Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
Your suggestions are ideal and don't get to personal, thanks for the feedback and corrections. On Jan 18, 2008 8:54 PM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:20:08 -0500: > > > one question regarding children that I see as being appropriate is: > > > > Do children in your household use Gentoo? > >> Yes > >> No > >> It's to complicated for them > >> Prefer not to answer > > s/children/others/, thus including spouses, kids, parents, housemates, > etc. That's not so personal and more useful an answer IMO. > > But more useful without getting quite so personal in relationship > implication: > > How many others in your household use Gentoo? > > 0 > > 1-2 > > 3+ > > Prefer not to answer > > What ages are they (mark all that apply)? > > 0-10 > > 11-18 > > 19-30 > > 30-50 > > 51+ > > None or prefer not to answer > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > -- > > gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:20:08 -0500: > one question regarding children that I see as being appropriate is: > > Do children in your household use Gentoo? >> Yes >> No >> It's to complicated for them >> Prefer not to answer s/children/others/, thus including spouses, kids, parents, housemates, etc. That's not so personal and more useful an answer IMO. But more useful without getting quite so personal in relationship implication: How many others in your household use Gentoo? > 0 > 1-2 > 3+ > Prefer not to answer What ages are they (mark all that apply)? > 0-10 > 11-18 > 19-30 > 30-50 > 51+ > None or prefer not to answer -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:56:36AM +, Steve Long wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: >> I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and children >> are a bit too private. >> > ++ in general although I do think parenthood (if responsible) is as relevant > as age. A 28 year old with a 5 year old kid has a lot to show a 35 year old > doctoral student with no kids, even if it's not all technical. # of kids > isn't relevant. Judging the maturity of users (or devs) by how many children they have (or indeed *if* they have children) is pretty questionable. I know people who have kids and are pretty irresponsible (that's not to say most are, but one does not guarantee the other). And I'd argue that someone with children does not necessarily have "a lot to show" someone without kids, unless it is the specific experience of childrearing. There are many people (myself and my wife included) who choose consciously not to have children. It is becoming more and more a *choice* people can legitimately make rather than just an assumed part of life. It is not selfish or immature, as some people think, so I'd be careful about implying that such a question gauges maturity. -Joe -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:56:36AM +, Steve Long wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and children > > are a bit too private. > > > ++ in general although I do think parenthood (if responsible) is as relevant > as age. A 28 year old with a 5 year old kid has a lot to show a 35 year old > doctoral student with no kids, even if it's not all technical. # of kids > isn't relevant. I put # of kids in there as a lark, perhaps it might be better as 'do you have children', with an eye to seeing how it affects their package choices - see games and education packages for kids, plus the previous USE=offensive debate on the desktop backgrounds with scantily-clad woman. > Maybe it's not something you want to ask the users, but it would be more > interesting wrt devs, as would statistics on standard Equal Ops monitoring > (a legal requirement on employers in the UK, even if the person declines to > answer, which is ofc their right.) Go some good links on that? They might have good question wording we can borrow? -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer & Infra Guy E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 pgp72LKvomHb2.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
Ryan Hill wrote: > I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and children > are a bit too private. > ++ in general although I do think parenthood (if responsible) is as relevant as age. A 28 year old with a 5 year old kid has a lot to show a 35 year old doctoral student with no kids, even if it's not all technical. # of kids isn't relevant. Maybe it's not something you want to ask the users, but it would be more interesting wrt devs, as would statistics on standard Equal Ops monitoring (a legal requirement on employers in the UK, even if the person declines to answer, which is ofc their right.) -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
Marius Mauch wrote: > "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Basic demographics - a bunch of this should probably be optional but >> recommended >> - Gender (M, F, and the various other forms here) >> - Year of birth >> - # of children?? >> - How many years have you been using computers? >> >> Sociocultural information (again, optional stuff): >> - Location (country, and free-form city) >> - Level of education? >> - Job? (type coding this one is hard, and I'd prefer not to have it) >> - Income level > > Such questions usually are a reason to not complete a survey for me, and I > don't see how they are relevant to us (except for maybe location). I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and children are a bit too private. -- fonts,by design, by neglect gcc-porting, for a fact or just for effect wxwindows @ gentoo EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F9A4 0662 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
yea I didn't mean to send HTML but i agree on the "once or more" suggestion :) thanks, Fernando On Jan 15, 2008 12:05 AM, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted > below, on Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:38 +: > > > How often do you update your system & world packages? > >> every day > >> once a week > >> once a month > >> every six months > >> none of the above > > Make these time based ones "once or more", so there's no holes between > the ranges (altho they'll technically overlap). Otherwise, those of us > doing system upkeep 2-3 times a will have a hard time trying to > figure out what to mark. =8^) > > (BTW, agree with the no HTML thing already mentioned...) > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > -- > gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > >
[gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey
likewhoa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:38 +: > How often do you update your system & world packages? >> every day >> once a week >> once a month >> every six months >> none of the above Make these time based ones "once or more", so there's no holes between the ranges (altho they'll technically overlap). Otherwise, those of us doing system upkeep 2-3 times a will have a hard time trying to figure out what to mark. =8^) (BTW, agree with the no HTML thing already mentioned...) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
