On 04/08/05 14:37 -0500, Brian D. Harring wrote:
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Hell, I have yet to see what I would define as a proper solution for
config manamagent for N gentoo boxes. NFS solution possibly, but that
seems a bit hackish to me.
http://www.infrastructures.org/ is a good place to start.
Devdas
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
| eg. If I want to change the subnet mask or default router on 50 machines
| on my network, I should be able to do so via a simple interface and have
| the work done automatically.
That's why we added c3 and clusterssh to the
On Friday 05 August 2005 03:40, Brian D. Harring wrote:
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 05:31:43PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
It's not an overnight thing, glep19 (stable portage tree) addresses a
chunk of concerns when/if it's implemented, but I'm a bit more
interested in the the other tools
On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 10:59:23AM +0200, Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote:
On Friday 05 August 2005 03:40, Brian D. Harring wrote:
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 05:31:43PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
It's not an overnight thing, glep19 (stable portage tree) addresses a
chunk of concerns
Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote:
On Friday 05 August 2005 11:07, Brian Harring wrote:
Might be better stating what's needed...
A) people know what they're inadvertantly getting themselves into
http://dev.gentoo.org/~jaervosz/glep19.html
B) something might be bloody simple to somebody,
Interesting thread. I have used Gentoo in enterprise situations very
successfully, and I think the whole QA/live-tree argument is moot. In
an enterprise environment, you might have a backup/testing machine to
run your updates on first before they went live. You also wouldn't run
new packages
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 09:04 -0400, Eric Brown wrote:
Interesting thread. I have used Gentoo in enterprise situations very
successfully, and I think the whole QA/live-tree argument is moot. In
an enterprise environment, you might have a backup/testing machine to
run your updates on first
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 09:04 -0400, Eric Brown wrote:
Interesting thread. I have used Gentoo in enterprise situations very
successfully, and I think the whole QA/live-tree argument is moot. In
an enterprise environment, you might have a backup/testing machine to
run your updates on first
050804 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
-- long interesting account of life in the enterprise snipped --
I want to see Gentoo as an enterprise-capable distribution myself,
but I also understand that it is a long, hard road ahead of us
and there will still be things we cannot provide as a community
Long one kiddies... responses inlined, bit more interested in
discussion of what's required/desired then your definition of
enterprise sucks... (throws on the flamesuit)...
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 02:35:08PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 11:48 -0400, Eric Brown wrote:
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 14:37 -0500, Brian D. Harring wrote:
Elaborate on what you explicitly want out of portage please- the
domain concept (aside from being useful design wise) *should* allow
groupping of boxes (groupping of domains really) behind it, so you can
effectively have a set of
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 05:31:43PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
The only things I could see being needed out of portage itself is the
ability to control emerge commands remotely, such as forcing an update
of apache to $version to resolve a vulnerability.
The requirements of portage, or
On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 13:55 +0200, Sven Köhler wrote:
In my humble opinion, Gentoo is missing too many points to be an
enterprise Linux. We commit to a live tree. We don't have true QA,
testing or tinderbox. We don't have paid staff, alpha/beta/rc cycles.
We don't really have product
Chris Gianelloni posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:39:07 -0400:
Administrating a Gentoo system takes time - much time, but ...
This is something that I think most people forget. Running Gentoo makes
you a Linux Systems Administrator. Sure, you're only being
I think it's value is that gentoo is for the developers.
: )-- Riverfor [A chinese, a gentoo user, a programmer]
In my humble opinion, Gentoo is missing too many points to be an
enterprise Linux. We commit to a live tree. We don't have true QA,
testing or tinderbox. We don't have paid staff, alpha/beta/rc cycles.
We don't really have product lifecycles, since we don't generally
backport fixes to older
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