packages are mutually incompatible at > runtime because they happen to collide, for example on a commonly named > executable. > > b) Marking that two related implementations are mutu

[gentoo-dev] Council meeting summary for 10 April 2008

2008-04-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all, Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly. Thanks, Donnie Quick summary = GLEP 46 (Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml): Approved Slacker arches: Vapier's proposal is going out tonight.

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 03:03 Wed 09 Apr , Mike Frysinger wrote: > This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council > meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the > channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). > > If you're supposed to show up, please s

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc-4.2 / gcc-4.3 plans

2008-04-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:57 Thu 10 Apr , Mike Frysinger wrote: > gcc-4.3 seems to be standing up well. since the major gcc-ebuild-specific > issues seem to be resolved now, i'll probably do a sweep of bugs to see if > there's any patches i'm missing (if you guys know of a bug that should be > addressed specif

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2008-04-03 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 09:53 Thu 03 Apr , Thomas Anderson wrote: > On 11:35 Thu 03 Apr , Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > > Petteri R??ty wrote: > >>> Recalling previous discussions about work on gentoo and some of the > >>> existing roles, what will you do to AT folks, release members or QA > >>> members

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-libs/xyssl: xyssl-0.9.ebuild

2008-03-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:35 Sat 29 Mar , Lars Weiler (pylon) wrote: > Revision ChangesPath > 1.1 net-libs/xyssl/xyssl-0.9.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-libs/xyssl/xyssl-0.9.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-dns/openresolv: ChangeLog openresolv-1.5.ebuild

2008-03-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:09 Sat 29 Mar , Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote: > 1.1 net-dns/openresolv/openresolv-1.5.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-dns/openresolv/openresolv-1.5.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gento

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-editors/leafpad: ChangeLog leafpad-0.8.14.ebuild

2008-03-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:37 Sat 29 Mar , Saleem Abdulrasool (compnerd) wrote: > 1.1 app-editors/leafpad/leafpad-0.8.14.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-editors/leafpad/leafpad-0.8.14.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/iproute2: ChangeLog iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild

2008-03-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:26 Sat 29 Mar , Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote: > 1.1 sys-apps/iproute2/iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/iproute2/iproute2-2.6.24.20080108.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.or

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-video/vdr2jpeg: ChangeLog vdr2jpeg-0.0.12.ebuild vdr2jpeg-0.1.0.ebuild vdr2jpeg-0.0.10-r1.ebuild vdr2jpeg-0.0.10.ebuild vdr2jpeg-0.0.11.ebu

2008-03-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:35 Sat 29 Mar , Joerg Bornkessel (hd_brummy) wrote: > 1.1 media-video/vdr2jpeg/vdr2jpeg-0.1.0.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-video/vdr2jpeg/vdr2jpeg-0.1.0.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-devel/gdb: ChangeLog gdb-6.8.ebuild

2008-03-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:02 Sat 29 Mar , Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote: > 1.1 sys-devel/gdb/gdb-6.8.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-devel/gdb/gdb-6.8.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-devel/gdb/gdb-

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-ruby/rubygems: ChangeLog rubygems-1.1.0-r0.ebuild

2008-03-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:16 Sat 29 Mar , Richard Brown (rbrown) wrote: > 1.1 dev-ruby/rubygems/rubygems-1.1.0-r0.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-ruby/rubygems/rubygems-1.1.0-r0.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/ge

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sci-geosciences/grass: grass-6.2.1.ebuild ChangeLog grass-5.4.0.ebuild grass-6.0.1.ebuild grass-6.2.0-r1.ebuild grass-6.2.1-r1.ebuild

2008-03-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:31 Sat 22 Mar , Steve Arnold (nerdboy) wrote: > 1.1 sci-geosciences/grass/grass-6.2.1-r1.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sci-geosciences/grass/grass-6.2.1-r1.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/jabberd2: ChangeLog jabberd2-2.1.23.ebuild

2008-03-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 10:36 Tue 18 Mar , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 11:56 Tue 18 Mar , Wolfram Schlich (wschlich) wrote: > > 1.1 net-im/jabberd2/jabberd2-2.1.23.ebuild > > > > file : > > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-im/jabberd2/jabberd2

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/jabberd2: ChangeLog jabberd2-2.1.23.ebuild

2008-03-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 11:56 Tue 18 Mar , Wolfram Schlich (wschlich) wrote: > 1.1 net-im/jabberd2/jabberd2-2.1.23.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-im/jabberd2/jabberd2-2.1.23.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-video/qdvdauthor: ChangeLog qdvdauthor-1.0.0.ebuild

2008-03-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 22:31 Sun 16 Mar , Stefan Briesenick (sbriesen) wrote: > 1.1 media-video/qdvdauthor/qdvdauthor-1.0.0.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-video/qdvdauthor/qdvdauthor-1.0.0.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] net-libs/xulrunner-1.9 slotting or not?

2008-03-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:12 Sat 15 Mar , Raúl Porcel wrote: > That's what i would like to hear opinions about. Should we slot it, or > should we not slot it and wait until all the apps are fixed? Favoring upstream's approach seems to better fit the Gentoo way. If upstream doesn't intend it to be slotted, neith

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-power/nut: ChangeLog nut-2.2.1.ebuild

2008-03-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 06:03 Sun 09 Mar , Rajiv Aaron Manglani (rajiv) wrote: > 1.1 sys-power/nut/nut-2.2.1.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-power/nut/nut-2.2.1.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-power

[gentoo-dev] Council summary for 13 March 2008

2008-03-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Hi all, Here is the summary from today's council meeting. The complete log will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly. Thanks, Donnie Roll call = (here, proxy [by whom] or slacker?) amnehere betelgeuse here dberkholz slacker [39 minutes late] flameeyes h

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-cluster/torque: ChangeLog torque-2.3.0.ebuild

2008-03-12 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:55 Wed 12 Mar , Justin Bronder (jsbronder) wrote: > 1.1 sys-cluster/torque/torque-2.3.0.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-cluster/torque/torque-2.3.0.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QT] Dictionary app

2008-03-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:00 Mon 10 Mar , Ale wrote: > Hi! I am looking for a Dictionary (English <=> Spanish) where i can find > word's and word's definitions in both language. They have to be "local" i > don't have internet access :( This belongs on the gentoo-user list because it's unrelated to development.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 22:41 Wed 05 Mar , Anant Narayanan wrote: > If it's not too late for this month's meeting, I'd like to discuss the > possibility of including a new "post" in our developer base - the package > maintainer. ... > I'd really like for us to think through this proposal - I strongly believe >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/asterisk-addons: ChangeLog asterisk-addons-1.2.8.ebuild asterisk-addons-1.2.5-r1.ebuild asterisk-addons-1.2.4.ebuild asterisk-addons-1.2

2008-02-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 04:07 Thu 21 Feb , Rajiv Aaron Manglani (rajiv) wrote: > 1.1 net-misc/asterisk-addons/asterisk-addons-1.2.8.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-misc/asterisk-addons/asterisk-addons-1.2.8.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sour

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:37 Mon 18 Feb , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:20:52 -0800 > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This seems like something ewarn should do on its own. > > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/portage/main/trunk/bin/isolated-func

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 18:20 Mon 18 Feb , Sven Wegener (swegener) wrote: > swegener08/02/18 18:20:47 > > Modified: flag-o-matic.eclass > Log: > redirect the ewarn message to stderr > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.122eclass/flag-o-matic.eclass > > file : > http://sources.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-analyzer/cacti: ChangeLog metadata.xml cacti-0.8.7a-r2.ebuild cacti-0.8.6j-r8.ebuild cacti-0.8.7b.ebuild cacti-0.8.7a-r1.ebuild cacti-0.8

2008-02-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:25 Sat 16 Feb , Peter Volkov wrote: > В Чтв, 14/02/2008 в 23:19 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет: > > > use bundled-adodb || phpUseFlags="${phpUseFlags} sockets" > > > > Why is bundling even an option? We should always force external packages > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 23:39 Fri 15 Feb , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of > subversion.eclass > in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to > the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo-x86 soon. Since the > chan

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-text/ptex: ptex-3.1.10_p20071214.ebuild ptex-3.1.10_p20080107.ebuild ptex-3.1.10_p20071203.ebuild ChangeLog ptex-3.1.5-r1.ebuild ptex-3.1.10_

2008-02-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 16:05 Thu 14 Feb , Matsuu Takuto (matsuu) wrote: > 1.1 app-text/ptex/ptex-3.1.10_p20080128.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-text/ptex/ptex-3.1.10_p20080128.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/ge

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-db/hsqldb: ChangeLog hsqldb-1.8.0.9-r1.ebuild

2008-02-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 02:48 Thu 14 Feb , William Thomson (wltjr) wrote: > 1.1 dev-db/hsqldb/hsqldb-1.8.0.9-r1.ebuild > > file : > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-db/hsqldb/hsqldb-1.8.0.9-r1.ebuild?rev=1.1&view=markup > plain: > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x8

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