[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: PM support

2010-10-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the PM support. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 5. Get portage-2.1.9* marked stable. As this portage version will fix

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: news item

2010-10-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the news item. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 4. Add the news item about pending .la files removal, pointing to 3 and

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: QA document

2010-10-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the QA document. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 3. Add a page to the QA project space (unless they're not interested)

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: wording about when and how to drop .la files

2010-10-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the wording on when and how to drop .la files. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 2. Get a consensus about the wording of

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files: eutils function

2010-10-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As outlined in the global email about this issue, this email is to start a thread about the eutils function. Please reply to this thread if you have any comments about this point. 1. Add a function to eutils to deal with the removal of the .la fi

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo's plan to remove .la files

2010-10-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As decided in the last council's meeting, following the recent discussions about .la files removal, I'm sending an email to this list with a proposal for a plan to address this issue. My proposal for the plan is the following: 1. Add a function

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for Python 3

2010-10-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29-10-2010 23:24, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2010-10-26 02:45:10 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto napisał(a): >> On 25-10-2010 13:37, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: >>> I would like to suggest that setting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google Code-In: 13-18 year olds in open source

2010-10-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-10-2010 04:19, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Hi all, > We're looking for tasks that would take a student 13-18 years old > roughly 1-3 days to complete. Ideas might include writing man pages, > translating a few webpages, perhaps some relatively st

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changes in server profiles

2010-10-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. On 29-10-2010 11:03, Markos Chandras wrote: > Hi > > I don't know how many of you are using these profiles. I would like to > propose a couple of changes > > 1) I want to drop the warning message located on profile.bashrc files > e.g $PORTDIR/de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: python.eclass

2010-10-25 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25-10-2010 15:13, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2010-10-25 16:31:41 Petteri Räty napisał(a): >> On 10/25/2010 02:54 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis (arfrever) >> wrote: >>> arfrever10/10/25 11:54:19 >>> >>> Modified:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for Python 3

2010-10-25 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25-10-2010 13:37, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > I would like to suggest that setting Python 3.1 as main active version of > Python be officially > supported and recommended for Gentoo developers since 2010-12-01. Majority of > packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-06 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06-10-2010 10:04, David Leverton wrote: > On 6 October 2010 10:20, Luca Barbato wrote: >> We discussed that to death, you are wrong abusing overlinking in your pet >> project and what you were asking for is exactly the as-needed behaviour. > > Cle

[gentoo-dev] .la files and their future on Gentoo

2010-10-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. Given the recent activity around .la files and conflict about how to deal with them, I propose we discuss this issue in this mailing list, and take this issue to the council. That way, we can make a global decision, taking into account all the

Re: [gentoo-dev] .la files removal news item (GLEP 42)

2010-10-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-10-2010 03:01, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 10:20 Sat 02 Oct , Alistair Bush wrote: >> How is this news item going to help ppl in a month from now (till the >> issue is solved in its entirety). Can we reasonably expect a new user >> to be aw

Re: [gentoo-dev] Going inactive

2010-09-27 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel. On 27-09-2010 18:53, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > I've been too busy with other things to work on Gentoo for quite some > time and this isn't going to change now that I've just picked up new > study and work commitments. > > So I'm gonna

Re: [gentoo-dev] Improve devaway system

2010-08-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. On 30-08-2010 16:36, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 08/30/2010 05:14 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Hi there >> >> It seems to me that people paying less and less attention to devaway >> system[1]. As you may see yourselves, few of the entries are 2-3

Re: [gentoo-dev] FOSDEM 2011

2010-08-27 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26-08-2010 12:07, Alex Legler wrote: > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:01:27 +0200, Markus Duft > wrote: > >> booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... >> (is there any interest in it anyway? who could come up with flyers, >> cd

[gentoo-dev] Reassigning packages

2010-08-08 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, following Ioannis extended leave of absence for 1 year, we've reviewed the packages he was maintaining and reassigned them. The following list of packages are now in need of a new maintainer. Any Gentoo Developer willing to maintain them please

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council Agenda 20100809 rev 01

2010-08-08 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08-08-2010 11:28, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:47:42 +0530 > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >>> Uh, it *was* requested for a vote, and the Council decided instead >>> to vote on something else and not upon what was asked. >> >> So you as

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of releng project

2010-08-08 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07-08-2010 21:15, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I have noticed that this list and the gentoo-releng irc channel > have been dead for a very long time, and I remember seeing a post a > while back in which agaffney announced his retirement. Also t

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-proxy/squid needs your love

2010-08-08 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06-08-2010 22:54, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 08:47:36PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >> On 08/04/2010 08:34 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 07:12:18PM +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: On 08/04/2010 02:50 PM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package version in case of upstream patches from stable branch of development

2010-08-04 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04-08-2010 07:56, Peter Volkov wrote: > В Втр, 03/08/2010 в 22:17 +0300, Petteri Räty пишет: >> On 08/03/2010 03:03 PM, Peter Volkov wrote: >>> Bug 330667 requests _p or _pre. I feel that _p|_pre versions >>> should be left for VCS (read developmen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fw: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-backup/bacula: bacula-5.0.2-r2.ebuild ChangeLog

2010-07-23 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23-07-2010 11:37, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:30:02 +0200 > Thomas Beierlein wrote: interesting. I did not know that an ebuild can use-depend on itself. Good to know. >>> >>> No, not good. It doesn't make any sense. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fw: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-backup/bacula: bacula-5.0.2-r2.ebuild ChangeLog

2010-07-23 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23-07-2010 09:31, Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Freitag, den 23.07.2010, 09:06 +0200 schrieb Thomas Beierlein: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi Jorge, >> >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:04:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fw: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-backup/bacula: bacula-5.0.2-r2.ebuild ChangeLog

2010-07-22 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas On 22-07-2010 16:20, Thomas Beierlein wrote: > Did not see the mail here and replied only with p.m. to darkside. > > So please find here teh attached copy to keep the discussion on the > right list. > > Thomas. > > Begin forwarded message

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: autotools-utils.eclass

2010-07-20 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-07-2010 04:55, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Sunday 18 July 2010 04:54:43 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> On 18-07-2010 00:58, Brian Harring wrote: >>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 02:56:05AM +0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: >&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] Upcoming Council meeting on July 26th, 1900 UTC

2010-07-17 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17-07-2010 23:33, Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 01:05:02AM +0300, Alex Alexander wrote: >> The Council will have its next meeting on the 26th of July, 2010. >> >> The meeting will begin at 1900 UTC. >> >> You may use [0] to find out

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: autotools-utils.eclass

2010-07-17 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18-07-2010 00:58, Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 02:56:05AM +0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: >> case ${EAPI:-0} in >> 2|3|4) ;; >> *) DEPEND="EAPI-TOO-OLD" ;; >> esac >> >> why not: >> >> case ${EAPI:-0} in >> 0|1) DEPEND=

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 14/7 introductory meeting

2010-07-12 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. The new Gentoo Council will hold a special introductory meeting this Wednesday, 14/7 at 19H00 UTC. A regular meeting will be held on Monday 26/7 at 19H00 UTC. We'll be sending in the next few days an email about that meeting, so please don't reply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-07-2010 21:56, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi Doug. >> > Jorge, > > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [bugzilla-dae...@gentoo.org: [Bug 322157] [mail-filter/procmail] new ebuild + autocreate maildirs]

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nirbheek, thanks for writing such a well thought-out and comprehensive reply to Enrico. I agree with all the points you raised. On 11-07-2010 10:28, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: >> * Nirbheek Chauh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug. On 11-07-2010 16:03, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: >> On 07/11/2010 08:02 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> >>> If I really need to go to the council with every change, considering >>> it must be deb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Minor changes in python.eclass and distutils.eclass

2010-07-05 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05-07-2010 15:23, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > These minor changes in python.eclass and distutils.eclass have been already > reviewed on alias of Gentoo Python Project. It's recommended to be familiar > with internals of current code

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto for jmbsvicetto

2010-06-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Theo. On 29-06-2010 11:49, Theo Chatzimichos wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto > wrote: >> Please feel free to ask any questions you'd like to be answered. > > 1) Is it possible an elect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto for jmbsvicetto

2010-06-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sebastian. On 29-06-2010 20:06, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Hello Jorge, > > > I stumbled upon this in the section on community related beliefs of > yours: > > "[T]he Gentoo community is made of its members and they are what > they are. We have a m

[gentoo-dev] Council manifesto for jmbsvicetto

2010-06-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. With my apologies for being late, you can find my manifesto for the current Council election in woodpecker[1]. Please feel free to ask any questions you'd like to be answered. [1] - http://dev.gentoo.org/~jmbsvicetto/council201006-manifesto.xml

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-19 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19-06-2010 17:40, Richard Freeman wrote: > On 06/19/2010 01:06 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> On 19-06-2010 16:15, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >>> #gentoo-infra is a channel on infra matters. >>> The fact that i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-19 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19-06-2010 16:15, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Jeremy, > > > On 06/19/10 06:45, Jeremy Olexa wrote: >> On 06/18/2010 09:25 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> >>>In #gentoo-infra >> >> #gentoo-infra is a private channel and you don't have to be in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-18 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19-06-2010 02:25, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Hello. > > As some people seem to be interested in examples of out of the line tone > in Gentoo I feel like sharing an example just happened a few minutes ago: > > In #gentoo-infra people are talking

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-16 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17-06-2010 00:17, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Jorge, > > > On 06/17/10 02:01, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> There was a mostly silent agreement between some teams, including >> DevRel, UserRel, Council and Trustees,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel

2010-06-16 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17-06-2010 00:00, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Hello! > > > yngwin's devaway message still reads > > "inactive, pending resolution of devrel issue". > > yngwin retired. I woudn't go as far as saying that his case made him > retire but I definit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-16 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16-06-2010 05:03, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> Could it be we expect perfection from each other instead seeking to >> understand and complement each other? What can we do to make Gentoo a >> fri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-16 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16-06-2010 16:39, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > On 6/16/10 5:33 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: >> - With these Code of Conduct rules in place how come DevRel >>is not publicly reminding of these rules where necessary? > > I think the initiative i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving unmaintained packages to Sunrise

2010-06-13 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13-06-2010 08:41, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > There are some packages which were 'readded' to the Sunrise overlay > after lying unmaintained in the tree for a long time and finally being > removed. One example could be net-im/ekg2 for removal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-07 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05-06-2010 11:12, Anders Hellgren wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jun 2010, Torsten Veller wrote: > >> Hello fellow developers and users. >> >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next >> two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2010). >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-05 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05-06-2010 13:19, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On Saturday 05 of June 2010 02:00:02 Torsten Veller wrote: >> Hello fellow developers and users. >> >> Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2010/2011 are now open for the next >> two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 1

Re: Notify people about empty herds (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] FTR: media-opti...@g.o has no developers)

2010-06-03 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03-06-2010 14:44, Markos Chandras wrote: > all the gnome-* herds look obsolete to me. It should be like kde and use > only one alias. Further more the comm-fax could be merged with a net-* > alias, and all the desktop-* could be merged in one herd.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council 201006 elections

2010-06-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-06-2010 08:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wednesday, June 02, 2010 04:11:26 Torsten Veller wrote: >> * Mike Frysinger : >>> On Monday, May 31, 2010 22:46:50 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >>>> Here are the

[gentoo-dev] Council 201006 elections

2010-05-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello fellow developers and remaining community. We've arrived at that time of the year again in which we elect a new Council into office. Here are the details for the Council 201006 elections: * nominations: June 5th to 18th * voting: June 20th to

[gentoo-dev] Does anyone use the VERIFIED status in bugzilla?

2010-05-14 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. Following Petteri's thread last month about RESOLVED LATER and given a issue that has been reported to User Relations about the "ab"use of the VERIFIED status in Bugzilla, I'd like to get some feedback from fellow developers. We have a user that h

Re: [gentoo-dev] ccache causing problems

2010-04-29 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29-04-2010 22:16, Rémi Cardona wrote: > Le 29/04/2010 09:06, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." a écrit : >> What actions would you suggest? > > Don't use ccache. We (speaking as a former gnome herd member) have had > countless unexplained bugs due to ccache. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Requiring two sets of eyes for all eclass commits

2010-04-25 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25-04-2010 13:10, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 04/26/2010 01:42 AM, Alistair Bush wrote: >>> On 04/24/2010 09:14 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:40:54 +0300 Petteri Räty wrote: > 17:34 < Betelgeuse> robbat2|na: how e

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Disabling some of our Mail Lists

2010-04-21 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-04-2010 04:59, Vincent Launchbury wrote: > On 04/20/10 22:52, Jeremy Olexa wrote: >> Hello, >> As suggested in bug 291860, I am heading up an infra cleanup project to >> disable/close some mailing lists. Since the list is quite large, I want >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy regarding the inactive members

2010-04-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-04-2010 13:16, Markos Chandras wrote: > Hello folks, > > Looking through the Council project page, the policy regarding the inactive > council members doesn't look optimal to me As others have already explained, this is from GLEP39 and it has

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-10 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10-04-2010 13:35, George Prowse wrote: > On 10/04/2010 05:10, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 01:19:32AM +0200, Ben de Groot wrote: >>> On 3 April 2010 20:56, George Prowse wrote: Does mediawiki have captcha ability? >>> >>> Ye

Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead?

2010-04-10 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Allo. On 10-04-2010 14:09, Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote: > Le samedi 10 avril 2010 15:53:48, Petteri Räty a écrit : >> As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take >> action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] recruitment process

2010-04-05 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05-04-2010 18:26, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 04:07:01PM +, Jon Portnoy wrote: > There should be a process of weeding out developers that bitch and/or whine, > but if most of the teams are understaffed then there has

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-04 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03-04-2010 13:19, Ben de Groot wrote: < A proposal for a Gentoo WIKI that generated much replies> I have the following general comments about this thread. * I congratulate everyone involved on this that is so motivated to create a new option for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo dying?

2010-04-04 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04-04-2010 04:50, Dale wrote: > I felt sorry for the KDE folks when KDE4 was released. It just had > to be a nightmare to get all that in the tree at once. If they had > twice as many people working on it tho, it would have been easier. The > peo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should we disable RESOLVED LATER from bugzilla?

2010-04-03 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03-04-2010 09:50, Petteri Räty wrote: > I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just > means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a > different resolution should be used. So what do you think about > di

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Google Apps Standard Edition @ gentoo.org

2010-03-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31-03-2010 23:49, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > On 04/01/10 01:09, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> your logic does not lead to the statement that gentoo-core is the >> appropriate >> place. > > point takes, it's not the non-technical nature - i should put

Re: [gentoo-dev] Empty herd: sgml

2010-03-21 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-03-2010 11:41, Thomas Sachau wrote: > I see, that the sgml herd seems to be empty for a longer time, so i would > like to ask, if someone > wants to take that herd and the related ebuilds and bugs over or if we should > delete that herd and > a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Updating project pages to remove retired developers

2010-03-21 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Hello again. On 21-03-2010 16:26, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello. > > I've just committed an update to the project pages to remove retired > developers (I left alone historical pages such as > gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/userrel/soc/archives/). The diff is attache

[gentoo-dev] Updating project pages to remove retired developers

2010-03-21 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Hello. I've just committed an update to the project pages to remove retired developers (I left alone historical pages such as gentoo/xml/htdocs/proj/en/userrel/soc/archives/). The diff is attached to this email so project members can check it. As I'm not a member of the cvstrans group (thanks Pett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-12 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12-03-2010 20:47, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 08:11:50PM +, Jeremy Olexa wrote: >> >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:18:03 +0200, Petteri R??ty >> wrote: >>> There seems to be two different schools on who to assign a keywording >>> b

Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata.xml:

2010-03-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01-03-2010 06:39, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Friday 26 February 2010 18:40:47 Alec Warner wrote: >> You mistake the intent I think. We deploy automation because humans >> fail; even when they have the best intentions. We make typos, copy >> and p

[gentoo-dev] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat results (council200912)

2010-01-17 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Hello fellow devs, users and Gentoo community, in this election we received 87 valid ballots from a total of 260 voters, which means we had a 33.462% turnout. Without much ado, Tomas Chvatal (scarabeus) was elected to the council. The full ranked list for this election is: scarabeus patrick wired

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-01-2010 21:25, Dawid Węgliński wrote: > On Friday 15 January 2010 20:44:43 Alex Legler wrote: >>> /var/lib/layman >>> >>> do well? >> >> +1 >> > -1, /usr/local/layman? Wouldn't that break the rule that /usr/local is reserved for users / admins

[gentoo-dev] Re: Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat - nominations closed and voting delayed 24 hours

2010-01-10 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello again. > > The nominations for the empty seat in the Council were closed 20 hours > ago. All the details about this election can be found in the Council > Elections Archives[1]. The information about the nominees can be seen in > the 200912 n

[gentoo-dev] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat - nominations closed and voting delayed 24 hours

2009-12-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello again. The nominations for the empty seat in the Council were closed 20 hours ago. All the details about this election can be found in the Council Elections Archives[1]. The information about the nominees can be seen in the 200912 nominees[2] pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Qt3 deprecation and removal policy

2009-12-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31-12-2009 13:10, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Thursday 31 of December 2009 14:43:54 Mark Bateman wrote: >> Ben de Groot gentoo.org> writes: >>> As announced 5 months ago[1], Gentoo's Qt team now officially >>> deprecates usage of x11-libs/qt:3 and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-20 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-12-2009 15:13, David Abbott wrote: >> To nominate anyone for the empty seat, please send an email to the >> gentoo-dev ml. Anyone can nominate for the Council, but only current >> Gentoo Developers can stand for and vote in the election. > > I n

[gentoo-dev] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. As announced by Denis (Calchan)[1], we need to have an election for the Gentoo Council's empty seat. We'll be putting up a page with all the information for the Council election, including the election officials, asap. I'll send another email l

[gentoo-dev] Election for the Gentoo Council empty seat

2009-12-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. As announced by Denis (Calchan)[1], we need to have an election for the Gentoo Council's empty seat. We'll be putting up a page with all the information for the Council election, including the election officials, asap. I'll send another email l

Re: [gentoo-dev] client/server consistency: USE flags / split packages

2009-11-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> Hi. How do we handle packages that provide client, server, and >> possibly extra tools/libraries? Do we split packages like binary >> distros do or do we use USE flags? What USE flags? Currently some >> pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] repoman complains about a ebuild in the tree

2009-09-13 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrey Grozin wrote: > Hello *, > > I am fixing a bug (#284080) in a ebuild > (sci-visualization/mayavi-3.3.0). I have a fix that installs on my > box fine, all deps are satisfied. I try to commit it, but repoman > issues a lot of errors like > > RDEPE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Major problems in the tree in the last month

2009-08-23 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Torsten Veller wrote: >> * Andrew D Kirch : >> >>> This should really be a non-issue. I just spent 2 days dealing with >>> being 3.5 weeks out of date. >>> >> To help us improve the user experience, what were the proble

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Diff between Funtoo and Gentoo as an overlay

2009-08-22 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 08/22/2009 06:40 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> Huh? This is true of all overlays. > > Not the ones I'm using. Have you ever used the X11, GNOME or KDE teams overlays? Most of the overlays around

[gentoo-dev] laptop and pm-utils use flags

2009-08-16 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. During the course of bug 280312[1], we (KDE team) made the pm-utils support in powerdevil optional based on a use flag. Although hal was already using the "laptop" use flag for similar support, we decided to use the "pm-utils" use flag as wicd was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About time to unify 'cdda' and 'cdaudio' USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-22 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El mié, 22-07-2009 a las 18:45 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: >> Lars Wendler wrote: >>> Let's finally move on regarding this topic. As I'm also in favour of >>> the "cdda" USE flag I'd like to know if there's any objection agai

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] repo_name/layman-global.txt overlay name mismatches

2009-07-11 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Hello! > > > Intro > > For the gentoo-specific part of smolt [1] that's in the making we > collect stats on what package is installed and what overlay it comes > from. Which tree/overlay it came from is determi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alright, seeing that things are getting out of hand again, let me reply as a member of the userrel team. Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:55:02 -0600 > Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran >> McCreesh wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Manifesto archive

2009-07-03 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Hi Torsten. Torsten Veller wrote: > * "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" : >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council/2009/council-200906-nominees.xml > > Please archive the manifestos somewhere under the project space > like it was done the last years. > L

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
I'm forwarding Roy's email to the dev-announce ml for reaching the wider community and for future reference. Roy Bamford wrote: > All, > > On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be > composed of:- > > Ned Ludd (solar) > Petteri Räty (betelgeuse) >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > Alec Warner wrote: >>> What I'd like to see for sure is a formal rule on who can decide to >>> modify or change parts of glep 39. As it's the council's constitution >>> somehow, we have two options from my pov (besides that a former council >>> did decide the council itsel

[gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections - < 44 hours left to vote

2009-06-28 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Hello. This is a remainder that the voting for this Council's election will end at 23:59:59 UTC June 30rd - which means in less than 44 hours. At the moment, we have 101 casted votes which means ~ 41% of attendance. If you haven't voted yet, please hurry to your booth located at woodpecker. You ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
ndrew D Kirch wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> > I move that we elect George W Bush and Ciaran McCreesh Council Members > For Life. > Are these people serious? > > Andrew Andrew, I've chosen to reply to this particular mail, but this applies to your other mails in th

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - _reopen_nominations candidate

2009-06-21 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. Due to an oversight on my part, the _reopen_nominations candidate was not initially added to the ballots for the council200906 election. This has now been fixed. If you have already voted, please add it (if you want to) to your ballot. I suggest v

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi again. Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). The "voting booth" has now

[gentoo-dev] [Fwd: 2009 council nominations]

2009-06-14 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Hi. I'm forwarding Ned's (solar) mail accepting his nomination for the council. -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / SPARC / KDE --- Begin Message --- As I'm not subscribed to the getnoo-dev mailing list but rather make use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-14 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Hello fellow developers and users. > > Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next > two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). Nominations are now closed. An email with fur

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-07 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Anderson wrote: ... ... please remember to vote for gentoofan23, not tanderson(irc nick). ;-) > > Regards, > Thomas This is why everyone should verify their votes when submitting them. Don't forget to run: $ votify --verify If you use a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Old eclasses - candidates for removal?

2009-06-05 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Ulrich Mueller wrote: ... >> A quick scan shows that the following eclasses were deprecated more >> than three years ago, and are used by no ebuild in the tree: >> >>2002-05-25 inherit.eclass >>2003-12-11 kde-i18n.ecla

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-05-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ If you want to ask a question or share your thoughts, contact any of the election officials: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) Łukasz Damentko (rane) Roy Bamford (neddyseagoon) Shyam Mani (fox2mike) will be doing infra magic. You can send us an e-mail (g

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 17:00 -0700 schrieb Josh Saddler: >> AllenJB wrote: >>> I'd favor tags over increasing the category >>> levels, tho I'm not convinced either is necessary at the current time >>> (tho tags might make

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-17 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sun, 17 May 2009, Denis Dupeyron wrote: > >> 2009/5/17 Piotr Jaroszyñski : > >>> 1. EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (obviously) >>> 2. EAPI in the filename with one-time extension change >>> 3. Easily fetchable EAPI inside the e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries - KDE team sumary

2009-05-10 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > any project lead/member can post an answer to this mail for a status > > report: > > Hi. Gentoo KDE team status report. Current: - We have a Lead again (me). It happened on FOSDEM, so it might have been

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed email - Dropping old kde3 eclasses from the tree

2009-05-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> Hi. >> >> As the KDE team prepares to add revised eclasses for the KDE3 ebuilds so >> we can get 3.5.10 marked stable and then finally ask for KDE4 >> stabiliz

[gentoo-dev] proposed email - Dropping old kde3 eclasses from the tree

2009-05-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. As the KDE team prepares to add revised eclasses for the KDE3 ebuilds so we can get 3.5.10 marked stable and then finally ask for KDE4 stabilization, we'd like to drop some old eclasses from the tree. We plan to drop the kde-base, kde-dist, kde-i1

[gentoo-dev] [undertakers] Packages with updated metadata.xml

2009-03-23 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. Following this month processing of the retirement batch, the following packages had their metadata.xml updated to remove all maintainers that were retired. If you are a maintainer or a member of a herd listed in these packages, you may want to rev

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