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On 01/03/12 05:17 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> net-misc/wakeonlan
I'll take this one..
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On 09/03/12 10:41 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 03/09/2012 07:21 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> The advantage that the eapi function has over a comment is that
>> it's not magic -- it's just normal bash syntax. So we've
>> addressed that issue at a smal
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On 12/03/12 02:50 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> GLEP 55 is simple, it solves all the problems we have (including
>> the version issue, which everyone is conveniently ignoring), it
>> doesn't require u
On 2012-03-12, at 9:22 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
>
> And yes, I've already tested out udev-181 on a VM with a
> separate /usr. With devtmpfs, the system fully boots just fine, no
> initramfs needed. Guess what the only piece of software to mess up is?
> Udev. I largely think it's a timing iss
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On 12/03/12 11:14 PM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> On 03/12/2012 22:33, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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>> On 2012-03-12, at 9:22 PM, Joshua Kinard
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>> And yes, I've already tested
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On 21/03/12 10:34 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 03/21/12 10:18, Justin wrote:
>> I will not extract part of the software, e.g. subroutines, for
>> use in other contexts without permission of the author.
>
> Portage could be considered to be one of the
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On 23/03/12 12:02 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:58:47 -0400 Mike Gilbert
> wrote:
>>> oasis_src_compile() { oasis_src_compile_no_doc if has doc
>>> ${IUSE} && use doc; then ocaml setup.ml -doc || die fi }
>>
>> This should pro
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On 23/03/12 12:19 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:14:39 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
> wrote:
>> I don't know if I follow this one or not. When inheriting an
>> eclass, all entities within the eclass get me
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On 23/03/12 12:32 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 23/03/12 12:19 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:14:39 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
>> wrote:
>>> I don't know if I follow this one or not. When i
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On 27/03/12 04:04 AM, Ian Whyman wrote:
> On 27 March 2012 08:33, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44, Alec Warner
>> wrote:
Long term, we may want to consider porting pybugz to use
Bugzilla's XML-RPC api to avoid such
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On 27/03/12 02:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev
>
>> The partitioning scheme is something that the user needs to
>> decide on *before* getting Gentoo up and running. After the user
>> had finished in
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On 27/03/12 03:04 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
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>> You know, we have "Code Listing 2.1: Filesystem Example" in
>> Section 4, we could always adjust that to have a /usr/portage
>> partition in it (take a bit of space away from /home, or
>> something)
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On 27/03/12 03:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
>
> I know this has come up before, but I don't really recall what the
> specific objections were.
>
> IMO the portage directory doesn't belong under /usr at all. I was
> chatting with another deve
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On 27/03/12 04:08 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 28 March 2012 08:59, William Hubbs wrote:
>> What I was wanting to discuss mainly was that /usr/portage isn't
>> right; I think we need to move that out of the /usr directory.
>>
>> I'm not sure what t
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On 28/03/12 03:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Christoph Mende
> wrote:
>>
>> I believe it's /var/lib/. Here's what FHS says: /var/cache
>> is intended for cached data from applications. Such data is
>> locally genera
On 2012-04-15, at 5:03 AM, Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:35:40 -0700
> Zac Medico wrote:
>
>> On 04/15/2012 01:16 AM, Ryan Hill wrote:
>>> Right now we have support in some packages for user patches - those being
>>> patches dropped into /etc/portage/patches/pkgname/ - which are a
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On 26/04/12 06:03 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
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> Dear all,
>
> I'd like to suggest we introduce the following very useful feature,
> as soon as possible (which likely means in the next EAPI?):
>
> * two new files in profile directories supporte
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On 23/05/12 03:23 PM, hasufell wrote:
> On 05/20/2012 03:25 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 15:33:11 +0300 Samuli Suominen
>> wrote:
>
>>> ChangeLog entries missing for every autotools.eclass
>>> modification today.
>
>> I will re
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On 24/05/12 01:13 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 25 May 2012 03:02, Ralph Sennhauser wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2012 16:40:02 +0200 Michał Górny
>> wrote:
>>
>>> d) Talk with github folks to add our repo as 'mirror'.
>>
>> Can we keep the master on G
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On 26/05/12 03:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
>
> I realize this has been discussed and there are definite opinions
> about which method works well. So, I want to take a different
> approach.
>
> Is there any interest in documenting and support
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On 27/05/12 10:56 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:49:07AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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>> On 26/05/12 03:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>>> Al
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On 30/05/12 01:01 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> ... In other words, removing a pager leaves system in a broken
> state. AFAICS, 'eselect pager' doesn't even support a system
> without pager -- it just fails miserably. So the user is either
> forced to in
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On 06/06/12 10:07 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012, Samuli Suominen wrote:
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>> # Samuli Suominen (06 Jun 2012) #
>> Vulnerable and no longer used by anything in tree wrt #403415 #
>> Removal in 30 days
> Why a version depende
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On 07/06/12 03:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
>> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 Pacho Ramos
>> wrote:
I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to
RDEPEND on glib:2
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On 08/06/12 03:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
>> It's close enough to ABI_SLOT that it would make more sense just
>> to use ABI_SLOT because it's more flexible.
>
> In that case, I think it's c
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On 10/06/12 08:45 AM, Davide Pesavento wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700 Zac Medico
>> wrote:
>>> A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts.
>>> Using the db
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On 10/06/12 06:49 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 01:25:55PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700 Zac Medico
>> wrote:
>>> A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts.
>>> Using the
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Hey all - I'd like to propose that enewuser forces updates to a user's
home dir and shell whenever it is called, so that if this changes with
new versions of an ebuild it is dealt with automatically rather than
having to modify them in pkg_postinst/p
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On 13/06/12 01:19 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:00:16 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
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>> + ### force updates of some user properties +
>> usermod -d "${ehome}" "${euser}&qu
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On 13/06/12 02:18 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On 6/13/2012 12:00 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>> Hey all - I'd like to propose that enewuser forces updates to a
>> user's home dir and shell whenever it is called, so that if
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On 13/06/12 02:09 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 13-06-2012 12:00:16 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>> Hey all - I'd like to propose that enewuser forces updates to a
>> user's home dir and shell whenever it is called, s
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On 13/06/12 01:21 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 13/06/12 01:19 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:00:16 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
>> wrote:
>
>>> + ### force updates of some user properties
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On 13/06/12 02:45 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 13/06/12 01:21 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>> On 13/06/12 01:19 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:00:16 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
>>> wrote:
>
>>
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On 13/06/12 03:04 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
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> we have egetshell and egethome already. thus it's fairly easy to
> detect the transition case. if they installed the older version
> which set values that you now want to change: if has_version
> ' e
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On 13/06/12 03:14 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
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> eset{home,shell} don't exist today, so you should implement them
> :) -mike
RFC - heavily based on enewuser.
- --- user.eclass [some timestamp]
+++ user.eclass.esethome [some other timesta
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On 13/06/12 04:51 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 June 2012 15:35:40 Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>> --- user.eclass [some timestamp] +++
>> user.eclass.esethome [some other timestamp] @@ -388,3 +388,63
&g
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On 13/06/12 06:30 PM, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> As per bug #421037, there is a demand to make multiple voicemail
> storage backends switchable within the ebuild. The USE_EXPAND
> mechanism would automatically provide an explan
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On 14/06/12 07:58 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> 9'ish consumers. I propose "Enable support for the PostScript
>> language"
>
> Perhaps "ps" or "postscript" instead of the implementation-centric
> "gs" ?
>
>
> //Peter
>
I t
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On 14/06/12 10:43 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 05:02 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>> On Thursday 14 June 2012 21:16:31 Samuli Suominen wrote:
>>> So how about renaming USE="gs" consumers to USE="ps" and making
>>> USE="ps" global flag with
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On 15/06/12 09:27 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> + # lets see if the username already exists + if [[
>>> ! -n $(egetent passwd "${euser}") ]] ; then
>>
>> "! -n" -> "-z"
>
> Does the $() argument ever need to be doub
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On 16/06/12 09:37 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 13:43 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
>> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:26:16 +0200 Pacho Ramos
>> wrote:
>>> About suggesting new item (like forcing rebuilding of other
>>> packages as di
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On 16/06/12 12:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:24:22 +0200 Peter Stuge
> wrote:
>> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Could it work to make automatic signatures of imported ABI,
and simply compare signatures when a provider pack
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On 16/06/12 12:24 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:16:34 +0200 Pacho Ramos
> wrote:
>> I can try to check it if no maintainer shows more packages
>> showing this stable API unstable ABIs issues
>
> Please do. This is a fairly im
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On 17/06/12 11:53 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:46:00 +0200 Thomas Sachau
> wrote:
>>>
>>> ... If I weren't using 32-bit libs, and now I want to compile
>>> 32-bit wine, I have to recompile most of my libraries for both
>>> ABIs.
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On 21/06/12 05:33 AM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 04:08 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Richard Yao posted on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:16:23 -0400 as
>> excerpted:
>>
>>> 3. How does getting a x86 system to boot differ from getting a
>>> MIPS system or ARM s
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On 21/06/12 03:05 PM, David Leverton wrote:
> Michał Górny wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> A simple solution to a program long-unsolved. In GLEP form.
>
> Just a couple of minor points/nitpicks:
>
> [ Snip! ]
>
> 2) It's not forbidden for package A to dep
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On 21/06/12 08:24 PM, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 06:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> we're a DISTRO - we integrate and ship what upstream gives us...
>
> RHEL is a distribution, but I understand that RedHat does a great
> deal of upstream progr
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On 22/06/12 12:48 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 06/21/2012 02:32 PM, David Leverton wrote:
>> Michał Górny wrote:
>>> But in the current form, the spec doesn't allow passing
>>> IUSE_RUNTIME flags to has_version() so we're on the safe side
>>> :P.
>>
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On 23/06/12 08:42 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 06/10/2012 11:18 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
>> On 06/10/2012 05:25 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700 Zac Medico
>>> wrote:
A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI
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On 25/06/12 01:58 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 06/25/2012 06:03 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
>> On 23/06/12 08:42 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
>>> On 06/10/2012 11:18 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
>>>> On 06/10/2012 05:25 AM, Ciaran Mc
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On 28/06/12 09:41 PM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> I was doing a fresh Gentoo install today, following the manual, and
> it appeared to me that the manual suggests to install a "logger"
> and a "cron", and gives some defacto suggestions.
>
> However, the a
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On 30/06/12 05:30 AM, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 06/30/2012 01:46 AM, Torsten Veller wrote:
>> * Ian Stakenvicius :
>>> FYI, all the work subslotting the perl stuff doesn't work yet,
>>> so it's probably best to
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On 30/06/12 11:16 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Saturday 30 June 2012 07:22:39 Zac Medico wrote:
>> On 06/30/2012 04:07 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>> I would like to discuss a bit more issues like:
>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423087
>>
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On 30/06/12 01:30 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> El sáb, 30-06-2012 a las 13:17 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió:
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>> On 30/06/12 11:16 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On
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Hey all -- so with Zac's help I've got a script now that will
significantly speed up testing of EAPI=4-slot-abi from my ('axs') overlay.
The script upgrades your system's portage db (/var/db/pkg) so that any
EAPI=4 atoms currently installed will be
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On 03/07/12 05:05 AM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> On 3 July 2012 20:24, Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>> --depclean?
>
> eix Module-Metadata [I] perl-core/Module-Metadata Available
> versions: ~1.0.3 ~1.0.4 ~1.0.5 1.0.6 ~1.0.9<--- not unmasked
> by --auto
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On 07/07/12 07:29 AM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Zac Medico wrote:
>>> I'd suggest a special ebuild phase to check for ABI
>>> changes, like the pre_pkg_preinst_abi_check phase
>>> suggested here:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_b
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On 11/07/12 06:40 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's no
>> need to build systemd, than what it requires is irrelevant.
>
>
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On 11/07/12 11:40 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:49:18AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote
>> Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of
>> work into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for
>> udev. There's
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On 12/07/12 12:17 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 12 July 2012 06:51, Zac Medico wrote:
>>
>> Here's another related bug report, specifically about the solving
>> the libxml2/qt-webkit/chromium conflict:
>>
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=
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On 12/07/12 01:01 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò
>> wrote:
>>> Il 11/07/2012 21:11, William Hubbs ha scritto:
I am about to release udev-186-
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On 12/07/12 03:17 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:01:21 +0800 Ben de Groot
> wrote:
>
>> On 12 July 2012 07:42, William Hubbs
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:57:42PM +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò
>>> wrote:
Il 11/07/2012
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On 12/07/12 07:41 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> On 12 July 2012 17:52, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Ben de Groot
>> wrote:
>>> Actually, there is another workable solution, and that is to
>>> set USE="-gstreamer -icu" for qt
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On 12/07/12 10:19 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:47:33 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
> wrote:
>> Updating vdb shouldn't be an issue here, as long as pkg_postinst
>> doesn't crash mid-stream. Is th
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On 12/07/12 10:20 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:43:57 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
> wrote:
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>> On 12/07/12 01:01 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>>>
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On 15/07/12 06:16 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
> On 07/15/2012 03:08 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote:
>> Is it valid to do something like:
>>
>> move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins move
>> media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins m
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On 15/07/12 09:00 PM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> Thinking in that direction does stimulate yet another idea, tho.
>> What about a squashfs root? AFAIK squashfs is read-only at u
On 2012-07-17, at 7:07 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
> I'm sure most people can't
> even explain the difference between them.
>
/sbin is for bins that only root should be able to run. easy. :)
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On 18/07/12 03:47 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Michael Mol
>> wrote:
>>
>> The real benefit is that it allows you to mount any partition, if
>> the tools
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On 18/07/12 03:49 PM, Peter Stuge wrote:
> William Hubbs wrote:
>> /etc/init.d/foo stop start
>>
>> would no longer work the way you might expect because there would
>> be no way to tell whether start is a command or an argument to
>> stop.
>>
>> W
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On 18/07/12 03:55 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Ian Stakenvicius
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>> On 18/07/12 03:47 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On We
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On 18/07/12 04:05 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
> [...] However lets say I have coreutils in / and coreutils in my
> initramfs. I upgrade coreutils from v1 to v2. Are you saying that
> you are too afraid to update coreutils in / and then also update it
> in
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On 18/07/12 04:09 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>
> The other approach, which is on the bug, still has this issue,
> e.g.
>
> /etc/init.d/foo command1 arg1 arg2 command2 arg3 arg4 command3
> arg5
>
> gets pretty ugly pretty quick. which arguments go wi
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On 20/07/12 06:18 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Weber
> wrote:
>> is it intentional behavior, that home directories created by
>> enewuser belong to $user:root (or pwd group) instead of
>> $user:$group ?
>
>
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On 20/07/12 01:54 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:43:15 -0400 Alexandre Rostovtsev
> wrote:
>>> If you dep upon foo[linguas_en(+)] and linguas_en isn't in
>>> IUSE, what happens?
>>
>> Fatal error. If a package installs its tran
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On 20/07/12 03:13 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:05:35 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius
> wrote:
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>>> On Fri,
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On 20/07/12 03:48 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 20:17 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:15:31 -0400 Alexandre Rostovtsev
>> wrote:
That's sensitive to old versions ebuilds being removed from
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On 23/07/12 09:58 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> On 24-07-2012 01:33, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I propose to commit this news item in 2 or 3 days. Does anyone
>>>
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On 24/07/12 07:39 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> From a different angle, perhaps stage3s shouldn't include a
> default /etc/make.conf at all. Would solve this issue nicely, and
> doesn't require a news item at all, IMO.
>
Would that work? We still
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On 24/07/12 02:52 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> On 07/24/2012 09:33 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>> On 24-07-2012 09:24:03 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> I guess this is a matter of opinion, but on Gentoo I don't
>>> think we're really at much r
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On 24/07/12 05:13 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 04:32:00PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
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>> I've often seen cases like these handled by keeping a referenced
>> file where it's traditionally expected to be found, but leaving a
>>
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On 24/07/12 08:55 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:42:31AM +0200, Ralph Sennhauser wrote
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>> man 5 portage about files in /etc/portage
>>
>> make.conf The global custom settings for Portage. See
>> make.conf(5). If present, this
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On 31/07/12 10:55 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:48 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
> wrote:
>> On 7/26/12 8:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> I've been messing around with namespaces and some of what
>>> systemd has been doing with them,
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On 09/08/12 02:57 AM, Duncan wrote:
> Jason A. Donenfeld posted on Thu, 09 Aug 2012 06:33:02 +0200 as
> excerpted:
>
> Consider... five years ago was 2007. Android hadn't been released
> yet at this point in 2007 (November, according to the LWN 2007
On 2012-08-17, at 11:00 PM, "Gregory M. Turner" wrote:
> It has come to my attention that gentoo supports "relative" ROOT, which is to
> say that, by design, portage will act as though (in bash terms):
>
> ROOT
>
> equals
>
> "${PWD}/${ROOT}"
>
> when (again in bash terms):
>
> [[ $ROOT
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On 24/08/12 03:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 01:50:14PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 12:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
>>> The second question this bug brings up is whether services
>>> should
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On 24/08/12 07:48 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 07:40:43AM +0900, hero...@gentoo.org
> wrote:
>> Besides, IMHO, we should avoid changing OpenRC's default
>> dependency too often. The solution for one user can be received
>> as a
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On 25/08/12 11:53 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 03:19:24PM +0900, hero...@gentoo.org
> wrote:
>> If we set rc_provide="net" in rc.conf, the services that need net
>> can be tricked as we intended to.
This makes more sense to me
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On 25/08/12 04:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
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> The bottom line here is: I don't think all of the services we have
> set up to "need net" in their default configuration should be set
> up that way. It would make OpenRC work out of the box for many
>
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On 28/08/12 10:35 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Michał Górny
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:26:02 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar
>> Arahesis wrote:
>>
>>> 2012-08-28 00:19:28 Michał Górny napisał(a):
+case $
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On 28/08/12 10:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:10:01 +0200 Tiziano Müller
> wrote:
>
>> Am Dienstag, den 28.08.2012, 10:06 +0200 schrieb Michał Górny:
>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 06:26:02 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar
>>> Arahesi
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On 28/08/12 11:47 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Sylvain Alain
> wrote:
>> Hi everyone, I don't want to start a flamewar on that subject,
>> but I would like to know if there's any official position about
>> the current
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On 30/08/12 08:37 AM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Johannes Huber
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> Developers have only a limited amount of time, and this will
>>> eat into it. The result is likely to not be new shiny ebuilds
>>
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On 30/08/12 08:30 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Johannes Huber
> wrote:
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>> EAPI 0 is more readable than EAPI 4? No benefit for maintainer?
>> No benefit for user who wants to read the ebuild? Realy?
>
> Then why mak
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On 30/08/12 09:04 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
> wrote:
>> If you are rewriting a full ebuild as your solution, and the
>> ebuild you start with is EAPI<4 , then Markos would ap
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On 30/08/12 09:14 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
> wrote:
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>> The primary benefit to the policy that dev's should bump EAPI
>> when bumping ebuilds is so that older inferi
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On 31/08/12 10:56 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> Michał Górny wrote:
>>
>> I believe that the more important direction here is to make
>> development *easier*, not harder. Adding the same DEPENDs over
>> and over again to every single package is at l
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On 31/08/12 11:27 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 15:45 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:21:15 +0200 Ulrich Mueller
>> wrote:
>>> Coming back to this old topic [1]. Is there still consensus
>>> that we
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On 31/08/12 12:08 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 31/08/12 11:27 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 15:45 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:21:15 +0200 Ulrich Mueller
>>>
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On 31/08/12 12:12 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 31-08-2012 18:08:12 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
>> And for a reasonable Gentoo toolchain, pkg-config is a must-have.
>> At least since we deprecated and are seriously fighting libtool.
>
> what?
depre
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