Re: [gentoo-dev] pending dooooooom of use.defaults

2006-01-13 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 06:57:24AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: as one of the new sane features of the next portage-2.1_pre release, we're looking to cut out use.defaults support Could you add a USE_ORDER without auto to /etc/make.globals for that release, please, or alternatively provide some

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 05:56:47PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: - USE=debug *never* changes CFLAGS or LDFLAGS or what have you, it *only* enables additional runtime code (such as assert()'s or helpful debug output) ... I'd like to see cases such as use debug append-flags -DDEBUG explicitly

Re: [gentoo-dev] IUSE and LINGUAS?

2006-01-30 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 06:17:36AM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: [ebuild R ] media-tv/kdetv-0.8.8-r1 USE=-arts -debug -lirc -opengl -xinerama -zvbi LINGUAS=it% -bg% -br% -ca% -cs% -cy% -da% -de% -el% -en_GB% -es% -et% -fi% -fr% -ga% -gl% -hu% -is% -lt% -mt% -nb% -nl% -pa% -pl%

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gratuitous useflaggery (doc and examples)

2006-03-04 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 05:43:22PM +0200, Dan Armak wrote: Has anyone actually complained that too many docs are installed by default? Don't know about docs, but if examples count here too, see bug #111508. pgpWPL45zC4Dq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] DEPEND/RDEPEND question

2006-04-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 09:53:58AM +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: Lets say a package foo depends on bar, both at compile time and run time. Shouldn't DEPEND _and_ RDEPEND of the foo package reflect that dependency? I usually set DEPEND=$RDEPEND ... or vice-versa (depending on which is the most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 09:20:08AM +0200, Bart Braem wrote: Michael Kirkland wrote: I think the problem is that Gentoo is falling into the same sandtrap the Debian project has been mired in forever. arch and ~arch are polarizing into stable, but horribly out of date, and maybe it will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Modular X and hardened

2006-05-14 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 11:32:13AM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: [...] In summary, for Duncan's issue I suggest adding: # Xorg server is unaviodably suid with lazy bindings RESTRICT=stricter to the xorg-server ebuild to stop it dying for people with FEATURES=stricter (the comment

Re: [gentoo-dev] LINGUAS support

2006-05-15 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:09:09PM -0700, Tuan Van wrote: The other day spyderous was looking for a tool to remove extra .po that he doesn't need. I recommended him to set LINGUAS in make.conf. Then I realized some package doesn't respect that variable (ie eject) Would it be better (easier)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:06:54AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 01:42 +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote: paludis/packages: -*=sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.22 -*sys-apps/portage would be best Everything after the - must be *exactly* what is already specified in base/packages,

Re: [gentoo-dev] et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 11:38:06AM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, there are at least two problems with how portage currently handles locales: - Firstly some packages fail to build with obscure LC_* settings The continuous stream of et_EE bugs is annoying: http://tinyurl.com/jsqzb -

Re: [gentoo-dev] et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:09:08AM -0400, Patrick McLean wrote: No, it's needlessly unfriendly to users, and encourages broken packages. et_EE breakage should be fixed, and slowly but surely is, and as for unreadable error messages, getting German gcc output in a German locale is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 03:13:48PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Marc Hildebrand wrote: Otoh LC_ALL=C could help if you intend to use a .utf-8 locale as root, though. So if it does help solving bugs and causes no trouble, why not. ok, we have prepared a patch now, so everyone can have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 02:44:03PM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: Harald van Dijk wrote: and as for unreadable error messages, getting German gcc output in a German locale is a feature, not a bug. I agree - but only when you use gcc on the command line, or in a Makefile, or in some other

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 04:17:38PM +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote: On 19/05/06, Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Bainbridge wrote: It is a single signature across the entire portage tree. It means that after rsync emerge can check the signature against the retrieved tree to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 05:44:34PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Harald van Dijk wrote: [..] encourages broken packages. et_EE breakage should be fixed, and slowly but surely is[..] That is your main problem here and I have discussed this in IRC with you and it is true in my opinion

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 06:50:34PM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 15:13:15 +0100 Chris Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: find /usr/portage -path '/usr/portage/metadata' -prune -o -path '/usr/portage/distfiles' -prune -o -path '/usr/portage/packages' -prune -o -type f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 12:38:55PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: So, right now virtual/eject is the old-style virtual that gets listed in virtuals file in the profiles, defaulting to sys-apps/eject that is Linux only. I would like to move it to a new-style virtual to make it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving virtual/eject to new-style virtual

2006-05-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 07:12:53AM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Harald van Dijk wrote: How does it help? New-style virtuals have several disadvantages, and the usual advantages of new-style virtuals don't apply here. If it actually provides real benefits, then no objections from me, but how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need a use-expanded TV_GRAB variable for xmltv

2006-06-04 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 08:36:57PM -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: Jakub Moc wrote: Matteo Azzali wrote: Repoman considers lots of local variables as an error, I was pointed to expanded vars as a solution. If no developers has something against I'll be happy to use 28 local flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 04:09:44PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Slipping this in before 2.1 goes stable, it's a small check. Basically if your ebuild inherits a VCS eclass ( currently darcs, subversion, cvs ) AND your ebuild has stable keywords on any arches repoman will report an error.

Re: [gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:45:50AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 02:07, Harald van Dijk wrote: Some gnustep stuff inherits cvs, but uses -D in the cvs options to always download exactly the same thing. then arent you just adding overhead to the poor gnustep cvs servers

Re: [gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 01:54:08AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 10:19:41AM +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:45:50AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 02:07, Harald van Dijk wrote: Some gnustep stuff inherits cvs, but uses -D

Re: [gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 02:24:24AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 11:14:45AM +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 01:54:08AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 10:19:41AM +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 03:45:50AM

Re: [gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 12:57:08PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:56:16 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The devmanual states that they should not generally be added to the | tree softmasked or unmasked. It does not state that they should never | be added

Re: [gentoo-dev] new repoman check

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 01:51:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 14:41:43 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I then said that *you* say there can be legitimate reasons for them. | So why do *I* have to come up with examples of it? Well that's just it. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 06:03:57PM +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: Hi, today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. They are outdated and no longer needed on current systems: -imlib - imlib depends on gtk-1, which imo should not be installed in a default gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 06:59:22PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: Any comments/objections - any outdated useflags I forgot? Have a look at /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults for the list of current default use flags. I think gtk2 should be finally removed¹ from all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: -oss - oss is a legacy audio interface that has been superseeded by alsa in most current installs, a default use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:48:37AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:31, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer

Re: [gentoo-dev] parallel fun in src_install - going beyond the serial monotony of 'make install'

2006-06-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:58:07AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: In the present devmanual, for src_install, it notes that make install DESTDIR=${D} is the preferred way to fire off the install, and to not use emake, for fear of parallel issues. Actually, it uses `make DESTDIR=${D}

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-14 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:13:34AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: A great example of this are web-based applications. The web-apps project does not own all the web-based packages in the Portage tree. There are many such packages in the tree that are managed by developers that are not part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-15 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 15:54 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:13:34AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: A great example of this are web-based applications. The web-apps project does not own all

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclasses maintainers - raise your hands please

2006-06-15 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:32:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 15 June 2006 11:21, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 15 June 2006 16:50, Mike Frysinger wrote: this is dead as it's been integrated into portage Can gnuconfig_update calls go away from new ebuilds,

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclasses maintainers - raise your hands please

2006-06-15 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 04:25:10PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 15 June 2006 14:48, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:32:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 15 June 2006 11:21, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 15 June 2006 16:50, Mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] variable quoting, setting optional variables to , and depending on virtual/libc

2006-06-16 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 12:35:30AM -0400, Thomas Cort wrote: What is the proper quoting style for using epatch? In the tree there are about 3 different styles... epatch ${FILESDIR}/some-fix.patch # used by 7326 ebuilds epatch ${FILESDIR}/some-fix.patch# used by 3092

Re: [gentoo-dev] variable quoting, setting optional variables to , and depending on virtual/libc

2006-06-17 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 11:31:27PM -0700, Drake Wyrm wrote: Harald van D??k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any is fine, there is no word splitting or wildcard expansion in shell variable assignments. $ foo=bar * baz $ wombat=$foo $ echo $wombat bar somedir somefile baz The wildcard

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:57:33PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Saturday 17 June 2006 13:43, Luca Barbato wrote: you can use unions or rewrite completely the line using it in another way, in certain case the type pun is the quickest solution so it's better to append

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 03:32:36PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Easiest way to find these is to stick -Wall in global CFLAGS (or just -Wstrict-aliasing if you want to be more specific), and grep the build log for 'will break strict aliasing' (LC_ALL=C obviously). That warning is given for

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 02:28:28PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 15:20:52 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | and then accessing {first, null}, or {null, last} as a struct dl_node | the way to fix the code would be to rewrite the code to use arrays

Re: [gentoo-dev] strict-aliasing rules, don't break them

2006-06-17 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 01:15:58PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 17 June 2006 06:17, Luca Barbato wrote: Long term solution: 1- check your new package for aliasing compliance, and if you have time fix it in the code or in the makefile, if you haven't append -fno-strict-aliasing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-20 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 06:56:58PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Tuesday 20 June 2006 18:40, Stefan Schweizer wrote: 3) split the qt flag into a qt3 and a qt4 flag. This allows users to specifically pick qt3 or qt4 and the flag meanings are obvious - downsides are it is a lot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-06-21 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 05:20:47PM +0200, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 15:44, Stefan Schweizer wrote: qt3 - enable optional qt3 support qt4 - enable optional qt4 support That will be a mess to support in the long run. Why? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage for overlays' projects [was: sunrise, a temporary compromise]

2006-06-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 08:43:23AM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: First of all, I'm not sure why devrel was involved in a technical decision without actually having all the interested parties there, but aside from that, when Gentoo developers become a bunch of 5 year olds? What is this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage for overlays' projects [was: sunrise, a temporary compromise]

2006-06-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 03:27:53PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:09:24 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | You're suggesting jakub maybe shouldn't even be a Gentoo dev because | he *doesn't* give one unofficial overlay special treatment over | another

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage for overlays' projects [was: sunrise, a temporary compromise]

2006-06-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:11:15AM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 15:09 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: You're suggesting jakub maybe shouldn't even be a Gentoo dev because he *doesn't* give one unofficial overlay special treatment over another? The jave unofficial

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage for overlays' projects [was: sunrise, a temporary compromise]

2006-06-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 01:33:21PM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 18:07 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:11:15AM -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 15:09 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: You're suggesting jakub maybe shouldn't even

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 02:21:43PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:58, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Well, there are enough in the tree There are ebuilds for non-gcc compilers. There's no support in using them for anything like building stuff. Let's think to all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:41:26AM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 04:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: echo | $(tc-getCC) ${CFLAGS} -dM -E - 2/dev/null Thoughts? Comments? How will you handle non-gcc compilers? Non gcc

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:42:20PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:06:18 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GNU toolchain is not supported by Gentoo, and in fact gets actively broken with unsupported command-line options. Only the GNU toolchain

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 04:03:26PM -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote: Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:42:20PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:06:18 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GNU toolchain is not supported by Gentoo, and in fact gets

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 07:44:34PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:14, Harald van Dijk wrote: Gentoo's gcc with the vanilla flag isn't the official GCC. Most patches don't get appplied, but some do. Plus, gcc[vanilla] isn't a supported compiler in Gentoo. you're

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:00:09PM +0200, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:46:16 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 07:44:34PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:14, Harald van Dijk wrote: Gentoo's gcc with the vanilla

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:55:03PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: Keep pushing this and the only thing you will end up with is the vanilla flag being removed all together.. Is that a threat? If not, is there a reason behind this? You want a pure 100% vanilla(POS) non working toolchain then go

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 03:57:51PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:40 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:55:03PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: Keep pushing this and the only thing you will end up with is the vanilla flag being removed all together

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 05:12:21PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 01:46, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 07:44:34PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:14, Harald van Dijk wrote: Gentoo's gcc with the vanilla flag isn't the official

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-07 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 06:13:27PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: ignored *what* then ? you requested USE=vanilla control ssp, i said no and i'll add support for USE=nossp ... you requested USE/stub control, i said no, go delete the stubs USE=nossp existed before USE=vanilla did. To be sure

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:50:27PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 19:04, Harald van Dijk wrote: I hope this is specific enough: toolchain.eclass revision 1.234 (separating ssp/... from vanilla) log message: ssp/pie/htb have their own USE flags sep from vanilla, so people

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 11:27:57AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: On Sat, 2006-07-08 at 08:20 +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:50:27PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 19:04, Harald van Dijk wrote: the ssp/pie/htb patches have their own USE flags

Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags)

2006-07-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
(Not commenting on the whole message, just parts.) On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 03:46:24PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: You can however fix the tree to make sure it will fully build without those flags, and then talk to Mike again about removing them. I am sure he might be more willing if it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

2006-07-14 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 09:09:15PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Wednesday 21 June 2006 15:45, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -qt +qt3: This would only be available in 2 cases: - Package supports both qt4 and qt3, and they're mutually exclusive - Package supports both qt4 and qt3, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 02:14:46PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Ned Ludd [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: snip Non gcc compilers have never been supported and probably never will be. If someone decides to work on that topic, IMHO the best approach would be providing an gcc-style frontend,

Re: [gentoo-dev] atom matching behavior

2006-08-02 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 07:07:35AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: Repost from gentoo-portage-dev[1]: Was just brought to my attention that the =* operator doesn't work as I thought, as for example =foo-1.2* matches foo-1.20 as well as foo-1.2.3. This wouldn't be a bug problem if it could be used

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 12:04:01PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:35:32 +0200 Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | USE=test is a workaround; portage cannot use FEATUREs in dep | strings. Actually, it could, if anyone ever got around to adding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

2006-08-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 02:35:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Saturday 05 August 2006 06:57, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: * glibc * autoconf * gettext

Re: [gentoo-dev] Setting USE_EXPAND defaults in profiles (in some cases)

2006-08-07 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:01:12AM +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: Zac Medico wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: agaffney suggested this in the first place, and every time I think about it, it seems like a better idea. If we set VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES in the arch profiles, we get the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-12 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 01:13:48PM +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: Jeroen Roovers wrote: On a minor note, I'd also like to see bug reporters use canonical package names in bug descriptions, including the category (and preferably the specific version, not some =foo-3*!!!one, not to mention

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft attachments on bugs.g.o

2006-08-12 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 02:42:32PM +, Francesco Riosa wrote: [...] $ cd gentoo-x86/*/foo This works better: $ cd gentoo-x86/*/foo/ This avoids the case where a file by the same name exists (for example, in licenses/). may be $ cd gentoo-x86/*-*/foo/ ? Maybe. That

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-14 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 11:22:11PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Comments both on the nature and the specifics of the specification would be welcomed. In particular, I'd like to know if people think we're mandating the appropriate degree of specificity and whether we're providing sufficient

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-16 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 07:39:35PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:51:09 +0200 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 11:22:11PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Comments both on the nature and the specifics of the specification | would

Re: [gentoo-dev] LC_ALL=C Set by default for portage

2009-03-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 09:20:14PM +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Hi, lately i see that in our bugzilla most of the build reports are reported with localized build logs which we dont understand. This leads to us asking the user to run the emerge once more with LC_ALL=C. Wont it be nice to

Re: [gentoo-dev] LC_ALL=C Set by default for portage

2009-03-08 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 09:27:20PM +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote: Moreover this would automagically solve the [a-z] friends regexp failures; though that's still good QA to fix them but we wouldn't encounter them anymore. We would encounter them when using the programs outside of portage, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preparing profiles for EAPI 3 IUSE strictness

2009-07-10 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 05:02:10AM +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-07-07 01:01:11 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): ... IUSE_IMPLICIT=build debug Are people wanting to make those implicit? IMHO they shouldn't be implicit. Agreed. They shouldn't be implicit, if

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-30 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 08:51:18PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 06:43:47AM -0500, Richard Freeman wrote: On 12/29/2009 07:52 PM, Greg KH wrote: No, the readme/copying is correct, it covers all of the code that runs on the processor as one body of work. Firmware blobs are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] base.eclass

2010-01-03 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 02:56:01AM +0100, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Dne 3.1.2010 01:56, Mark Bateman napsal(a): There seems to be alot of unquoted variables 65 base_src_util $@ This is not problem Only because you can be sure there will be exactly one word in the result, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] base.eclass

2010-01-03 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 11:28:27AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Harald van Dijk wrote: 65 base_src_util $@ This is not problem Only because you can be sure there will be exactly one word in the result, which will not be split. In general, $@ should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2010-01-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 10:57:01AM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 11:55:49PM -0500, Vincent Launchbury wrote: Greg KH wrote: And note, _I_ placed those images in the kernel image, after consulting lawyers about this issue, so it's not like I don't know what I am talking

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 04:58:57PM -0400, James Cloos wrote: CM == Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com writes: CM There's no need to offer the user the choice to do something that is CM always broken. Your car doesn't have a connect the exhaust fumes to CM the air conditioning

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug wrangler queue is large...

2010-05-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 03:33:33PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 25 May 2010 14:46:01 Matti Bickel wrote: I wrangle bugs when there's a need and I'd like to hear what maintainers want to see on a bug assigned to them. If info is missing I usually ask for it and assign the bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug wrangler queue is large...

2010-05-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:25:20PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: and people on the wrangler alias see that traffic, so the state doesnt matter. but i guess you're trying to cater to people who only scan the assigned list rather than watching the e-mails sent to it. Yes, people like myself

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those eclasses do pull in dev-lang/python, which is unversioned, so it will always pull in the latest version, in this case python-3*. You could change this, so it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:03:48AM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: Am 05.06.2010 20:31, schrieb Harald van Dijk: On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 05:49:08PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote: If any package does inherit python or distutils eclass, then those eclasses do pull in dev-lang/python, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] LINGUAS handling

2010-06-09 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 11:38:03AM +0400, Peter Volkov wrote: 1. Do we want all packages to support LINGUAS if possible? It is possible to leave gettext based package without LINGUAS and everything will just work, but I think that it's good idea to make supported languages visible to user

Re: [gentoo-dev] lastrite: www-client/kazehakase

2010-06-26 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:35:29AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: nothing usable left in tree. # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (26 Jun 2010) # Masked for QA # # Fails to compile with stable xulrunner, see bug 317275 # Fails to compile with GTK+-2.20, see bug 325661 # Ignores

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-27 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 02:56:33PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/27/2010 01:47 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de schrieb: Did it actually occur to anyone that warnings are not errors? You can have them for correct code. A warning means you might want

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: FYI: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-06-27 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 05:46:28PM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/27/2010 03:23 PM, Harald van Dijk wrote: The compiler is not totally free to ignore the register keyword. Both the C and the C++ standards require that the compiler complain when taking the address of a register

Re: [gentoo-dev] Minor changes in python.eclass and distutils.eclass

2010-07-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:01:27PM +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2010-07-05 18:36:09 Tomáš Chvátal napisał(a): Dne 5.7.2010 18:34, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a): python.eclass uses colors for build time outputting, which doesn't communicate anything

Re: [gentoo-dev] Minor changes in python.eclass and distutils.eclass

2010-07-05 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:38:32PM +0200, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 07:01:27PM +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2010-07-05 18:36:09 Tomáš Chvátal napisał(a): Dne 5.7.2010 18:34, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a): python.eclass uses

Re: [gentoo-dev] rgb file specification

2008-01-19 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 05:43:18PM +, Ferris McCormick wrote: This is random musing based based on perhaps my own problems. I need a local color.file to see well what I have going on, and current xorg ignores that. Thus, at every build, there is in oscolor.c a constant I must change

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-wm/sawfish: ChangeLog sawfish-1.3.2.ebuild sawfish-1.3_p20050816-r1.ebuild sawfish-1.3_p20060816.ebuild sawfish-1.3.20040120.ebuild sawfi

2008-01-22 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:21:26PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 22 January 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 20:58 Tue 22 Jan , Harald van Dijk (truedfx) wrote: WANT_AUTOCONF=latest WANT_AUTOMAKE=latest redundant, please drop Done. eaclocal || die

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-util/eclipse-sdk: eclipse-sdk-3.2.1-r2.ebuild ChangeLog eclipse-sdk-3.3.1.1.ebuild

2008-01-23 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 05:31:13PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2008, Steve Long wrote: Or even: find blah -exec sed 'blah blah' + we specifically discourage `find -exec` in favor of `find -print0 | xargs -0` because it sucks. In what way? I'm not aware of any

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: app-editors/ted

2008-09-14 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:17:12PM -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote: # Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] (13 Sep 2008) # Masked for removal in 60 days. Multiple issues, broke for some people. Needs # maintainer. automagic deps. See bug #154997 app-editors/ted I've fixed the build and marked myself as

Re: [gentoo-dev] ${PORTDIR}/profiles/package.use

2005-10-21 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 10:56:57PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:49 pm, Dan Meltzer wrote: Why single out this one? ones system will not break irreperbly without a cxx compiler, it'll just cause a another recompile to get it to work after breakage if the

[gentoo-dev] Ebuilds for packages without a homepage?

2005-10-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
What's the right thing to do with an ebuild's HOMEPAGE variable if there is not any homepage? Different packages have different approaches for this; some don't have any HOMEPAGE line (dev-util/cdecl), some set HOMEPAGE to the empty string (app-i18n/kon2), possibly with a comment following it

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-20 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:21AM -0500, Curtis Napier wrote: If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari so feedback from

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-21 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 02:18:21AM -0500, Curtis Napier wrote: If you have access to a Macintosh, Windows, *BSD or any other OS or Browser please test the site and include your OS and the browser version in your feedback. I haven't received feedback from Konqueror or Safari so feedback from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-22 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 11:39:29AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Another Gentoo is about choice argument. Can I ask you something? Where does it say that Gentoo is about choice? I see lots of places that say that Gentoo allows you to customize, but nowhere do I see anything that says that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:14:53PM +, kang wrote: Curtis Napier wrote: gentoo.org and all domains owned by the Gentoo Foundation should render correctly in all browsers that are still in general use. IE5 on the mac is still a valid browser and will be supported as much as possible.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-25 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 03:56:14PM +, kang wrote: Harald van Dijk wrote: Even with its bugs, it's one of best browsers for MacOS 8.1, which I still use. But if you can suggest a better one, please do. You might want to try iCab or opera. Well, I'd suggest you to run linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy

2005-12-13 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:50:16AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote: my gnu stack docs are actually complete: http://hardened.gentoo.org/gnu-stack.xml A question about that: you discourage fixing this with --noexecstack because it's better to be able to submit a patch upstream. What's your take on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy

2005-12-14 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 08:51:42AM +0100, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:59:23 +0100 Harald van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:50:16AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote: my gnu stack docs are actually complete: http://hardened.gentoo.org/gnu-stack.xml

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