Re: [gentoo-dev] omitting redirecting man pages from compression

2010-09-21 Thread James Cloos
strategies may be better served by compressing all but the smallest files. Good heuristics for the default compress-or-don’t threshold should cover most systems, but the ability to easily override the default is desirable. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Locale check in python_pkg_setup()

2010-08-05 Thread James Cloos
st fine from what I can see). JC> If there are any issues with those locales besides the warnings that JC> localedef outputs, I haven't seen them yet. There will be more errors, such as: , | Cannot open the message catalog "man" for locale "POSIX.UTF-8" | (NLSPAT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Locale check in python_pkg_setup()

2010-07-31 Thread James Cloos
of the concept of locales (on Linux-based systems, at least). -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Locale check in python_pkg_setup()

2010-07-31 Thread James Cloos
ning that a command such as 'rm [a-z]*' will unlink(2) 'Makefile' and similar files which one would not expect to match) and cause bugs. In fact, glibc's insistance that C and POSIX are ascii rather than raw unspecified eight bit is itself a bug. Utf8 is nice, but fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-23 Thread James Cloos
a *very* fast system. Even across a dialup straw, an emerge --sync is orders of magnitude faster. If the ebuild calls a class which has been overridden by a local class, and the original class set DEPENDs or the like, then as it reads in the new class file it should just use those values in place of the ones in the cache. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-19 Thread James Cloos
ortage's eclasses with one's own is not "always broken"; your analogy is not at all on point. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-17 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "CM" == Ciaran McCreesh writes: CM> Users aren't responsible... Even if that is or were so, it is irrelevant. It is ther user's box, and therefore the users' preference is the only valid choice. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-16 Thread James Cloos
al undergoes major renovation. All portage needs to do is accept that local overrides are more important than anything coming from upstream. And do so w/o making it impossible to use caches for everything which does not have a local override. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-16 Thread James Cloos
xacly as I described it. And lets not forget that the current situation is in fact a regression. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-12 Thread James Cloos
in portage or in the overlay the ebuild came from, if applicable. Every time portage looks for an eclass, it should check there first (caching what it found, to save future lookups w/in that run) and just use anything it finds. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-12 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "ZM" == Zac Medico writes: ZM> On 04/06/2010 07:22 AM, James Cloos wrote: >>>>>>> "ZM" == Zac Medico writes: >> ZM> You can configure eclass override behavior via eclass-overrides in ZM> /etc/portage/repos.conf, as d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-09 Thread James Cloos
ould even be OK were the USE flag off by default; but making it impossible to Do The Right Thing w/o editing eclasses every time one syncs is just wrong. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-09 Thread James Cloos
man.el, woman.el and the like have better UIs than perldoc(1) has. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
. Because man(1) works better than the alternatives; it is the unix way; it is the first thing one types when searching for documentation. The idea that the man pages are somehow uneeded is incomprehensible. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "TV" == Torsten Veller writes: TV> * James Cloos : >> One change the perl eclasses require is elimination of the code which >> deletes the man pages. >> >> Deleting the man pages is /extremely/ rude and should not occur. TV> There

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-06 Thread James Cloos
ure that | your portage tree does not contain a metadata/cache/ directory. ` Which translates into "eclass-orderrides are completely and entirely useless, so don't bother. Portage used to used to search for eclasses starting in the top overlay; it should not have changed. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl eclass review - EAPI=3 + new helper eclass

2010-04-01 Thread James Cloos
ay, that means that every time one syncs one must re-patch the offending eclasses. This would be an excellent time to push a fix to the perl eclasses. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 mask breaks significant science packages

2010-03-20 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "BdG" == Ben de Groot writes: BdG> On 14 March 2010 06:09, James Cloos wrote: >>>>>>> "BdG" == Ben de Groot writes: >> BdG> Abandoned packages do not belong in the portage tree. >> >> Nonsense.  That attit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 mask breaks significant science packages

2010-03-13 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "BdG" == Ben de Groot writes: BdG> Abandoned packages do not belong in the portage tree. Nonsense. That attitude only servers to harm the user base. Leaving them in does not. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-gfx/viewer

2009-12-27 Thread James Cloos
that. As a user, I can only say bullshit to that. Packages should not go away over trivial issues. That is harmful, not helpful. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA last rites for media-gfx/viewer

2009-12-25 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "Diego" == Diego E Pettenò writes: Diego> # Fails to build if /usr/X11R6 is not present (bug #247737, A bit trivial of an issue to drop a package, ja? The QA team should generate more patches and fewer kills. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emacs/ngnus

2009-11-20 Thread James Cloos
lrich> move". But I'd expect users of live ebuilds to be able Ulrich> to figure things out by themselves. I took a look at one of the upates files before repying and noticed a $P or two, not just $PN. But on closer exam I see that those are for slot moves Thanks. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emacs/ngnus

2009-11-18 Thread James Cloos
The app-emacs/ngnus- ebuild is in active use and should not go away. It also should remain in the main tree. (A rename to app-emacs/gnus- is OK, provided it gets mentioned in profiles/updates.) -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-26 Thread James Cloos
g to remove anything which the userbase actively uses. These are not ebuilds which are broken, just ones which, while functional, remain imperfect. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-10-24 Thread James Cloos
When you first psoted this list I noticed some (or several?) live ebuilds. Git- is the one I remember. Those should not get nuked during global cleanups, as they are likely to be in active use notwithstanding their keywording or masking. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-4.4 unmasking soon

2009-08-12 Thread James Cloos
nabled in their gcc-4.4 packages, and I've not found any problems on deb boxen (32 and 64 bit systems on modern chips) either. The USE flag probably ought to be +. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

[gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-07-26 23h59 UTC

2009-07-28 Thread James Cloos
them in the Removals and Additions sections. Obviously the syntax of each line would have to be different; perhaps something like the {old⇒new} syntax would allow each change to be on a single line in a (human+machine)-readable fashion? -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-04-19 23h59 UTC

2009-04-23 Thread James Cloos
Wierd. I must've fat-fingered while reading the list yesterday. I didn't even see the message buffer -JimC

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-04-19 23h59 UTC

2009-04-22 Thread James Cloos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-12-02 Thread James Cloos
his is IMHO debatable; why not just writing it one Diego> package (say kde-base/kde or kde-meta) and just there? Having each Diego> mini-package express itself as having that as its homepage is not very Diego> useful to me, but I guess it's debatable. Searching is an important reason for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-12-02 Thread James Cloos
And, yes, that is an important feature. And, no, openeing every metadata.xml file during update-eix is in no way acceptable. For eix above, of course, read your favourite query tool. -JimC -- James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread James Cloos
If it does move to metadata, it will need to be copied into /var/db on install. It is important information which should not be lost if the package is ever removed from portage. -JimC -- James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-09 Thread James Cloos
a full (and time-consuming) uncompress/compress cycle. -JimC -- James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: some sci-mathematics packages

2008-01-04 Thread James Cloos
just because they are stable is rather questionable. -JimC -- James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: why? pciutils with zlib use-flag went stable on x86

2007-08-09 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "Sven" == Sven Köhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JimC> There are many more ebuilds than just hal which fail with a JimC> compressed pci.ids file. Sven> Oh! Really? Which ones? I didn't keep a list, but Ryan's post lists some packages I re

[gentoo-dev] Re: why? pciutils with zlib use-flag went stable on x86

2007-08-02 Thread James Cloos
request compression of the ids file, and not the zlib flag. -JimC -- James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Overlay commit messages

2007-01-21 Thread James Cloos
>>>>> "Raúl" == Raúl Porcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raúl> Just a off-topic question...do you really read all the mails Raúl> bugzilla sends to you? I scan thru them daily, looking at the subjects, and read any that look interesting. Just like with

[gentoo-dev] Overlay commit messages

2007-01-21 Thread James Cloos
to be more diligent in mentioning the ${CATEGORY}/${PN} in the commit messages. Thank you, -JimC -- James Cloos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites for avifile, vcr, zphoto, drip, divx4linux, quicktime4linux

2005-10-15 Thread James Cloos
> "Luca" == Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Luca> avifile: superseded by ffmpeg, xine and ... mlt. Do they offer all of the cli tools that avifile does? -JimC -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

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