On Saturday, 15 February 2020 3:14:55 AM AEDT Matt Turner wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 12:31 AM Sam Jorna (wraeth)
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> > In this instance, at least two people (myself included) have drawn an
> > impression that led them to voice their concern in some way (I'm unsur
On Friday, 14 February 2020 2:21:32 PM AEDT Matt Turner wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:12 AM Mike Pagano wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 06:46:43PM +1100, Sam Jorna (wraeth) wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 13 February 2020 5:40:46 AM AEDT Matt Turner wrote:
> > > >
On Thursday, 13 February 2020 5:40:46 AM AEDT Matt Turner wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:59 AM William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 06:54:19PM +1100, Sam Jorna (wraeth) wrote:
> > > On Monday, 10 February 2020 7:55:01 AM AEDT Michał Górny wrote:
> > > &g
;we' really need to read your useless comments
> everywhere, all the time and just get irritated for no benefit to
> Gentoo?
Perhaps I'm the one being ignorant here, but why are we lambasting someone for
seeking clarification about an unusual inclusion on a review thread?
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On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 02:57:19PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
>The whitelist automatically whitelists all @[2]gentoo.org addresses.
I think those who have editbugs would also be good candidates for
implicit whitelisting as well.
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t, since
they would obviously be in a position to actually test. Though, I'm not
sure how viable it is to have someone maintaining functionality to
support a patchset that the majority of us cannot access...
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Hi All;
Due to not having as much time as I'd hoped, media-tv/tvheadend is being
dropped to maintainer-needed.
It has two open bugs[0,1], both of which have been reassigned.
[0]: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=633774
[1]: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639958
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On 11/08/17 03:08, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> Lets go down this rabbit hole.
Let's not.
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On 10/08/17 11:42, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:50:45 +1000
> "Sam Jorna (wraeth)" wrote:
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>> On 10/08/17 06:35, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>> FYI binpkgs have no hash. If someone did something malicious within
>>> the
On 10/08/17 11:47, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:25:34 +1000
> "Sam Jorna (wraeth)" wrote:
>
>> On 09/08/17 10:43, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>> Also your redistributing another's package
>>> in binary format which may
ministrator,
not Gentoo (as a distro), it remains with the administrator to adhere to
any relevant license restrictions. Plus the package manager can't tell
if you're distributing binaries or not.
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package Manifest file works within a repository.
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On 09/08/17 10:43, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:29:40 +1000
> "Sam Jorna (wraeth)" wrote:
>
>> On 09/08/17 04:20, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:32:48 +0200
>>> Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
>>
e installed it, rather than extracting
whatever upstream supplies verbatim. This includes things like any
wrappers, desktop files or symlinks created by the ebuild, or other such
downstream-isms.
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ry. Should we always use ${PF}
instead, or are some instances of ${PN} reasonable?
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On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 10:44:58PM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 10:28:31 +1000
> Sam Jorna wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't it make more sense to make Gentoo *more* attractive to run in
> > corporate environments, rather than simply saying &quo
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 03:59:36PM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 23:10:35 +1000
> "Sam Jorna (wraeth)" wrote:
>
> > On 28 July 2017 8:44:20 PM AEST, "Andreas K. Huettel"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >That&#x
On 28 July 2017 8:44:20 PM AEST, "Andreas K. Huettel"
wrote:
>Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2017, 01:22:44 CEST schrieb Peter Stuge:
>>
>> I hold a perhaps radical view: I would like to simply remove stable.
>>
>> I continue to feel that maintaining two worlds (stable+unstable)
>> carries with it an
vers.net
> fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3
+1
Given the length restriction and the requirement to include
category/package, adding a bug reference doesn't leave much space for a
useful description.
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> that system units move from /usr/lib/system/system to
> /lib/system/system as you upgrade/re-install packages; this is normal.
> Units will function properly from both locations.
s:/lib/system:&d:
> As always, if you run into problems, please report a bug.
Otherwise, lgtm.
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/apg-2.3.0b-r5...
> Clearly you are having a hard time grasping this very simple concept.
> I am done, reply if you like, but this thread is serious noise now...
Clearly, hence why I was trying to understand what difference your
proposal offered. But since we're moving on to seriou
On 12/07/17 16:06, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:49:14 +1000
> "Sam Jorna (wraeth)" wrote:
>>
>> I have trouble remembering what I ate for dinner last night, let alone
>> what I may or may not have merged a week, month or year ago, or w
On 12/07/17 15:36, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:19:32 +1000
> "Sam Jorna (wraeth)" wrote:
>
>> On 12/07/17 15:14, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>> Is it in system?
>>> Is it in a set?
>>> Is it in world?
>>
may not be a dependency, may or may not have been --oneshot'd.
It may have been installed as a dependency but the requiring package was
removed, or may have been installed as an orphan but is now a
dependency. Assuming that if it's not in a set it must be a dependency
is incorrect and misleading.
like system,
> profile, and set files.
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624630
My point was that --unmerge is not intended to be dependency-aware.
--depclean is. As far as I can tell, that is the point others have been
trying to make as well, when pointing out the differences between -c and -C.
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r those taking a hammer to a
problem or with a particular desire to recover a broken system.
Again, it's doing exactly what it's supposed to - removing a package
you've told it to remove (unless it's one of the few
almost-always-critical packages).
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reventing
stabilisation of packages with some known issue. Therefore packages with
known issues don't get stabilised automatically.
Similarly, if the maintainer believes more comprehensive testing should
be done (eg. for critical base-system packages) a note could be made
somewhere of that requirement (metadata.xml?), meaning significantly
reduced workload for people like ago (if the maintainer doesn't
stabilise it beforehand).
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On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:47:19AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On pon, 2017-05-22 at 11:52 +1000, Sam Jorna wrote:
> > On 18/05/17 02:38, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > > Since proxy-maint refuses to be removed from packages (especially since
> > > they
> > > were u
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 06:12:54AM +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On 05/22/2017 03:52 AM, Sam Jorna wrote:
> > On 18/05/17 02:38, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> >> Since proxy-maint refuses to be removed from packages (especially since
> >> they
> >> were unconditiona
's in the tree with examples, including a few
for which you are one of the maintainers.
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On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 09:11:20PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Sam Jorna wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 12:00:51PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> >
> >> >
d users break their
egg in their quest for an omelette?
How is this different (for example, not pointing fingers) from
dev-lang/python[threads] being forced because it's broken without it
(therefore critical functionality)?
Disclaimer: not trying to be argumentative, just trying understand the
arguments. :)
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On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:26:20PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 02/02/2017 09:22 PM, Sam Jorna wrote:
> >
> > Also, how would this work with local USE flags as opposed to global
> > flags? Would they be acceptable to have IUSE defaults?
> >
>
> Exactly t
On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:06:33PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 02/02/2017 09:00 PM, Sam Jorna wrote:
> >
> > Consider: a new user, coming from Ubuntu or Fedora or Windows, starts
> > building their system. They start installing packages they want, only to
>
nabled, but I see the end
goal as helping the users who need the help most (not to discount more
advanced users, but they are more likely to *want* to tweak than one for
whom this is their first CLI).
That's my two cents, at least.
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pendencies won't need to be
explicitly unmasked.
You may end up with gentoo.git-provided packages coming from the overlay
if they have newer versions, though when talking about graveyard, that
shouldn't be an issue.
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h mgorny and Amynka!
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lease retain authorship of
> contributed patches," in light of which it might be cool if we could get
> the author's name listed above rather than the committer (when the
> author is not a developer).
+1
I imagine it shouldn't be too hard to get the Author attribute of a
given commit rather than Committer.
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 02:35:28PM +1100, Sam Jorna wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 09:34:21AM +0700, gro...@gentoo.org wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> > > On 12/11/2016 03:13 PM, gro...@gentoo.org wrote:
> > >> gpg: signing failed:
ommit succeeded.
I was also getting some odd issues with commit signing, though it seemed
to settle for me when I switched to pinentry-curses (since I use
awesome), so I figured it was probably a local issue. Perhaps there's a
wider problem here?
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the mails? I can test post, if that is
> helpful?
I can see you've posted something to the list just now.
If you need to reconfigure your settings so it mails you, send a mail to
gentoo-proxy-maint+h...@lists.gentoo.org to see [0]options.
[0] https://www.gentoo.org/get-involved/mailing-lists/instructions.html
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The links to the quizzes are [1]here.
[0]
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Recruiters#What_does_the_recruitment_process_involve.3F
[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Recruiters#Current_quizzes
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On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 01:17:54PM +1100, Sam Jorna wrote:
> have a look at the new [0]Mentors project, or even send a mail to -dev
I forgot the link, sorry:
[0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Mentors
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your quizzes to, they would go to your mentor. If
you don't have a mentor, try approaching a developer with whom you've
been working and see if they will be able to. Alternatively, you can
have a look at the new [0]Mentors project, or even send a mail to -dev
asking for one.
I look forward to having another contributor among the ranks. :)
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But that's just my two cents. :)
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message itself).
Amending commits that are not the tip of your local clone will probably
need an interactive rebase though (but I could be wrong about that).
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are still a lot of bugs and PR's to be done, so
we would welcome any new members wishing to help facilitate user
contributions!
[0] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers/Managing_Requests
[1]
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers/Maintainer_Bugs_and_Maintainership
Even excepting the significant technical issues such as dependencies and
security issues, even something as simple as versioning, if interpreted
differently between users, could prove difficult to overcome.
Not to mention SLOTting...
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packages that people want actively
maintained to be picked up, and still leaves the rest available in the
overlay outside of gentoo.git so they don't cause any major dramas.
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# Sam Jorna (24 May 2016)
# Deprecated in favour of sci-geosciences/qmapshack.
# See bugs 561788 and 582262
# Masked for removal in 30 days.
sci-geosciences/qlandkartegt
sci-geosciences/qlandkartegt-garmindev
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audience; userland
As far as I know, users (as in non-maintainers - those out "in the wild")
can file keyword request bugs and it's up to the maintainer to then
determine relevancy and CC appropriate arch teams; and Bugzilla has a
voting feature[0] allowing users to indicate the strength of community
demand by voting on those bugs (which I have seen done previously).
[0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#votes
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>
> 4 lines of which 3 are redundant and simply re-codify existing behaviour.
Unless you define DOCS and include the default documents, which is an additional
78 characters on one line (excluding any potential globbing, and assuming all
default files are wanted).
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a number of gen-b0rk repo test ebuilds.
>
> Coacher for the recent testing, bug reports and patches.
> And anyone else I missed ;)
Thank you to everyone involved! :)
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On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 10:57:44AM +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
> On 05/04/2016 10:52 AM, Sam Jorna wrote:
> > On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 10:00:05AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 4 May 2016, Austin English wrote:
> >>
> >>&
nit scripts that are installed from
> FILESDIR, but you will miss the ones that are installed from a file
> in SRC_URI.
Perhaps an alternate way to do it would be to have a QA check look at
any files installed to ${D}etc/init.d/ and throw a warning if their
shebang is "#!/sbin/runscript"
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On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 08:57:52AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> Just FYI, we're talking about upstream maintainer elements which do not take
> part in bug assignment.
Ah, yes, I missed that; though it may have been done as something related to
that - just putting it out there.
Chee
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 02:52:24PM +1000, Sam Jorna wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 05:47:43PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 08:13:34 + (UTC)
> > "Patrice Clement" wrote:
> >
> > > commit: 4f2477ca1ab07969bae57e7b47e8b7a5ba
Proxy Maintainers project decided that the inclusion of the
element was superfluous and that the ordering of
elements was sufficient for determining bug assignment/CC'ing based on the
bug-wranglers policy[0] (which does not explicitly mention ).
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