Re: [gentoo-dev] Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-10 Thread Patrick McLean
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > This, for me, triggers 3 questions that are gentoo-dev@ material : > > 1) Should all ebuilds that currently filter --fast-math die on its > presence instead of filtering it ? I don't think we should die on anything, if a user wants a particular CFLAG, generally the default

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-05 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would like to nominate: vapier/SpanKY flameeyes Kugelfang uberlord wolf31o2 seemant solar Mr_Bones_ KingTaco I would add dsd and spyderous if they hadn't both already turned down nominations. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-05 Thread Patrick McLean
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > Anyway, I really am starting to like the DVD available via the store > idea more and more, as it only means Release Engineering needs to do a > little extra work, and it requires no extra work for our mirrors or > Infrastructure team. > The source DVD sounds like a gr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > Patrick McLean schrieb: >> I have absolutely zero experience with catalyst, but couldn't it be made >> to create a source CD ISO when it is generating the binary one? Just >> make a cd with all the dist

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-04 Thread Patrick McLean
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 11:12 +, Duncan wrote: >>> For example, if we hand out CDs at conventions etc, we would have to >>> also hand out source CDs. > >> As my reply there, however, Gentoo does still have it better than most, in >> that the LiveCDs contain relatively f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A heretical thought? Blessing project sunrise as an almost-fork.

2006-06-15 Thread Patrick McLean
Peter wrote: > Maybe I just don't :( >> e17 doesnt break the whole system > > Any alpha software can. Read the warning label. e17 has caused me to hit > the big red switch on several occasions. > Then you have a bug in your kernel (or possibly your video driver). It should be impossible for any

Re: [gentoo-dev] client+server packages - build which one?

2006-06-09 Thread Patrick McLean
Roy Marples wrote: > USE client server > client - just build the client - duh > server - just build the server - duh > client and server OR neither then build both. > > Other packages to possably beneift > udhcp > mldonkey > samhain > bacula > boxbackup > finger, telnet and ssh are probably other

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Patrick McLean
Chris Bainbridge wrote: > On 08/06/06, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I do very much object to using any gentoo.org infrastructure or >> subdomains to do so. If someone is going to tackle that, it should be >> done outside of Gentoo proper. We don't need to be stuck maintaining and >> su

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-05 Thread Patrick McLean
Stefan Schweizer wrote: > -fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc? I am not on the toolchain team, but I _think_ the reason this is on by default is because fortran is considered part of a standard gcc installation (by upstream, etc). -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailin

Re: [gentoo-dev] et_EE locale and language of error messages

2006-05-19 Thread Patrick McLean
> No, it's needlessly unfriendly to users, and encourages broken packages. > et_EE breakage should be fixed, and slowly but surely is, and as for > unreadable error messages, getting German gcc output in a German locale > is a feature, not a bug. It can indeed be a problem in bugreports, but > it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-18 Thread Patrick McLean
Christian Birchinger wrote: > > I honestly think people are just bringing up the wildest things > just to find another reason to say "no". It Looks a bit like > even good ideas and project have no chance when they come from > "the wrong people". > Thank you, you just summed up what I have been th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Patrick McLean
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 23:22 +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote: > > This is the exact reason why I would disagree with having this profile > in the tree. It *is* going to cause more work for bug-wranglers, no > matter how many places you put warnings and notices. If the profi

Re: [gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Nichols wrote: > Patrick McLean wrote: >> There is a new version at >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~chutzpah/profile.bashrc that >> should fix all these possible problems. Thanks for pointing them out, > Around line 77, y

Re: [gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Harald van D?k wrote: > The only flags that are actually removed are the flags that are invalid > _by themselves_. There are cases where flags are valid because of other > flags, such as anything following -X*. > > Two other problems I see with the cod

Re: [gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: > > Except you need a way for them to turn it off, and you do not currently > provide one. We can set default flags all we want, but I don't see > filtering 'bad' flags as necessarily our problem. If you want to say: > > "Hey we

[gentoo-dev] automatically killing invalid CFLAGS/warning about bad CFLAGS

2006-04-13 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For about a month now, we (amd64) have had some code in our profile.bashrc that filters CFLAGS that are unrecognized by gcc, and warnings the user about bad CFLAGS. So far it has worked fairly well, and it has really cut down on the number of bugs tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Open Office on x86_64

2006-04-05 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dennis Allison wrote: > Open office appears to be masked (amd64). Who would I ask to find out the > current status? > OpenOffice doesn't currently compile on 64-bit architectures, you can use openoffice-bin, which is a 32-bit binary, on amd64 for no

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-lisp/plt

2006-04-03 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have masked dev-lisp/plt pending removal in 30 days. This has been unmaintained for awhile (no metadata.xml) and a newer version of the same package is in the tree as dev-scheme/drscheme. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-28 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fernando J. Pereda wrote: > On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 06:39:15AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: >> git : c+bash (and optional perl/python for some merge scripts) I think git is probably the best choice, I have played with it a little myself and it is _very_

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bugzilla etiquette suggestions

2006-02-13 Thread Patrick McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:39:06 +0100 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Are you being serious about this? > > Sadly, even if he is, there're enough people around here that're taking > that kind of thought seriously

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-30 Thread Patrick McLean
Mark Loeser wrote: Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Jason Stubbs wrote: The patch now has the debugging output and x11-base/xorg-x11 check removed. Excellent. Works perfectly. Since we're failing on them, perhaps we can say "obsolete" instead of "deprecated"? Can we put this back to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Patrick Mclean

2006-01-23 Thread Patrick McLean
Olivier Crete wrote: On Mon, 2006-23-01 at 11:21 -0600, Mike Doty wrote: I am currently working as a systems administrator for McGill University School of Computer Science, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. I live with my girlfriend in an apartment in the east of Montreal. Hey, I'm not longer the only

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Manifest2 format

2005-12-06 Thread Patrick McLean
You know, I'd actually support a rather more abrupt transition, where we announce that on a particular date all digest files are going to be removed, thereby breaking any version of portage older than portage-x.y.z. Many people would probably miss such a deadline, but assuming that we also public

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Patrick McLean
Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 09:09:29PM -0400, Luis F. Araujo wrote: What is the problem of giving them @g.o addresses? Why exactly do we need the distinction? (sorry, i can't see any benefit but more confusion). The GLEP was originally created to help the architecture test

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