Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/updates: 4Q-2007

2007-11-06 Thread Doug Klima
Mark Loeser wrote: > "Hanno Boeck (hanno)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> hanno 07/11/06 01:01:35 >> >> Modified: 4Q-2007 >> Log: >> move beryl packages to their corresponding compiz fusion packages >> >> Revision ChangesPath >> 1.10 profiles/updates/

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] packages2 testing

2007-11-09 Thread Doug Klima
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 07:52:49PM +0100, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > >> Isn't there supposed to be a search box too? >> > Does anybody actually read the FAQ? > > - Short packages2 TODO list > - "Search": match a given string against: a substring in pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Klima
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Hey all, > > I've been wanting a GUI for eselect lately, so tonight I hacked up the > start of one called eselect_zenity [1]. It only works for the most > trivial modules so far -- it has to parse eselect output, so special > parsers need to be written for each type. ese

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-13 Thread Doug Klima
Markus Ullmann wrote: > Doug Klima schrieb: > >> While I haven't had much time to work on the bits, Gentopia does contain >> PolicyKit (though the 0.7 snapshots that appear do have some issues and >> you should stick to the 0.6 series). It's hopefully going t

Re: Reminder: Set your Reply-To (was Re: [gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!)

2007-11-15 Thread Doug Klima
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 13:22 -0700, Joe Peterson wrote: > >> (Sorry for the previous reply to announce..) >> > > Let me take this opportunity to remind people to set a reply-to when > sending anything to gentoo-dev-announce so people replying will reply to > the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-27 Thread Doug Klima
gt; > Discuss. > > Thanks, > Donnie > I agree that documentation should be provided before anything is committed. I'd also like to note that documentation was provided with the USE flag descriptions as well as an example metadata.xml with all the new features being used w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-29 Thread Doug Klima
Alec Warner wrote: > On 11/28/07, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 19:10 Tue 27 Nov , Alec Warner wrote: >> >>> No, because this is not a realistic requirement, it's an ideal case. >>> People will just commit changes without documentation anyway. >>> >> Here's m

Re: [gentoo-dev] X drivers up for grabs

2007-12-05 Thread Doug Klima
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 07:20 Tue 04 Dec , Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > >> On Tuesday 04 of December 2007 02:29:20 Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> >>> evdev input driver >>> >> I can take it unless someone else wants it more :) >> > > It's yours. I'll start reassigning bugs ov

Re: [gentoo-dev] X drivers up for grabs

2007-12-06 Thread Doug Klima
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: >> (Nelson impression...) haha, peper! >> >> Start checkin out Ubuntu... compnerd says they apply 120 patches to this >> driver.. >> >> Also, start fixing the issues it has with HAL 0.5.10 since that's going >> to hit the tree for real shortly. If you need a version to test

[gentoo-dev] Kerberos Maintainence

2007-12-10 Thread Doug Klima
y be your mentor and help you become an official developer. Short version, we need a Heimdal and MIT-KRB5 maintainer. Preferably 2 since Heimdal and MIT are different. Let me know if you're interested. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-11 Thread Doug Klima
the mailing list but didn't get a solid answer. I'm starting a new thread, and including this convo. that's a too lose rule, people break that on a daily basis in the tree. Let's address the issue now, rather then having a broken tree 3 months from now that will require 500 commits to fix. I'll just send this to the ML now. discuss. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI placement

2007-12-11 Thread Doug Klima
Thomas Anderson wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:21:31 Markus Ullmann wrote: Doug Klima schrieb: zmedico: what if I have EAPI=2 above the inherit but an eclass has EAPI=1 if an eclass sets EAPI, then the ebuild shouldn't... make it two eclasses if needed or plain bump them if r

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-11 Thread Doug Klima
Marius Mauch wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:59:28 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since it doesn't appear the question was answered by the last thread. I'm starting a new thread. The only sane solution I can think of is that eclasses shouldn't be allowed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Petteri Räty wrote: > Doug Klima kirjoitti: > >> Since it doesn't appear the question was answered by the last thread. >> I'm starting a new thread. >> >> > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/52981/match=eapi > > I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:59:28 -0500 > Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> discuss. >> > > * EAPI may only be set before the 'inherit' in an ebuild. > > * Eclasses may not set EAPI. > > * Eclasses may no

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI placement

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:02 -0500 > Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And I brough up valid reasons with zmedico why putting it before the >> inherit line was flawed currently since it could lead to some >> seriously unexpecte

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use the Log

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi everyone, > > this is a reminder especially for architecture people: Please use the > ChangeLog and really log everything you did. Don't do a change and > forget to "document" it. Oh and please don't forget to remove your > arches from the cc field if there is a b

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gnupg-2 stable plans

2007-12-12 Thread Doug Klima
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 14:26 +0200, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > >> On 12/12/07, Jan Kundrát <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >>> As I told you before, I wont slot these two. >>> Could you provide a link to reasons that

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Doug Klima
Luca Barbato wrote: > Rémi Cardona wrote: > >> I'll speak up then :) >> >> What I _really_ would like to see ASAP : >> >> 1) Dropping digest-* files for real (ie, not even having them on the >> master rsync server and CVS) >> Slated for after 2007.1 is released. >> 2) Slotted deps (I had t

[gentoo-dev] Asterisk 1.4 in Portage

2007-12-26 Thread Doug Klima
re to test (nor do I want any). So I'd like if someone out there that used/had zaptel hardware would pick up the ebuild. If you're interested, drop me a line. I'll send you over a 1.4.x ebuild. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-27 Thread Doug Klima
Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 04:16 -0500, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> On 12/25/07, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok. So do you use an EAPI 0 environment to do the sourcing, or an EAPI 1 environment, or what? >>> If it's that such a big deal,

Re: EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-27 Thread Doug Klima
Luca Barbato wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > >> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:10:13 +0100 >> Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Ok, that seems a fine definition of what an eapi is. Everybody agrees on it? >>> >> Nope. EAPI (from my POV) defines the API that a package manager h

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2007-12-31 Thread Doug Klima
to what a USE flag does. The only benefit use.local.desc gives us is a fast way to list packages using some flags, but that's unreliable at best. If needed such a list could be autogenerated. Marius -- Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE flag documentation

2008-01-02 Thread Doug Klima
Mark Loeser wrote: > Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> One of the GLEP's primary goals is to provide a global use flag >> definition and over-ride >> it with a local definition. How does putting all flags in use.desc >> and over-riding local flags in >> use.local.desc not accomplish th

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Houston we have a problem

2008-01-08 Thread Doug Klima
Alec Warner wrote: > On 1/8/08, William L. Thomson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> To keep it short and sweet. Our current structure is FUBARed. >> >> Foundation? Trustees? Election? Nominees? Ball dropped, shall we pick it >> up and resume a game? >> >> Gentoo does not exist legally. NPO fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] extend profiles.desc to include "experimental" profiles

2008-01-11 Thread Doug Klima
ing out all of our profiles in profiles.desc. This sounds very reasonable and logical. And hopefully if the tools in question are coded properly, it should be compatible with older versions until users upgrade. Good stuff Mike. -- Doug Klima Gentoo Developer -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-28 Thread Doug Klima
Mike Frysinger wrote: now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils and integrated straight into coreutils, perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone. current debianutils is part of "system" and provides: - installkernel - run-parts - tempfile - save

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-libs/libselinux: ChangeLog libselinux-1.34.14.ebuild

2008-01-29 Thread Doug Klima
1.4) pkg_postrm() { python_version python_mod_cleanup ${ROOT}usr/lib/python${PYVER}/site-packages } Per python.eclass, prefixing ${ROOT} to python_mod_cleanup is incorrect. Donnie and I were going to look into making stuff like this a bit more consistent but haven't had

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing quotes in eclasses

2008-02-13 Thread Doug Klima
Markus Meier wrote: Hi There are several eclasses missing quotes: http://dev.gentoo.org/~maekke/eclass-quoting.txt This is the same check as repoman does, so there might be more quotes needed or false-positives. Markus Might want to cull that list of deprecated eclasses. -- gentoo-dev@lis

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing quotes in eclasses

2008-02-13 Thread Doug Klima
Markus Meier wrote: On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:42:32 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Markus Meier wrote: Hi There are several eclasses missing quotes: http://dev.gentoo.org/~maekke/eclass-quoting.txt Might want to cull that list of deprecated eclasses.

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Doug Klima
Howdy all, We need to agree upon some syntax which we can mark an eclass as deprecated and potentially point to a replacement or multiple replacements. Discuss. -- Doug -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Doug Klima
planned on providing the eclass on the ML later tonight when I had it complete. Since I have a feeling my changes or suggestions won't jive with the kde herd, I'll offer mine up as svn.eclass -- Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-15 Thread Doug Klima
Bernd Steinhauser wrote: Doug Klima schrieb: 2) ESVN_OFFLINE which disables svn up. Isn't this a bit of a hack? The point is for it to run svn up. Now I've added support in a local refactor that I had started today that if the working copy's revision matches the requested revisi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Howdy all, We need to agree upon some syntax which we can mark an eclass as deprecated and potentially point to a replacement or multiple replacements. Discuss. Ok. I guess no one else has any feelings about this. Potentially doing something like: DEPRECIATED

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Deprecating an eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:43:56 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok. I guess no one else has any feelings about this. Potentially doing something like: DEPRECIATED="$DEPRECATED $ECLASS" Deprecated != depreciated. You caught my t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-18 Thread Doug Klima
get things going weirdly wrong if workarounds aren't added to everything using the code? I'd mutter something about EAPIs here, but really if people are having difficulty understanding the necessity of the original commit, I suspect it's a lost cause... 6 -- Doug Klima <[EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:15:18 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How many people are running a Portage version released after January 4? Eventually, all of them. And until then, how many users are going to get things going weirdly wrong if workarounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:44:43 -0500 Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A better statement on your part would have been "We need to ensure compatibility for the greatest amount of users and requiring users to have a version of Portage released after Janua

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo-x86 soon. Since the changes are fairly extensive we decided

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-19 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo-x86 soon. Since the changes are fairly

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-20 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo-x86 soon. Since the

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-20 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to put back in gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] subversion.eclass

2008-02-20 Thread Doug Klima
Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Doug Klima wrote: Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: For quite a while the KDE herd has had a modified version of subversion.eclass in the kde overlay. During that time we have added the following features to the eclass which we would like to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
Ed W wrote: Hi baselayout-2 was renamed to openrc when Roy left Gentoo as an official dev. Answering my own question (for the record). I found some explanation here: http://lycos.dropcode.net/gregarius/author.php?author=Roy_Marples__uberlord_ Does Roy hang out here? Roy: Is this intende

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
Ed W wrote: Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Check out OpenRC it is baselayout successor and works great! Funnily enough I came across this earlier today for different reasons. However, I hadn't realised that it was a full baselayout competitor? baselayout-2 was renamed to openrc when Roy left Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
Stefan Hellermann wrote: Roy Marples schrieb: Two small things happened here: After Login I the shell looks like: -bash-3.2# when I start then bash again manually it looks nice, the environment is not setup correctly the first time. Doesn't sound like an OpenRC issue as such as bash s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Baselayout-2 progress?

2008-02-29 Thread Doug Klima
date seemed to go reasonably well, but I've not rebooted yet... -- Doug Klima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list